Redfall (XSX|S/PC/Cloud/Game Pass). Final Update inc Offline mode out now.

Maybe after Tears of the Kingdom :lol:

Jenuall wrote:Time for GRPreyde 2: The Re-Prey

Awww yiss son.
Everyone has to do full on alien run.

Prey is 4K 60 on Series X.

I played a little of this today, is it great? No. Am I enjoying it enough to carry on? Yes.

Cumberdanes wrote:I played a little of this today, is it great? No. Am I enjoying it enough to carry on? Yes.

we should get to it in co-op. IF we ever finish Far Cry 5 or Dead Island Riptide :lol:

LewisD wrote:
Jenuall wrote:Time for GRPreyde 2: The Re-Prey

Awww yiss son.
Everyone has to do full on alien run.

Typhon power run is a hell of a ride to be fair, well worth a go

Just encountered a really annoying bug where I could no longer crouch, not ideal when I’m playing the more sneak guy.

Rare and The Coalition are now helping Arkane Austin on the 60fps patch and other things according to Philly Spence.

Shame there was no possible way for them to identify these kinds of problems before launch!

Jenuall wrote:Shame there was no possible way for them to identify these kinds of problems before launch!

They ran mock reviews and the final scores are 20 times behind what they predicted....

lol!

Played this again today. And uninstalled. 30 FPS isn't the issue. It's that it's a flat game without any personality. From Deathloop's confident swagger to this.

Godzilla wrote:Played this again today. And uninstalled. 30 FPS isn't the issue. It's that it's a flat game without any personality. From Deathloop's confident swagger to this.

This was made by a different team than Deathloop.

Despite missing its potential, I have to admit that I still had some fun. Pair up with a friend of three and expect a night of silly entertainment. Even with the item gating, the mission areas were still fun to explore. It's certainly worth a try but ultimately, despite some fun, I came away from Redfall disappointed. Previous Arkane games have easily made their way into my top ten games of their respective release years so my expectations were high. Alas, Redfall is the worst game Arkane has made to date. Going forward I'd like to see them get back to the basics. Drop the multiplayer features, throw away the loot and focus on what Arkane does best.

https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundr ... cal-issues

Made it to the first major boss and feel I’ve reached the limits of what can be done solo without perhaps grinding. I just can’t kill him.

And uninstalled, I don't have any interest in what this is trying to give me.

I don't even think the game knows what it wants to be, but whatever it is just isn't appealing

Jenuall wrote:And uninstalled, I don't have any interest in what this is trying to give me.

I don't even think the game knows what it wants to be, but whatever it is just isn't appealing

How would you describe it? Not delivering on immersive sim?

I might try and give it one more go before completely writing it off but I can see I'll be moving it to the external HDD for now (just incase patches down the line make it a better game), how they've made a game about hunting vampires dull I don't know!

OrangeRKN wrote:
Jenuall wrote:And uninstalled, I don't have any interest in what this is trying to give me.

I don't even think the game knows what it wants to be, but whatever it is just isn't appealing

How would you describe it? Not delivering on immersive sim?

It's definitely the least "immersive sim" game that Arkane have ever produced, based on my ~5 hours experience. It's basically a straight shooter with powers and some light touch nods toward "playing your way" - not too dissimilar to a Far Cry scenario basically.

So many aspects of the design don't mesh well together. Endless, worthless loot means there is no real reward for achieving things - the economy of the game is just awful (coming from the team that gave us the superb resource scarcity vs recycling setup of Prey as well! :fp:

), the space being so open means you can often just ignore most of the locations or encounters that might have made a journey interesting - an initial "oh look a house that I could find a way into, maybe I can fight my way in, or use a lockpick on a back door, or find an open window to climb through!" rapidly loses appeal when there's nothing interesting to find in there from either a narrative or resource perspective and when the encounters you have with enemies there are not interesting, and so because the world is open you just stop bothering to visit anywhere...

The arsenal at your disposal being almost entirely just "things to point at people and go boom" means there's little to no experimentation with resources and finding clever ways to use things - even the powers that I've had have been very dull and lacking in interesting consequences for gameplay in comparison to what we had in Dishonored/Prey. Again - Prey was a masterclass in "tools not weapons" - everything in the game had multiple uses, could be utilised to achieve unexpected results or manipulate the world/enemies in clever ways and made the player feel clever and rewarded for doing so... there is absolutely nothing here that even approaches that idea.

It's also a profoundly dull/ugly looking game in comparison to what Arkane have given us before. Dishonored and Prey were both never technical showcases but artistically had so much going for them and were to their core interesting and attractive things to look at and worlds to explore - this is just "modern US rural town with military guys and crap vampires everywhere" there's no art or majesty to anything!

The fact that it's also a technical mess is just the cherry on the top of this total lack of sundae! Dishonored 2 was a mess at launch, running at wildly fluctuating framerates even on good PCs and having some odd visual blemishes, but it was so easy to overlook because the gameplay, world design, creativity etc. were all so on point. Here it all just highlights how lacking those aspects are. :cry:

I might give it another shot if they sort out some technical stuff, I owe Arkane that much - and it may well be more enjoyable with a different character/with friends - but I'm in no rush to do so - and that fact, that there is a new Arkane game out that after 1 day I have basically given up on, is just a tragedy.

Could you not have just said 'What if Borderlands but Vampires?'

Never played Borderlands, but that just confirms I was right to avoid!

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