Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:11 pm
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Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:24 pm
One thing i have noticed about resetera is the sheer hypocrisy of much of the userbase.
Take their threads about JK Rowling for example, they accuse her of being hateful, yet the thread itself contains a level of hatred and nastiness i've not seen on the internet in quite some time.
Take their threads about JK Rowling for example, they accuse her of being hateful, yet the thread itself contains a level of hatred and nastiness i've not seen on the internet in quite some time.
Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:26 pm
Vermilion wrote:One thing i have noticed about resetera is the sheer hypocrisy of much of the userbase.
Take their threads about JK Rowling for example, they accuse her of being hateful, yet the thread itself contains a level of hatred and nastiness i've not seen on the internet in quite some time.
There's a difference between hating a transphobe and being transphobic.
Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:29 pm
Yeah. It's OK to be mean about bigots.
Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:29 pm
Qikz wrote:Vermilion wrote:One thing i have noticed about resetera is the sheer hypocrisy of much of the userbase.
Take their threads about JK Rowling for example, they accuse her of being hateful, yet the thread itself contains a level of hatred and nastiness i've not seen on the internet in quite some time.
There's a difference between hating a transphobe and being transphobic.
Hate is still hate whatever form it takes, just because you may agree with the reason behind said hate, doesn't mean it's acceptable behaviour.
Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:30 pm
Yeah I'd say we don't really need to preserve the integrity and dignity of our precious national iconic billionaire transphobic weirdly quasi bigoted yet nonetheless talented children's fiction authors, but that's me.
Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:31 pm
Hahaha! "Please don't be mean to Nazis, hate is hate!" Good grief...
Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:37 pm
Vermilion wrote:Qikz wrote:Vermilion wrote:One thing i have noticed about resetera is the sheer hypocrisy of much of the userbase.
Take their threads about JK Rowling for example, they accuse her of being hateful, yet the thread itself contains a level of hatred and nastiness i've not seen on the internet in quite some time.
There's a difference between hating a transphobe and being transphobic.
Hate is still hate whatever form it takes, just because you may agree with the reason behind said hate, doesn't mean it's acceptable behaviour.
Vermilion wrote:God I hate James Corden!
Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:41 pm
Moggy wrote:Vermilion wrote:Qikz wrote:Vermilion wrote:One thing i have noticed about resetera is the sheer hypocrisy of much of the userbase.
Take their threads about JK Rowling for example, they accuse her of being hateful, yet the thread itself contains a level of hatred and nastiness i've not seen on the internet in quite some time.
There's a difference between hating a transphobe and being transphobic.
Hate is still hate whatever form it takes, just because you may agree with the reason behind said hate, doesn't mean it's acceptable behaviour.Vermilion wrote:God I hate James Corden!
Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:42 pm
*sigh*
Yes, point taken, i've clearly got foot in mouth disease again, so please forget what i said.
Yes, point taken, i've clearly got foot in mouth disease again, so please forget what i said.
Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:44 pm
Moggy wrote:Vermilion wrote:Qikz wrote:Vermilion wrote:One thing i have noticed about resetera is the sheer hypocrisy of much of the userbase.
Take their threads about JK Rowling for example, they accuse her of being hateful, yet the thread itself contains a level of hatred and nastiness i've not seen on the internet in quite some time.
There's a difference between hating a transphobe and being transphobic.
Hate is still hate whatever form it takes, just because you may agree with the reason behind said hate, doesn't mean it's acceptable behaviour.Vermilion wrote:God I hate James Corden!
God I hate James Corden as well.
Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:45 pm
Squinty wrote:Moggy wrote:Vermilion wrote:Qikz wrote:Vermilion wrote:One thing i have noticed about resetera is the sheer hypocrisy of much of the userbase.
Take their threads about JK Rowling for example, they accuse her of being hateful, yet the thread itself contains a level of hatred and nastiness i've not seen on the internet in quite some time.
There's a difference between hating a transphobe and being transphobic.
Hate is still hate whatever form it takes, just because you may agree with the reason behind said hate, doesn't mean it's acceptable behaviour.Vermilion wrote:God I hate James Corden!
God I hate James Corden as well.
Hate is still hate whatever form it takes, just because you may agree with the reason behind said hate, doesn't mean it's acceptable behaviour.
Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:49 pm
Moggy wrote:Squinty wrote:Moggy wrote:Vermilion wrote:Qikz wrote:Vermilion wrote:One thing i have noticed about resetera is the sheer hypocrisy of much of the userbase.
Take their threads about JK Rowling for example, they accuse her of being hateful, yet the thread itself contains a level of hatred and nastiness i've not seen on the internet in quite some time.
There's a difference between hating a transphobe and being transphobic.
Hate is still hate whatever form it takes, just because you may agree with the reason behind said hate, doesn't mean it's acceptable behaviour.Vermilion wrote:God I hate James Corden!
God I hate James Corden as well.
Hate is still hate whatever form it takes, just because you may agree with the reason behind said hate, doesn't mean it's acceptable behaviour.
It does when James Corden is the focus of the hate. He deserves it, the knob
Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:45 pm
OK, in retrospect my last post was a bit dismissive and I feel a bit bad about that so I'm gonna try to explain what I mean.
I'm not trying to wind you up Vermi, for real. I don't want you to feel bad. I know what you're getting at, people should try to be nice even if they're annoyed, try to be the better person, and all that, right? In "normal" circumstances, like if you've had a disagreement with a mate, that's absolutely true.
But imagine you're sat down with someone who's in an ethnic minority and they're talking to you about how angry they are with people who've said racist abuse to them. Or they're Jewish and they're angry with neo-Nazis and all the awful antisemitic conspiracies that go around. They're likely going to have some stern or maybe even vicious words, but that's justifiable anger. I think for sure you'd get that and you'd sympathise with them, if that's the conversation you were having.
Now you might think at first glance, OK, but JK Rowling is just a conservative old lady, does she deserve it? But it's really easy to miss the impact she's had if you aren't trans yourself (or keeping up with the community). Her words have put so much fear and upset and anger into trans people nationwide. Her views are hugely damaging and have really propagated a bigoted attitude - trans people feel more and more unsafe in Britain every day and it's because of a perceived swell of anti-trans rhetoric that it's thought she is now spearheading.
So IMO she deserves a backlash against those opinions she's chosen to put forward: people should be telling her and other transphobes, look, your views are awful, you're a bully, this isn't acceptable. And if that gets a bit sweary I'm not going to blame anyone for that. Do you get where I'm coming from at least?
I'm not trying to wind you up Vermi, for real. I don't want you to feel bad. I know what you're getting at, people should try to be nice even if they're annoyed, try to be the better person, and all that, right? In "normal" circumstances, like if you've had a disagreement with a mate, that's absolutely true.
But imagine you're sat down with someone who's in an ethnic minority and they're talking to you about how angry they are with people who've said racist abuse to them. Or they're Jewish and they're angry with neo-Nazis and all the awful antisemitic conspiracies that go around. They're likely going to have some stern or maybe even vicious words, but that's justifiable anger. I think for sure you'd get that and you'd sympathise with them, if that's the conversation you were having.
Now you might think at first glance, OK, but JK Rowling is just a conservative old lady, does she deserve it? But it's really easy to miss the impact she's had if you aren't trans yourself (or keeping up with the community). Her words have put so much fear and upset and anger into trans people nationwide. Her views are hugely damaging and have really propagated a bigoted attitude - trans people feel more and more unsafe in Britain every day and it's because of a perceived swell of anti-trans rhetoric that it's thought she is now spearheading.
So IMO she deserves a backlash against those opinions she's chosen to put forward: people should be telling her and other transphobes, look, your views are awful, you're a bully, this isn't acceptable. And if that gets a bit sweary I'm not going to blame anyone for that. Do you get where I'm coming from at least?
Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:53 pm
Karl_ wrote:Do you get where I'm coming from at least?
Yes, i get where you're coming from, and i understand completely.
I'm also the first to admit that i have an awful habit of posting stuff without properly thinking it through.
Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:55 pm
Vermilion wrote:Karl_ wrote:Do you get where I'm coming from at least?
Yes, i get where you're coming from, and i understand completely.
I'm also the first to admit that i have an awful habit of posting stuff without properly thinking it through.
Nah it's cool, I feel bad you got piled on.
I think when there are people who find that kind of thing unpleasant to read - I haven't seen the thread but it probably is objectively pretty vicious, even if I think that's justified! - it's because they are nice people in themselves. You are probably a polite person who doesn't get angry easily. That's actually a good thing, so don't worry about it.
Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:44 pm
Vermilion wrote:Karl_ wrote:Do you get where I'm coming from at least?
Yes, i get where you're coming from, and i understand completely.
I'm also the first to admit that i have an awful habit of posting stuff without properly thinking it through.
You were justified in the Corden hate. He doesn't deserve to exist.
Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:14 pm
Vermilion wrote:One thing i have noticed about resetera is the sheer hypocrisy of much of the userbase.
Take their threads about JK Rowling for example, they accuse her of being hateful, yet the thread itself contains a level of hatred and nastiness i've not seen on the internet in quite some time.
Being hateful towards bigots is the correct response.
Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:31 am
My grandmother always told me that hate is such a strong word, but it's totally fine to loathe something.
Even if you really mean you hate them, it's that simple. To be fair, that's pretty wise when it comes to staying out of trouble, and she's Catholic
Even if you really mean you hate them, it's that simple. To be fair, that's pretty wise when it comes to staying out of trouble, and she's Catholic
Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:47 am
GRcade, particularly when it moved from GamesRadar, gradually developed further away from strict moderation and towards the very light touch, almost self-regulated community we enjoy today. When even was the last time we had a case of mulled wine?! They used to be quite frequent but we're probably talking 5+ years ago now, if not longer.
I struggle to understand how anyone could appreciate the absurd, heavy-handed approach they seem to take over on ResetEra. My view is almost certainly warped as I don't read there myself, I just see the 'highlights' from this thread, but it seems hard to imagine people can really enjoy the experience of posting on the board.
I struggle to understand how anyone could appreciate the absurd, heavy-handed approach they seem to take over on ResetEra. My view is almost certainly warped as I don't read there myself, I just see the 'highlights' from this thread, but it seems hard to imagine people can really enjoy the experience of posting on the board.