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mic wrote:To be fair, Nick, I can see how you and your friends might have been confused, or even misled by the proliferation of the n-word amongst African Americans by black entertainers, which begs the argument that it’s okay if used either as a term of endearment amongst friends or when singing along to rap music (regardless of the user’s ethnicity), such as here.

We used to use it quite a bit after watching this like "N*GG*R WHHHHAAAAATTTT!!!!"



I'm sure the casual use of it in music encourages people to use it as a term of endearment, but I don't think it gives anyone an excuse to trivialise it when it's use in the manner the fine gentleman in the video did.

Also, apparently the Spanish police won't be prosecuting.

mic wrote:

Moggy wrote:You might not have meant it that way, but that’s a terrible post. Black people were duped into using the word because of white and Jewish executives? Jesus....

Basically, yes. Once hip hop really took off it was supplanted with gangsta rap by the above mentioned execs, who actively encouraged use of the n-word until it became ubiquitous. Is my usage of ‘duped’ terrible? By that point there weren’t too many African Americans in the ghetto conscious enough to stand up to the tide of negative influences, including crack cocaine - the romanticization of which was also pushed by those execs.

It’s terrible because your post reads as a white man policing the use of the n word, that black people are too stupid to understand the meaning of the words and that it’s the fault of the Jews.

keep asking questions!

I knew the Jews would be behind this.

Moggy wrote:

mic wrote:

Moggy wrote:You might not have meant it that way, but that’s a terrible post. Black people were duped into using the word because of white and Jewish executives? Jesus....

Basically, yes. Once hip hop really took off it was supplanted with gangsta rap by the above mentioned execs, who actively encouraged use of the n-word until it became ubiquitous. Is my usage of ‘duped’ terrible? By that point there weren’t too many African Americans in the ghetto conscious enough to stand up to the tide of negative influences, including crack cocaine - the romanticization of which was also pushed by those execs.

It’s terrible because your post reads as a white man policing the use of the n word, that black people are too stupid to understand the meaning of the words and that it’s the fault of the Jews.

I don't think mic is white, based on what i remember of past posts, but "the jews did this" is always a bad argument.

Knoyleo wrote:

Moggy wrote:

mic wrote:

Moggy wrote:You might not have meant it that way, but that’s a terrible post. Black people were duped into using the word because of white and Jewish executives? Jesus....

Basically, yes. Once hip hop really took off it was supplanted with gangsta rap by the above mentioned execs, who actively encouraged use of the n-word until it became ubiquitous. Is my usage of ‘duped’ terrible? By that point there weren’t too many African Americans in the ghetto conscious enough to stand up to the tide of negative influences, including crack cocaine - the romanticization of which was also pushed by those execs.

It’s terrible because your post reads as a white man policing the use of the n word, that black people are too stupid to understand the meaning of the words and that it’s the fault of the Jews.

I don't think mic is white, based on what i remember of past posts, but "the jews did this" is always a bad argument.

I’ve no idea if he is white or not, but the post reads like a disapproving white guy. I should have said “reads like a white man” rather than “as a white man”.

I haven't watched the video and I can't right now, but I have a pretty good idea of the content having read so much about it and it will really strawberry floating piss me off if this guy doesn't get some sort of official charge brought against him.

What kind of message will it send to the other thousands (millions?) of horrible racist strawberry floating twats if he gets off after such a public outing?

@ Moggy - sorry if it came across that way, but stupidity is hardly a factor when you consider the insidious nature of the ghetto, resulting from institutional practices such as redlining, drug laws, racial profiling by police and the school-to-prison pipeline.

Also, did you check out the link? How can that not be a double-standard? Genuine question - is there another example of an ethnicity calling each other derogatory, racially-charged names affectionately? Do gay/ transgendered people do it?

yes gay people do it and it doesnt cause much of an issue that im aware of but god forbid black people call each other things and white people cant!

good video on this when the last kerfuffle happened

mic wrote:@ Moggy - sorry if it came across that way, but stupidity is hardly a factor when you consider the insidious nature of the ghetto, resulting from institutional practices such as redlining, drug laws, racial profiling by police and the school-to-prison pipeline.

Also, did you check out the link? How can that not be a double-standard? Genuine question - is there another example of an ethnicity calling each other derogatory, racially-charged names affectionately? Do gay/ transgendered people do it?

Well not all black people use the word. Some gay people will use slurs amongst themselves.

It’s not really a double standard to use a word amongst your ethnic/sexual group but not like others. It’s like saying “I’m an ugly banana split” versus somebody coming up to you and saying “your an ugly banana split. A friend might be able to call you an ugly banana split, especially if he’s also an ugly banana split.

watch the video Moggy

Knoyleo wrote:...but "the jews did this" is always a bad argument.

It’s funny how I said “white AND Jewish executives”, as in not black, and it’s inmediately taken as anti-Semitic. Would it have been better if I’d just said white?

In retrospect, I do however take on board Moggy’s point about how the post came across, although my intention was to portray infantilization rather than stupidity

mic wrote:

Knoyleo wrote:...but "the jews did this" is always a bad argument.

It’s funny how I said “white AND Jewish executives”, as in not black, and it’s inmediately taken as anti-Semitic. Would it have been better if I’d just said white?

Yes.

I'm pretty sure the range of ethnicities is broader than white, black, and Jewish, as well.

Just caught up ove the last few pages. That Ryan Air video

I can't watch it. It'll make me too angry. I was in Oxford with my girlfriend last weekend and we ended up going into a Co-Op. She walked down a isle and some old guy kept getting in her way he didn't say anything but he stood in front of her when she moved he stepped back in-front of her. I shot the guy a dirty look and he walked off, but I pretty sure he was doing it because she's not white and I'm not really sure what he would have done if I wasn't there.

Edit - Opps WC

Knoyleo wrote:

mic wrote:

Knoyleo wrote:...but "the jews did this" is always a bad argument.

It’s funny how I said “white AND Jewish executives”, as in not black, and it’s inmediately taken as anti-Semitic. Would it have been better if I’d just said white?

Yes.

I'm pretty sure the range of ethnicities is broader than white, black, and Jewish, as well.

Yes, but the execs WERE exclusively white and Jewish!