Rage Held Back By Xbox 360's Limits

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Drunken_Master wrote:http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/54780

id: Rage Not Cut Because of Xbox 360 Limits
by Nick Breckon Sep 16, 2008 10:40pm CST tags: Rage
The limitations of the DVD medium and Xbox 360 hardware have not forced id to cut content from all versions of Rage (PC, PS3, 360), the studio has told Shacknews.

Following a report that id had removed "significant content" from all versions of the shooter so the game would fit onto two Xbox 360 DVDs, id Software's Tim Willits denied that the Xbox 360 version required the studio to sacrifice its vision for the game.

"There was NO CONTENT removed from RAGE because of the 360--NONE AT ALL," wrote Willits. "We feel the 360 is a great platform and will provide a fantastic Rage experience."

id has previously stated that the Xbox 360 version of Rage will look worse than its PC and PS3 counterparts due to the limitations of the DVD medium. The studio had hoped to circumvent this by spreading the 360 release across three DVDs, though Microsoft's royalty rates apparently make anything beyond two discs financially impracticable.

Willits' unedited response follows:

During my talk today I mentioned that we originally wanted to have around 5 or 6 smaller wasteland environments but later decided instead to have 2 larger wastelands. Mostly because we were going to be shipping on two DVDs for the 360 and felt that it would play better with one large wasteland on each disc so there would be no loading between wastelands. Not loading levels while you drive around is a much better decision regardless of platform.

There was NO CONTENT removed from RAGE because of the 360--NONE AT ALL. Moving from multiple wastelands into fewer but larger wastelands was a far better decision and is actually giving us more gameplay in the game.

We feel the 360 is a great platform and will provide a fantastic Rage experience.

So.."we haven't cut content, we've just decided to reduce the amount of environments that were going to be in the game because of the 360 media storage limitations"

:lol:

Why can't they just admit that the 360 version has forced them to cut content that would otherwise still be in the game.

I think the 'cut' environments have actually been merged into one big environment, so they take up less space on the DVD, but the console would have to stream off the disc like GTAIV.

I think. I'm very technologically noobish.

Peter Crisp wrote:
FirstSecond wrote:Can someone explain how the PC has limitless storage? if the game is shipping on disc on the PC then surely that also is going to be DVD? is it to do with the cost of releasing multiple discs on consoles or something? If so then I just answered my own question.

I think the fact that games are fully installed on the PC means that even if a game used 12 disks it would not present that much of a problem. I had many PC games that were on 5 or more disks and a console game would never get away with that.

PC Supremacy.

Everyone would probably be laughing if this was the other way round. Not sure why people on here have such a loyalty to the 360 considering most people on here are multi format gamers.

Beans wrote:Everyone would probably be laughing if this was the other way round. Not sure why people on here have such a loyalty to the 360 considering most people on here are multi format gamers.

It's outrageous

Beans wrote:Not sure why people on here have such a loyalty to the 360 considering most people on here are multi format gamers.

There is no "loyalty" to 360, just laughter at desperate PS3 fanboyism.

Peter Crisp wrote:
FirstSecond wrote:Can someone explain how the PC has limitless storage? if the game is shipping on disc on the PC then surely that also is going to be DVD? is it to do with the cost of releasing multiple discs on consoles or something? If so then I just answered my own question.

I think the fact that games are fully installed on the PC means that even if a game used 12 disks it would not present that much of a problem. I had many PC games that were on 5 or more disks and a console game would never get away with that.

UT2004 was on 8 disks, well worth the long install though. I put countless hours into it.

PC Gaming 1 - 360 0.

From the article Drunken_Master posted:

id has previously stated that the Xbox 360 version of Rage will look worse than its PC and PS3 counterparts due to the limitations of the DVD medium. The studio had hoped to circumvent this by spreading the 360 release across three DVDs, though Microsoft's royalty rates apparently make anything beyond two discs financially impracticable.

I find this suprising, I'd just assumed the royalty rates would of been by game rather each individual disc. If more games do start requiring more space I hope Microsoft sort out the royalty rates as it would be a shame if developers start having to hold back because of this.

StayingDead wrote:
Peter Crisp wrote:
FirstSecond wrote:Can someone explain how the PC has limitless storage? if the game is shipping on disc on the PC then surely that also is going to be DVD? is it to do with the cost of releasing multiple discs on consoles or something? If so then I just answered my own question.

I think the fact that games are fully installed on the PC means that even if a game used 12 disks it would not present that much of a problem. I had many PC games that were on 5 or more disks and a console game would never get away with that.

UT2004 was on 8 disks, well worth the long install though. I put countless hours into it.

PC Gaming 1 - 360 0.

8 discs?!?!?! jesus christ, I take it they were CD Roms and not DVD?

Eighthours wrote:
Beans wrote:Not sure why people on here have such a loyalty to the 360 considering most people on here are multi format gamers.

There is no "loyalty" to 360, just laughter at desperate PS3 fanboyism.

I've hardly seen any PS3 fanboyism on here though. :roll:

Really?

I thought this place was called PS3cade

Stu wrote:Really?

I thought this place was called PS3cade

For a moderator your actually a bit of an arse huh. Oh well. I'm not going to argue.

Whoa!!!

Someone doesn't seem too happy today.

It's all a joke mate. I'm not trying to wind anyone up. I didn't realise people took me so seriously.

I think this is inevitable the 360 is an older console now - 3 years already! As the very newest games come out next year they will push a console to its limit and perhaps want to go beyond.

For me it is in a way good news as there is proof that a Next Gen can still make improvements in size, AI and online interactivity. Owning both a PS3 and 360 its clear that the PS3 is capable of the better looking games. The 360 has more of them though, in fact it is important enough for this company to change their game to sell to the widest audience.

They do need a larger HD and Disc capacity next time.

Stu wrote:Whoa!!!

Someone doesn't seem too happy today.

It's all a joke mate. I'm not trying to wind anyone up. I didn't realise people took me so seriously.

No worries. Just stressed at work. Just don't like fanboyism. One of the reasons I like this place is it is multi format.

I'm sorry if my joke didn't come across as a joke.

Sometimes I think something in my head may seem funny, but I soon realise later on that it isn't.

Beans wrote:
Eighthours wrote:
Beans wrote:Not sure why people on here have such a loyalty to the 360 considering most people on here are multi format gamers.

There is no "loyalty" to 360, just laughter at desperate PS3 fanboyism.

I've hardly seen any PS3 fanboyism on here though.

You have met our resident PS3 fanboy consolegaming, yes?

Since his first words (in the third post of this thread, don't forget) were, "It is a refreshing change to see a negative 360 article for once," and he just carried on from there, it's hardly a surprise to see forumites arguing with him. As I said above: that's not "loyalty" to 360, it's laughter at desperate PS3 fanboyism.

StayingDead wrote:
Peter Crisp wrote:
FirstSecond wrote:Can someone explain how the PC has limitless storage? if the game is shipping on disc on the PC then surely that also is going to be DVD? is it to do with the cost of releasing multiple discs on consoles or something? If so then I just answered my own question.

I think the fact that games are fully installed on the PC means that even if a game used 12 disks it would not present that much of a problem. I had many PC games that were on 5 or more disks and a console game would never get away with that.

UT2004 was on 8 disks, well worth the long install though. I put countless hours into it.

PC Gaming 1 - 360 0.

Speak for yourself, I had the DVD version! :lol:

StayingDead wrote:UT2004 was on 8 disks, well worth the long install though.

Strange. My copy consists of one DVD...

Eighthours wrote:
Beans wrote:
Eighthours wrote:
Beans wrote:Not sure why people on here have such a loyalty to the 360 considering most people on here are multi format gamers.

There is no "loyalty" to 360, just laughter at desperate PS3 fanboyism.

I've hardly seen any PS3 fanboyism on here though.

You have met our resident PS3 fanboy consolegaming, yes?

Since his first words (in the third post of this thread, don't forget) were, "It is a refreshing change to see a negative 360 article for once," and he just carried on from there, it's hardly a surprise to see forumites arguing with him. As I said above: that's not "loyalty" to 360, it's laughter at desperate PS3 fanboyism.

At least I am man enough to admit to be a sony fanboy, you guys carry on as if your views are completely free of bias!

Rage Held Back By Xbox 360's Limits

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