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PostRe: Reminder: if you're buying from amazon, you're a strawberry floating scab
by Moggy » Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:11 pm

Oblomov Boblomov wrote:
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Oblomov Boblomov wrote:
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Oblomov Boblomov wrote:Solidarity with my warehouse brothers. I worked in the same role but for John Lewis, must have been around 7-8 years ago now. Worst period of employment in my life. Flashbacks when I watched that undercover Amazon documentary a while back.


I thought John Lewis was all swanky and stuff. I thought they'd treat you well.

Monotonous, exhausting labour for hideously low pay, surrounded by awful people (I know I called them my brothers earlier, but the people I worked alongside were mostly a horrible bunch of racist, homophobic, criminal all-round nasties).


But what were their Bradford scores?

It was 90% agency staff (myself included) who didn't get paid if they were sick. Funnily enough, absence was pretty much unheard of.

Several people got sacked for trying to steal items, though. There were detectors everywhere and we would be searched around 3-4 times a shift, but still every other week someone would get pinched for trying to smuggle perfume out :fp:.


It’s not stealing if you are taking things from work. It’s called a perk of the job.

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PostRe: Reminder: if you're buying from amazon, you're a strawberry floating scab
by Dual » Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:59 pm

Oblomov Boblomov wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Oblomov Boblomov wrote:
Lex-Man wrote:
Oblomov Boblomov wrote:Solidarity with my warehouse brothers. I worked in the same role but for John Lewis, must have been around 7-8 years ago now. Worst period of employment in my life. Flashbacks when I watched that undercover Amazon documentary a while back.


I thought John Lewis was all swanky and stuff. I thought they'd treat you well.

Monotonous, exhausting labour for hideously low pay, surrounded by awful people (I know I called them my brothers earlier, but the people I worked alongside were mostly a horrible bunch of racist, homophobic, criminal all-round nasties).


But what were their Bradford scores?

It was 90% agency staff (myself included) who didn't get paid if they were sick. Funnily enough, absence was pretty much unheard of.

Several people got sacked for trying to steal items, though. There were detectors everywhere and we would be searched around 3-4 times a shift, but still every other week someone would get pinched for trying to smuggle perfume out :fp:.


Did you work at the Redditch warehouse?

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PostRe: Reminder: if you're buying from amazon, you're a strawberry floating scab
by Green Gecko » Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:16 pm

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Jenuall wrote:@Karl - Yes I think people should boycott Amazon during industrial action - apologies if that wasn't clear.

To be very clear I think that people should boycott Amazon all the time!

No probs, we cool. That was the point I wanted to clear up, I'm happy with wider discussions about the industry.

I'm trying to get more stuff locally, second-hand, or direct from the manufacturer, therefore cutting out supermarkets and online mega-platforms. Bloody difficult sometimes though. Still mostly get groceries in Tesco, and you do still have to resort to Amazon sometimes to get obscure books and the like.

Honestly for that I would suggest eBay, because there is no warehouse and at least then it is probably supporting a business directly. Even stuff from China, they seem to generate 100s of eBay accounts and basically just ship the same stuff from factory. It's exploitative labour in terms of importing cheap labour here but with so much product made/printed in China anyway it is arguably better to get it from there instead of fuelling the margin in importers. I've been tempted to use Amazon's "fulfilled by Amazon" warehouse/docking service, but then I realised 90% of my customers there would be banana splits that want it yesterday, something that just isn't viable for my business model. It's good that Amazon open their platform to Independent business owners in this way but the warehouse and low pay conditions are not favourable.

But eBay is great for finding very specific things, the search is much more effective and granular and while it can be hard to find a specific item that's listed in so many myriad of different ways and then finally pick a seller, again that seller is actually a business and not 90% of the time just Amazon themselves who profit.

Also you're not longer forced to use PayPal because they will process a debit card payment via PayPal infrastructure but without using your PayPal account, so that monopoly is lessened slightly.

Logistics industry doesn't seem to be mentioned in all this. It's pretty much warehouse internally and logistics externally that are getting flattened by the death of the high street.

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PostRe: Reminder: if you're buying from amazon, you're a strawberry floating scab
by Oblomov Boblomov » Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:02 am

Dual wrote:
Oblomov Boblomov wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Oblomov Boblomov wrote:
Lex-Man wrote:
Oblomov Boblomov wrote:Solidarity with my warehouse brothers. I worked in the same role but for John Lewis, must have been around 7-8 years ago now. Worst period of employment in my life. Flashbacks when I watched that undercover Amazon documentary a while back.


I thought John Lewis was all swanky and stuff. I thought they'd treat you well.

Monotonous, exhausting labour for hideously low pay, surrounded by awful people (I know I called them my brothers earlier, but the people I worked alongside were mostly a horrible bunch of racist, homophobic, criminal all-round nasties).


But what were their Bradford scores?

It was 90% agency staff (myself included) who didn't get paid if they were sick. Funnily enough, absence was pretty much unheard of.

Several people got sacked for trying to steal items, though. There were detectors everywhere and we would be searched around 3-4 times a shift, but still every other week someone would get pinched for trying to smuggle perfume out :fp:.


Did you work at the Redditch warehouse?

The very same. I'm pretty sure Cosmo did a stint there as well and lasted one week or something like that :lol:. The good old days...

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PostRe: Reminder: if you're buying from amazon, you're a strawberry floating scab
by Jenuall » Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:56 am

Were you still entitled to the Partnership bonuses as part of the warehouse staff?

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PostRe: Reminder: if you're buying from amazon, you're a strawberry floating scab
by Oblomov Boblomov » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:21 am

Jenuall wrote:Were you still entitled to the Partnership bonuses as part of the warehouse staff?

I have no idea. I'm fairly certain not, possibly because we were almost all agency staff and the Agency Workers Regulations weren't introduced until a year or two after I was there.

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PostRe: Reminder: if you're buying from amazon, you're a strawberry floating scab
by Garth » Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:09 am

Looks like it went pretty well for Amazon:
Prime Day 2019 Surpassed Black Friday and Cyber Monday Combined

This year, Prime Day was once again the largest shopping event in Amazon history with more than one million deals exclusively for Prime members. Over the two days of Prime Day, on July 15 and 16, sales surpassed the previous Black Friday and Cyber Monday combined. Prime members purchased more than 175 million items throughout the event. Prime Day was also the biggest event ever for Amazon devices, when comparing two-day periods – top-selling deals worldwide were Echo Dot, Fire TV Stick with Alexa Voice Remote, and Fire TV Stick 4K with Alexa Voice Remote.

“We want to thank Prime members all around the world,” said Jeff Bezos, Amazon founder and CEO. “Members purchased millions of Alexa-enabled devices, received tens of millions of dollars in savings by shopping from Whole Foods Market and bought more than $2 billion of products from independent small and medium-sized businesses. Huge thank you to Amazonians everywhere who made this day possible for customers.”

Global Highlights from Prime Day 2019

- Prime members worldwide saved more than one billion dollars throughout Prime Day.
- Millions of items shipped in one day or faster using Prime Free One-Day, Prime Free Same-Day, or Prime Now worldwide – making it the fastest Prime Day ever.
- Members in 18 countries shopped – double the number since the first Prime Day five years ago.
- Amazon welcomed more new Prime members on July 15 than any previous day, and almost as many on July 16 – making these the two biggest days ever for member signups.
- Customers made their homes smarter by purchasing millions of smart home devices. Top-selling deals included iRobot Roomba 690 Robot Vacuum, MyQ Smart Garage Door Opener Chamberlain MYQ-G0301, and Amazon Smart Plug.
- Customers purchased 2x as many Ring and Blink devices this Prime Day as last year, when comparing two-day periods.
- Prime Day was the biggest event ever on Amazon for Alexa devices with screens, such as Echo Show and Echo Show 5.
- This was the best Prime Day ever for Fire tablets, with Fire 7 tablet as the top-seller. This was also the best Prime Day ever for Kindle devices.
- Customers purchased hundreds of thousands of Amazon kids’ devices this Prime Day, such as Echo Dot Kids Edition, Fire 7 Kids Edition tablet, and Fire HD 8 Kids Edition tablet.
- Customers purchased 2x as many Fire TV Edition Smart TVs as last year’s record-setting Prime Day, when comparing two-day periods. Since launch, customers have purchased millions of Fire TV Edition Smart TVs.
- This Prime Day was the biggest sales event ever for eero on Amazon—customers purchased 6x as many devices as any previous sales event for eero.

More Entertainment this Prime Day than Ever Before

Millions of people around the world streamed Prime Day events – including the Twitch Prime Crown Cup featuring FIFA 19 and Apex Legends and the Prime Day Concert presented by Amazon Music and headlined by 10-time GRAMMY Award-winning artist Taylor Swift. Highlights from the Prime Day Concert include Taylor Swift performing “You Need to Calm Down” live for the first time ever; SZA performing a rendition of the iconic ‘90s pop classic “Kiss Me” by Sixpence None The Richer; Dua Lipa’s rousing performance of her hit, “Blow Your Mind (Mwah);” and Becky G’s world debut of her fiery new track entitled “Dollar.” Prime members in 200 countries can still exclusively watch select songs from each performance from the Prime Day Concert on Prime Video. For more details on the show and to add it to your watchlist, head to primevideo.com/primedayconcert.

U.S. Highlights from Prime Day 2019

- A record number of Prime members shopped during Prime Day in the U.S.
- Prime members purchased more than 100,000 lunchboxes, 100,000 laptops, 200,000 TVs, one million headphones, 350,000 luxury beauty products, 400,000 pet products, 650,000 household cleaning supplies, and more than one million toys.
- Prime members purchased more than 200,000 LifeStraw Personal Water Filters and 150,000 Crest 3D White Professional Effects Whitestrips Kits.
- This year, Prime members in the U.S. received tens of millions in Prime Day savings when they shopped at Whole Foods Market. The best-selling Prime Day deals were organic strawberries, red cherries, and blueberries.

Prime Day Best Sellers by Country

Members shopped across nearly the entire catalog of products including electronics, beauty, fashion, grocery, toys, furniture, everyday essentials, school supplies, and more. Some of the top-selling deals from around the world, excluding devices, included:

- United States: LifeStraw Personal Water Filter, Instant Pot DUO60, and 23andMe Health + Ancestry kits
- United Kingdom: Sony PlayStation Classic Console, Oral-B SmartSeries Electric Toothbrush, and Shark Vacuum Cleaner
- United Arab Emirates: Al Ain Bottled Water, Ariel Laundry Detergent, and Fine Towel Tissue Roll
- Spain: yobola Wireless Bluetooth Headphones, Philips Multigroom Series 7000 All-in-One Trimmer, and DoDot Diapers
- Singapore: Meiji Fresh Milk, Coca-Cola Zero Sugar Soft Drink, and Kleenex Clean Care Bath Tissue
- Netherlands: Mama Bear Diapers, SanDisk 128 GB Memory Card, and Philips Hue White and Color Ambiance Light
- Mexico: Nintendo Switch, HP Monitor 22w Borderless, and Nautica Travel Sport Eau de Toilette Spray
- Luxembourg: JBL Charge 3 Stealth Edition Bluetooth Portable Boombox, Tefal Jamie Oliver Stainless Steel Pan, and iRobot Roomba 671
- Japan: Happy Belly Water, Anker PowerCore 10,000 Mobile Battery, and Pampers Premium Protection Diapers
- Italy: NESCAFÉ Dolce Gusto Barista Caffè Espresso, Dash 3-in-1 Detergent Pods, and AUKEY Powerbank Portable Charger
- India: Syska 9-Watt Smart LED Bulb Compatible with Amazon Alexa, boAt Rockerz Sports Bluetooth Wireless Earphones, and Godrej Aer Pocket Bathroom Fragrance
- Germany and Austria: JBL Bluetooth Speaker, Tefal Jamie Oliver Stainless Steel Pan, and OSRAM Smart+ Plug Zigbee Switchable Light Socket
- France: iRobot Roomba 671, Lunii Story Telling Factory, and Oral-B SmartSeries Electric Toothbrush
- China: Dove Exfoliating Scrub, L’Oreal Rejuvenating Eye Cream, and Silk’n Permanent Hair Removal Device
- Canada: PlayStation 4 Slim with Spiderman and Horizon Zero Dawn, LifeStraw Personal Water Filter, and 23andMe Health + Ancestry kits
- Belgium: OSRAM Smart+ Plug Zigbee Switchable Light Socket, SanDisk 128GB Memory Card, and Brita Water Filter
- Australia: Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Finish Powerball All-in-1 Max Dishwasher Tablets, and Huggies Ultra Dry Nappies

Spotlighting Small and Medium-Sized Businesses

Prime Day 2019 was another record-breaking success for independent third-party sellers—mostly small and medium-sized businesses. These innovators, artisans, and entrepreneurs are an invaluable part of the Amazon family. Products from these unique businesses increase variety and contribute to the ever-expanding selection available to Prime members worldwide. Globally, these businesses far exceeded $2 billion in sales this Prime Day, making it the biggest Amazon shopping event ever for third-party sellers when comparing two-day periods.

Every Day Made Better with Prime

Prime was designed to make your life better every single day. Over 100 million paid members around the world enjoy the many benefits of Prime, including the best of shopping and entertainment on Prime Day. In the U.S. that includes unlimited access to award-winning movies and TV episodes with Prime Video; unlimited access to Prime Music, Prime Reading, Twitch Prime, and more. Prime members can also get deep discounts on select popular products at Whole Foods Market plus an additional 10 percent off hundreds of sale items. Prime was built on the foundation of unlimited fast, free shipping. In addition to more than 10 million items available for one-day delivery coast to coast, Prime members in thousands of cities and towns across 44 major metropolitan areas have access to millions of items with free same-day delivery. Simply look for items marked as eligible for delivery today, order by lunch, and get your items by bed time. For delivery in a matter of hours, members can also use Prime Now to receive grocery delivery from Whole Foods Market in nearly 90 U.S. metros, or grocery pickup in as little as 30 minutes in 30 metros, with more to come in 2019. We continue to offer more than 100 million products for two-day delivery as well.

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PostRe: Reminder: if you're buying from amazon, you're a strawberry floating scab
by KK » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:26 pm

Has anyone ever paid full price for an Oral-B toothbrush...

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by Tomous » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:27 pm

KK wrote:Has anyone ever paid full price for an Oral-B toothbrush...


Only the type of people who manage to go to DFS when there isn't a sale on.

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by Jenuall » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:29 pm

Theresa May could probably negotiate her way to a compromise of paying fill price for one.

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by Preezy » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:29 pm

KK wrote:Has anyone ever paid full price for an Oral-B toothbrush...

:lol:

Reminds me of this shop called Eisenegger (sp?) that used to be in our local shopping centre, it was always running a sale. You literally couldn't walk in and pay full price for something, everything was always permanently discounted :lol:

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by OrangeRKN » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:48 pm

Isn't that illegal?

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by Tomous » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:55 pm

OrangeRKN wrote:Isn't that illegal?


Yeah you have to have an item at a price for a certain amount of time before you can call it on sale.

I'm not sure how strictly it's enforced though.

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PostRe: Reminder: if you're buying from amazon, you're a strawberry floating scab
by Moggy » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:02 pm

Jenuall wrote:Theresa May could probably negotiate her way to a compromise of paying fill price for one.


Toothpaste means toothpaste! :x

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by Jenuall » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:15 pm

Moggy wrote:
Jenuall wrote:Theresa May could probably negotiate her way to a compromise of paying fill price for one.


Toothpaste means toothpaste! :x

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by Preezy » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:18 pm

OrangeRKN wrote:Isn't that illegal?

Well they existed for years in that format, this was 20 years ago though so perhaps the laws have changed since? Either way, a good nostalgia trip for me which is the most important thing I think we can all agree :D

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by Lex-Man » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:24 pm

Preezy wrote:
OrangeRKN wrote:Isn't that illegal?

Well they existed for years in that format, this was 20 years ago though so perhaps the laws have changed since? Either way, a good nostalgia trip for me which is the most important thing I think we can all agree :D


That's been the case for years. I learnt about it at college which was almost 20 years ago now. Places like DFS get round it by rotating stuff in and out of sale ever couple of weeks.

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by Jenuall » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:27 pm

Tomous wrote:
OrangeRKN wrote:Isn't that illegal?


Yeah you have to have an item at a price for a certain amount of time before you can call it on sale.

I'm not sure how strictly it's enforced though.

It used to be that something had to have been sold at the "full" price for at least 28 days within the last 6 months, but that was changed a few years ago as it was easy to abuse (i.e. you could sell something at a higher price for only 1 month out of 6 and then claim that the price was a "sale" for the other 5)

Another thing that you used to be able to get away with (and what might have been happening in this case) is that shops would have one store where they sold things at a higher price (i.e. selling something that should retail at £2 for £3 or £4) - and then using this fact to allow them to advertise that the £2 price in all their other stores is a 50% off bargain!

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by KK » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:41 pm

Lex-Man wrote:That's been the case for years. I learnt about it at college which was almost 20 years ago now. Places like DFS get round it by rotating stuff in and out of sale ever couple of weeks.

They're even more sneakier than that. They change a sofa just enough so they can then put what is effectively the same sofa back on sale again under a new name, the old sofas removed from the store showrooms and placed exclusively on their website for a few months at full price.

Why not just save everyone the aggravation, have no sales whatsoever, and sell the product at what is evidently the real price.

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by Tomous » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:44 pm

There's definitely rotation systems going on in supermarkets with wine too.

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