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by Meep » Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:35 pm

Trump strikes me as someone who would be ridiculously easy to control once you get him figured out. He's massively egotistical so as long as long as what you are feeding him the message that he is great he will probably buy into whatever you are selling. It's not really surprising that Wall Street piled into his administration. They are experts at playing the strings of politicians and playing Trump's does not require much subtly.

I would agree that the real danger is posed by the people now controlling him. The US government is now being literally being run by the same people who caused the great recession. There is now zero chance of them trying to reform capitalism and every possibility that they will attempt to bend things even more in their favour, with potentially disastrous results.

So while Trump's innate incompetence is dangerous, the competence of the people behind him is even more frightening.

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by Photek » Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:43 pm

Theresa May is an absolute joke. Pathetic of her to fail to condemn Trump.

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by KK » Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:59 pm

BBC News wrote:Prime Minister Theresa May has told her foreign secretary and home secretary to contact their US counterparts about a travel ban imposed by President Trump.

Boris Johnson and Amber Rudd will make representations about the order barring refugees and visa holders from seven Muslim majority countries for 90 days.

The prime minister has had a conference call with Mr Johnson and Ms Rudd and instructed them to make representations to their opposite numbers in the State Department and the Department of Homeland Security, aimed at protecting the rights of British nationals.

BBC political editor Laura Kuenssberg has been told that both ministers had already been talking to US contacts about a possible British exemption to the executive order. Mr Johnson was talking to Mr Trump's chief strategist Steve Bannon and senior adviser Jared Kushner, a source said.

Earlier Mr Johnson joined those speaking out against Mr Trump's executive order halting the entire US refugee programme and instituting a 90-day travel ban for nationals from Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen.

He wrote on Twitter: "We will protect the rights and freedoms of UK nationals home and abroad. Divisive and wrong to stigmatise because of nationality."

Lol at stooging it off to somebody else.

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by Moggy » Sun Jan 29, 2017 5:03 pm

Our homegrown fascist shitlord supports Trump's extreme vetting.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics ... 52661.html

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Slayerx » Sun Jan 29, 2017 5:16 pm

This is getting crazy !


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by KK » Sun Jan 29, 2017 5:17 pm

If this were legitimately about blocking terrorism then Saudi Arabia would be on the list. Even the policy itself is inconsistent. Those that actually have killed thousands of Americans are fine, whereas those that may are barred.

Only appealing to his core base by making it look like he's doing something at the expense of decent people.

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by Slayerx » Sun Jan 29, 2017 5:21 pm

Someone like May needs to grow a spine and be vocal about how wrong this is but the UK is too vunerable with everything going on around leaving the EU!

Its pretty embarrassing for the UK to not be able to stand up to Trump.

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by Moggy » Sun Jan 29, 2017 5:21 pm

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by Memento Mori » Sun Jan 29, 2017 5:28 pm

But Trump has businesses in Saudi Arabia Moggy.

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by Moggy » Sun Jan 29, 2017 5:31 pm

Memento Mori wrote:But Trump has businesses in Saudi Arabia Moggy.


Didn't you see all the paperwork on the table that proved he got rid of all his businesse?

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by D_C » Sun Jan 29, 2017 5:37 pm

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/171928

This was possibly the quickest petition to reach 100,000. Just look at how quickly it's increasing :slol:

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by Lagamorph » Sun Jan 29, 2017 5:49 pm

Brexit is bad, and Theresa May is bad, but bloody hell....at least it's not as bad as Trump :dread:

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by KK » Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:07 pm

D_C wrote:https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/171928

This was possibly the quickest petition to reach 100,000. Just look at how quickly it's increasing :slol:

I too don't want to see Trump received by The Prince of Wales either.

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by Lex-Man » Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:27 pm

Just seen the comments on the Daily Mail comment board. They are calling May a closet lefty.

http://www.dailyfail.co.uk/news/article ... n-ban.html

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by Lagamorph » Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:29 pm

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by captain red dog » Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:30 pm

Interesting to see the middle classes raging about banning Trump and starting petitions but they seem oblivious or turn the other cheek to the other disgusting regimes we host and openly promote.

I'd much rather Trump came over and saw the protests to be honest. It would actually be politically convenient if this petition gained traction as it would save Trump and May a lot of embarrassment.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Cuttooth » Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:32 pm

Trump having to cancel a state visit to another country because its people refuse to host him would not be insignificant, and would be highly embarrassing anyway.

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by Lagamorph » Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:33 pm

The petition isn't to stop him coming over, it's just to stop it from being an Official state visit with the Royal Family involved.

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by Lex-Man » Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:34 pm

captain red dog wrote:Interesting to see the middle classes raging about banning Trump and starting petitions but they seem oblivious or turn the other cheek to the other disgusting regimes we host and openly promote.

I'd much rather Trump came over and saw the protests to be honest. It would actually be politically convenient if this petition gained traction as it would save Trump and May a lot of embarrassment.


Your actually kind of right. China et al are much worse. They do attract protests when they come over here but nothing like whats happening now. I guess people just feel closer to America so this outrages them more.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by captain red dog » Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:40 pm

I just think it would be more effective for him to come over and see the protests and strength of feeling. If the argument is about it being an official state visit then to me that is even more weak given the other nations we are happy to host.


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