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Peter Crisp wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Peter Crisp wrote:They go on and on about being the freeist (sp?) country on earth

They are not free and they never have been.

They have been told all of their lives that they are the freest nation on the planet and they believe it. But it’s not actually true. strawberry float, they were not even a (pisspoor) democracy until the 1960s.

I had so many, many arguments on the US politics forum about the fact that the US is not a democracy but a republic.
Holding democratic elections doesn't count apparently.

Peter Crisp wrote:It really honestly never occurs to him to wonder why 90% of the coverage is negative.

Moggy wrote:

Peter Crisp wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Peter Crisp wrote:They go on and on about being the freeist (sp?) country on earth

They are not free and they never have been.

They have been told all of their lives that they are the freest nation on the planet and they believe it. But it’s not actually true. strawberry float, they were not even a (pisspoor) democracy until the 1960s.

I had so many, many arguments on the US politics forum about the fact that the US is not a democracy but a republic.
Holding democratic elections doesn't count apparently.

It seems a bit pedantic to argue over whether it is a republic or a democracy.

But it certainly wasn’t a free democracy up until the 1960s, when some members of society were not even allowed to use the front doors of a concert hall and were banned from drinking water from certain drinking fountains. And that’s before we even get into voting…

It’s a piss poor democracy now (as is the UK!) but they really don’t have a very long history of democracy.

Preezy wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Peter Crisp wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Peter Crisp wrote:They go on and on about being the freeist (sp?) country on earth

They are not free and they never have been.

They have been told all of their lives that they are the freest nation on the planet and they believe it. But it’s not actually true. strawberry float, they were not even a (pisspoor) democracy until the 1960s.

I had so many, many arguments on the US politics forum about the fact that the US is not a democracy but a republic.
Holding democratic elections doesn't count apparently.

It seems a bit pedantic to argue over whether it is a republic or a democracy.

But it certainly wasn’t a free democracy up until the 1960s, when some members of society were not even allowed to use the front doors of a concert hall and were banned from drinking water from certain drinking fountains. And that’s before we even get into voting…

It’s a piss poor democracy now (as is the UK!) but they really don’t have a very long history of democracy.

"Best" democracy out there at the moment? France? One of the Scandinavian countries?

Preezy wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Peter Crisp wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Peter Crisp wrote:They go on and on about being the freeist (sp?) country on earth

They are not free and they never have been.

They have been told all of their lives that they are the freest nation on the planet and they believe it. But it’s not actually true. strawberry float, they were not even a (pisspoor) democracy until the 1960s.

I had so many, many arguments on the US politics forum about the fact that the US is not a democracy but a republic.
Holding democratic elections doesn't count apparently.

It seems a bit pedantic to argue over whether it is a republic or a democracy.

But it certainly wasn’t a free democracy up until the 1960s, when some members of society were not even allowed to use the front doors of a concert hall and were banned from drinking water from certain drinking fountains. And that’s before we even get into voting…

It’s a piss poor democracy now (as is the UK!) but they really don’t have a very long history of democracy.

"Best" democracy out there at the moment? France? One of the Scandinavian countries?

Preezy wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Peter Crisp wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Peter Crisp wrote:They go on and on about being the freeist (sp?) country on earth

They are not free and they never have been.

They have been told all of their lives that they are the freest nation on the planet and they believe it. But it’s not actually true. strawberry float, they were not even a (pisspoor) democracy until the 1960s.

I had so many, many arguments on the US politics forum about the fact that the US is not a democracy but a republic.
Holding democratic elections doesn't count apparently.

It seems a bit pedantic to argue over whether it is a republic or a democracy.

But it certainly wasn’t a free democracy up until the 1960s, when some members of society were not even allowed to use the front doors of a concert hall and were banned from drinking water from certain drinking fountains. And that’s before we even get into voting…

It’s a piss poor democracy now (as is the UK!) but they really don’t have a very long history of democracy.

"Best" democracy out there at the moment? France? One of the Scandinavian countries?

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Jenuall wrote:I really hope that this is all leading toward an absolutely watertight case against Trump and all his cronies. Even under normal circumstances you would want to avoid any doubt that these people are bent, but that is all the more important in this era where you can seemingly just say FAKE NEWS and get away whatever the strawberry float you want!

Novartis official: Michael Cohen was 'promising access' after Trump election
Cohen reached out to the drug giant after the election, a senior Novartis official said

President Donald Trump's personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, contacted the drug giant Novartis after the 2016 election "promising access" to the new administration, and Special Counsel Robert Mueller later requested information from the company about the offer, a senior official inside Novartis told NBC News on Wednesday.

"He [Cohen] contacted us after the new administration was in place," the official said. "He was promising access to the new administration."

The disclosure came after an attorney representing the adult-film actress who says she had an affair with Trump released a summary of bank transactions that he says shows payments from various companies to a company controlled by Cohen.

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Harry Ola wrote:

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November 2017!

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