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You’ll enjoy this. I was banned for 2 months for the following post:

There is literally no proof that Biden raped or sexually assaulted Tara Reade, correct? So why is he being labelled guilty automatically by so many on this forum? The allegation is hardly cut and dried, stories have been changed, it’s problematic as hell. There’s a big difference between being disgusting towards victims and questioning an allegation.

‘User banned (2 months): Dismissing allegations of sexual assault, account in junior phase’

https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-nee ... 72/page-12

Two months. And I wonder whether everyone is still calling Biden a rapist... even on Era they’re not anymore! On the right side of history, etc. But in the thread I was in, the OP said:

I have seen people openly mock and bully those who feel uncomfortable voting for a rapist (Biden).

Here are some greatest hits from other people in the Biden threads, obviously there were no bans for this sort of thing:

The same I was thinking when someone in those other threads posted pictures of Biden touching little girls. Biden not only is a rapist, but also a strawberry floating pedophile. In a fair world, this man should be in jail the rest of his disgusting life. Instead, he might become the next president of the United States.

Biden is a depraved pedophile and nobody that can help cares at all.

Biden literally raped someone.

The group mind over there is insane.

Then last week I got permabanned for this post:

John Kowalski wrote: I'll just repeat myself, it's important that people at some point realize that this forum does not need posters who actively do not care for trans people and their concerns. The forum has to be ok with losing those people.

I think it's important to realise that there's clear blue water between 'not actively caring for trans people' and being transphobic. Not everyone on Era has to be an activist, nor does everyone have to contribute to every thread about trans issues to demonstrate loudly that they support the prevalent view. That kind of attitude leads to groupthink. Some people will just have other priorities, which is fair enough. Maybe their priority will be another issue they regard as very important, which you don't particularly campaign on.

‘User Banned (permanent): misrepresenting concerns of transphobia, previous severe ban for dismissive behaviour in sensitive topics‘

https://www.resetera.com/threads/speaki ... 539/page-3

These were my first ever bans of any kind on any forum, and certainly my first permaban! I felt weirdly annoyed, even though I know the place is totally bonkers at the moment. It must be lovely to see the world in such black and white terms, I suppose, and never ever learn when you get it wrong. There was a point a few weeks ago when there were the Justin Bieber allegations and something else that turned out to be bullshit in successive days, and even after one set of allegations went almost immediately south, they were all piling into the next one with their ‘RAAAAAAPIST!!!!!’ yelling without even a second thought.

Weird, I didn't enjoy that at all.

Eighthours wrote:previous severe ban for dismissive behaviour in sensitive topics‘

What was this?

I vastly prefer the moderation on Era to that of any other mainstream forum. What some people see as overbearing is actually very reassuring if you're part of a minority group, a survivor of sexual abuse, or anything else that would paint a target on your back if you were on a less strictly moderated platform.

Drumstick wrote::lol:

Eighthours wrote:previous severe ban for dismissive behaviour in sensitive topics‘

What was this?

The first example about Biden.

YIKES.

The Era approach is very much "Guilty until proven innocent" when it comes to any form of sexual allegation.

It's absolutely important to believe victims and fully investigate their allegations, that doesn't have to immediately equate to "The accused must therefore be guilty", but that seems to be the attitude Era has. Or else.

So to be clear, Eighthours got banned from resetera for misrepresenting concerns around transphobia, and that's why he's returned to a forum later that same day where he can't be banned because he's got a legacy staff position.

Winckle wrote:So to be clear, Eighthours got banned from resetera for misrepresenting concerns around transphobia, and that's why he's returned to a forum later that same day where he can't be banned because he's got a legacy staff position.

Also explains the "is Halle Berry going to get CANCELLED by the WOKE POLICE???" thread.

Must’ve been killing him to sit on that for five days before having his whinge.

Eighthours is back.

Karl_ wrote:I vastly prefer the moderation on Era to that of any other mainstream forum. What some people see as overbearing is actually very reassuring if you're part of a minority group, a survivor of sexual abuse, or anything else that would paint a target on your back if you were on a less strictly moderated platform.

Judging from the information in the thread, he hasn't attacked anyone. I can't see this as anything but overbearing.

Squinty wrote:

Karl_ wrote:I vastly prefer the moderation on Era to that of any other mainstream forum. What some people see as overbearing is actually very reassuring if you're part of a minority group, a survivor of sexual abuse, or anything else that would paint a target on your back if you were on a less strictly moderated platform.

Judging from the information in the thread, he hasn't attacked anyone. I can't see this as anything but overbearing.

My understanding (do correct me if you feel I'm misrepresenting!) is that the intention of the Era moderators is to create a platform in which the only sentiment expressed is explicitly in support of minority rights etc. I don't think every platform is obliged to host a debate on whether progressive values are good or not. If people haven't made up their mind on a particular issue they can simply not post about it there. It might not be your cup of tea, but surely you can see how an explicitly positive environment is encouraging if you're a minority who has to witness that kind of debate about your rights on almost every other website?

jiggles wrote:Must’ve been killing him to sit on that for five days before having his whinge.

Karl_ wrote:I vastly prefer the moderation on Era to that of any other mainstream forum. What some people see as overbearing is actually very reassuring if you're part of a minority group, a survivor of sexual abuse, or anything else that would paint a target on your back if you were on a less strictly moderated platform.

The only thing I’m not sure of is how the complete shutdown of shitty views pans out in the long run. Ideally, a forum would be self-moderating, with terrible, terrible people with their awful opinions being made to feel unwelcome by the members, rather than what is inevitably seen as a small group of elite users.

With the threat of swift banning for an... “alternative” view, people will just keep their real opinions to themselves and you never really know where anyone stands.

Eighthours was getting called out by the members for his posts. He didn’t need to be banned. He’d be happy still being on the forum he really wanted to be on and we wouldn’t be reading his posts here. Everybody wins.

My impression of Era and Gaf are that they are websites that take themselves far too seriously and are run by a bunch of power mad, jumped up muppets.

But I could be wrong.

Karl_ wrote:

Squinty wrote:

Karl_ wrote:I vastly prefer the moderation on Era to that of any other mainstream forum. What some people see as overbearing is actually very reassuring if you're part of a minority group, a survivor of sexual abuse, or anything else that would paint a target on your back if you were on a less strictly moderated platform.

Judging from the information in the thread, he hasn't attacked anyone. I can't see this as anything but overbearing.

My understanding (do correct me if you feel I'm misrepresenting!) is that the intention of the Era moderators is to create a platform in which the only sentiment expressed is explicitly in support of minority rights etc. I don't think every platform is obliged to host a debate on whether progressive values are good or not. If people haven't made up their mind on a particular issue they can simply not post about it there. It might not be your cup of tea, but surely you can see how an explicitly positive environment is encouraging if you're a minority who has to witness that kind of debate about your rights on almost every other website?

I prefer forums where there are different opinions and people can debate/argue.

But you're right that no platform has to be set up that way. If Resetera want to have a zero tolerance approach, then that's up to them, there are plenty of other pledges people can go.

Karl_ wrote:

Squinty wrote:

Karl_ wrote:I vastly prefer the moderation on Era to that of any other mainstream forum. What some people see as overbearing is actually very reassuring if you're part of a minority group, a survivor of sexual abuse, or anything else that would paint a target on your back if you were on a less strictly moderated platform.

Judging from the information in the thread, he hasn't attacked anyone. I can't see this as anything but overbearing.

My understanding (do correct me if you feel I'm misrepresenting!) is that the intention of the Era moderators is to create a platform in which the only sentiment expressed is explicitly in support of minority rights etc. I don't think every platform is obliged to host a debate on whether progressive values are good or not. If people haven't made up their mind on a particular issue they can simply not post about it there. It might not be your cup of tea, but surely you can see how an explicitly positive environment is encouraging if you're a minority who has to witness that kind of debate about your rights on almost every other website?

Yeah, you're right about the intent of it. It does concern me about how heavy handed they can be with slightly diffferent opinions though. I don't see anything transphobic or personally damaging in that post. It's not an attack or something they should feel threatened by.

Squinty wrote:

Karl_ wrote:

Squinty wrote:

Karl_ wrote:I vastly prefer the moderation on Era to that of any other mainstream forum. What some people see as overbearing is actually very reassuring if you're part of a minority group, a survivor of sexual abuse, or anything else that would paint a target on your back if you were on a less strictly moderated platform.

Judging from the information in the thread, he hasn't attacked anyone. I can't see this as anything but overbearing.

My understanding (do correct me if you feel I'm misrepresenting!) is that the intention of the Era moderators is to create a platform in which the only sentiment expressed is explicitly in support of minority rights etc. I don't think every platform is obliged to host a debate on whether progressive values are good or not. If people haven't made up their mind on a particular issue they can simply not post about it there. It might not be your cup of tea, but surely you can see how an explicitly positive environment is encouraging if you're a minority who has to witness that kind of debate about your rights on almost every other website?

Yeah, you're right about the intent of it. It does concern me about how heavy handed they can be with slightly diffferent opinions though. I don't see anything transphobic or personally damaging in that post. It's not an attack or something they should feel threatened by.

Thing is the post that Eighthours got Permabanned for didn't even seem to be trying to start a debate, express a contrary opinion, or be dismissive of the issue.

It seemed to be a post saying that "Just because someone isn't going into every trans rights thread and proudly proclaiming their support doesn't mean they're transphobic, they may simply be focused on more immediate/personal issues that are affecting them". And I don't particularly see a problem with that when it's made in response to a post that's basically saying if people aren't actively campaigning for that cause then they don't deserve a place on the forum.

jiggles wrote:Eighthours was getting called out by the members for his posts. He didn’t need to be banned. He’d be happy still being on the forum he really wanted to be on and we wouldn’t be reading his posts here. Everybody wins.

Sadly for your theory, the 2 events are unrelated. I only lurked there in the main, hence 'account in junior phase' despite being a member from near the start of Era! Rllmuk has been my main forum for years.

How are you doing, anyway? Nice to see you're still around.