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by DML » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:28 am

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Parksey wrote:Bit of a odd way to try and play devil's advocate on the matter to say: "Hey guys, it isn't *actually* a Muslim ban (though it almost certainly was intended to be)".

That's just splitting hairs. It's bending over backwards a little to make a slight defense of such a policy.

Like someone attempting to shoot you and then saying "hey, look, I'm not all bad, as I actually missed".

No its isn't. It's making clear to the people that celebrate it as a Muslim ban that it is nothing of the sort, whilst pointing out that it is a thinly veiled attempt at one that is poorly thought out, planned and executed. So even the gooseberry fool stuff he does, he does badly.


How can you even deny it? It's as clear as the grass is green!

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Hexx » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:40 am

I think CRD might actually be our own little Trump if he wants people to called it FAILED MUSLIM BAN :P

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Lagamorph » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:41 am

Hexx wrote:Love to know what that 'substantial evidence' is

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Hexx » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:28 am

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by Tafdolphin » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:43 am

Sign slogans: I've settled on:

"Terrible at making signs. So angry I tried anyway." with a load of hashtags and some poorly drawn tiny hands. Also going to have the ACLU donation page on the back

"Make Margaret Atwood Fiction Again" which I completely stole, but is great.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Preezy » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:44 am

I'd have gone with "Rafa Out" on a normal piece of A4 paper, but hey-ho.

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by Alvin Flummux » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:56 am

His popularity is tanking:

twitter.com/GallupNews/status/825043387820679172



President Trump's actions during his first week in office have appeared to be aimed at the voters who already supported him, not at reaching out to the rest, and that's taken a rapid toll on his support, which was already historically low.

Gallup, which has measured job approval for presidents for decades, shows Trump's approval so far at 45%, with 48% disapproving. That's an average of several days' polling.

The daily trend lines are not kind to the new administration. As of Saturday, 51% of Americans disapproved of Trump's performance.

That's a record for the speed of getting to majority disapproval.

By comparison, President George W. Bush hit majority disapproval six months into his second term, in June 2005, and remained in negative territory for the rest of his tenure.

President Obama did not hit 51% disapproval until August of 2011, during the crisis over the federal debt ceiling that summer. His approval rebounded later that year, but he had a second period of majority disapproval during late 2013 and much of 2014. He ended his term with widespread approval and 37% of Americans disapproving.


http://www.latimes.com/politics/washing ... story.html

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Hexx » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:00 pm

Polls got it wrong before! They're wrong now! FAILED POLLSTERS! FAKE NEWS!

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Moggy » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:00 pm

Alvin Flummux wrote:His popularity is tanking:

twitter.com/GallupNews/status/825043387820679172



President Trump's actions during his first week in office have appeared to be aimed at the voters who already supported him, not at reaching out to the rest, and that's taken a rapid toll on his support, which was already historically low.

Gallup, which has measured job approval for presidents for decades, shows Trump's approval so far at 45%, with 48% disapproving. That's an average of several days' polling.

The daily trend lines are not kind to the new administration. As of Saturday, 51% of Americans disapproved of Trump's performance.

That's a record for the speed of getting to majority disapproval.

By comparison, President George W. Bush hit majority disapproval six months into his second term, in June 2005, and remained in negative territory for the rest of his tenure.

President Obama did not hit 51% disapproval until August of 2011, during the crisis over the federal debt ceiling that summer. His approval rebounded later that year, but he had a second period of majority disapproval during late 2013 and much of 2014. He ended his term with widespread approval and 37% of Americans disapproving.


http://www.latimes.com/politics/washing ... story.html


Yes but if you take out the opinion of the dead people and illegal opinion poll voters then he actually has a very high approval rating.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by KK » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:02 pm

Are we dead yet?

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Garth » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:14 pm

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Alvin Flummux » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:16 pm

Won't this mean that all US military personnel assisting with the war against ISIS will be expelled?

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Preezy » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:16 pm

Moggy wrote:Yes but if you take out the opinion of the dead people and illegal opinion poll voters then he actually has a very high approval rating.

Does that include the bad hombres? I feel this is an important point to establish.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Moggy » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:32 pm

Preezy wrote:
Moggy wrote:Yes but if you take out the opinion of the dead people and illegal opinion poll voters then he actually has a very high approval rating.

Does that include the bad hombres? I feel this is an important point to establish.


They are rapists, but I assume some of them are good people.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by KK » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:36 pm

If Trump's goal was to make the United States hated across the world he's doing a great job. The best.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Lagamorph » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:36 pm

Trump is just alternatively popular.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Rex Kramer » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:37 pm

Alvin Flummux wrote:His popularity is tanking:

twitter.com/GallupNews/status/825043387820679172



President Trump's actions during his first week in office have appeared to be aimed at the voters who already supported him, not at reaching out to the rest, and that's taken a rapid toll on his support, which was already historically low.

Gallup, which has measured job approval for presidents for decades, shows Trump's approval so far at 45%, with 48% disapproving. That's an average of several days' polling.

The daily trend lines are not kind to the new administration. As of Saturday, 51% of Americans disapproved of Trump's performance.

That's a record for the speed of getting to majority disapproval.

By comparison, President George W. Bush hit majority disapproval six months into his second term, in June 2005, and remained in negative territory for the rest of his tenure.

President Obama did not hit 51% disapproval until August of 2011, during the crisis over the federal debt ceiling that summer. His approval rebounded later that year, but he had a second period of majority disapproval during late 2013 and much of 2014. He ended his term with widespread approval and 37% of Americans disapproving.


http://www.latimes.com/politics/washing ... story.html

I've a feeling the only approval rating Trump cares about always runs at 100%.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by KK » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:43 pm

I love how Trump is going to spend even more money on the military when it's already running at $600+ billion. They so outclass every other military power (I think you'd need to combine the spending of 9 or 10 other of the top nations to match it) it's just ridiculous. They have more nukes than will ever be required...

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Garth » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:45 pm

KKLEIN wrote:If Trump's goal was to make the United States hated across the world he's doing a great job. The best.


The great negotiator! The best!

He's got desperate old us on his side at least!

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Hexx » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:52 pm

twitter.com/faisalislam/status/826037034426966016



Conflicting info from Foreign Office (who confirmed this morning that's Trump Team assured them that UK dual nationalities weren't affected) and the US London Embassy


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