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by Lex-Man » Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:35 pm

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Jesus strawberry float

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Post-operational mission creep, Jesus Harold Christ.

Killed 30 civilians, killed a US Navy SEAL, and failed to kill the planned target = MASSIVE SUCCESS. Sam Fisher would be proud.

"A disaster" has never been more fitting. No wonder they call him "Mad Dog" Mattis...supposedly one of the more sane picks in this DISASTER of a line-up.


Sounds like what happened the last time I played Hitman.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Hexx » Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:26 pm

Government lawyer flopping hard at the appeal court.

Impossible to see them winning this based on this performance

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by Garth » Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:26 pm

twitter.com/SenJohnMcCain/status/829091432728244225


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by Garth » Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:27 pm

The Appeals Court is currently hearing arguments over the immigration ban:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEK8FCBMkMQ

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Hexx » Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:30 pm

Yeah the gov lawyer is taking a beating.

How can he seem this unprepared...

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by Garth » Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:44 pm

This is giving me flashbacks to 2015 when my girlfriend and I had to fight the Home Office in court to allow her to visit for a few months, after an immigration officer didn't believe her that she was here for a holiday and attempted to fly her out of the country the next morning :(

We ended up winning however :cool:

Terrible experience though!

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by Rightey » Wed Feb 08, 2017 1:12 am

Garth wrote:I suppose if education improved in the US, fewer people would vote for Republicans.


Education in the US is already pretty awful because their system is set up to reward good schools and punish bad schools in order to get them to improve, rather than helping schools that do poorly with additional resources.

It's like a person with a broken leg racing Usain Bolt, and then Usain gets a car because he was so fast and the person with the broken leg gets a cement block tied to them for being too slow. :fp:

Furthermore teaching is a pretty poorly paid profession with fairly low entry requirements in the US, which again hurts education there. This move sure won't help things but sadly things have been broken there for a very long time.

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by Alvin Flummux » Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:01 am

The GOP just eliminated the Election Assistance Commission, which was created back in 2000 to oversee the implementation of better voting standards, the dissemination of election-related information to federal groups and state/election officials, and to upgrade voting technology. This gives them plenty more leeway to institute disenfranchisement measures that will cut millions more Americans out of the democratic process.

"At a time when the vast majority of the country's voting machines are outdated and in need of replacement, and after an election in which foreign criminals already tried to hack state voter registration systems, eliminating the EAC poses a risky and irresponsible threat to our election infrastructure," said Wendy Weiser, the democracy program director at the Brennan Center for Justice.


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStor ... n-45328264

:dread: Things just keep getting worse and worse.

I hope Trump loses hard in 2020, as there'll be so much to restore and rebuild.

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by Garth » Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:34 am

Yemen Withdraws Permission for U.S. Antiterror Ground Missions

Angry at the civilian casualties incurred last month in the first commando raid authorized by President Trump, Yemen has withdrawn permission for the United States to run Special Operations ground missions against suspected terrorist groups in the country, according to American officials.

Grisly photographs of children apparently killed in the crossfire of a 50-minute firefight during the raid caused outrage in Yemen. A member of the Navy’s SEAL Team 6, Chief Petty Officer William Owens, was also killed in the operation.

While the White House continues to insist that the attack was a “success” — a characterization it repeated on Tuesday — the suspension of commando operations is a setback for Mr. Trump, who has made it clear he plans to take a far more aggressive approach against Islamic militants.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/07/worl ... sions.html

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by Garth » Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:54 am

Leaks Suggest Trump’s Own Team Is Alarmed By His Conduct
White House leaks are common, but leakers suggesting the president might be unfit for office are not.

President Donald Trump was confused about the dollar: Was it a strong one that’s good for the economy? Or a weak one?

So he made a call ― except not to any of the business leaders Trump brought into his administration or even to an old friend from his days in real estate. Instead, he called his national security adviser, retired Lt. Gen. Mike Flynn, according to two sources familiar with Flynn’s accounts of the incident.

Flynn has a long record in counterintelligence but not in macroeconomics. And he told Trump he didn’t know, that it wasn’t his area of expertise, that, perhaps, Trump should ask an economist instead.

Trump was not thrilled with that response ― but that may have been a function of the time of day. Trump had placed the call at 3 a.m., according to one of Flynn’s retellings ― although neither the White House nor Flynn’s office responded to requests for confirmation about that detail.

For Americans who based their impression of Trump on the competent and decisive tycoon he portrayed on his “Apprentice” TV reality shows, the portrait from these and many other tidbits emerging from his administration may seem a shock: an impulsive, sometimes petty chief executive more concerned with the adulation of the nation than the details of his own policies ― and quick to assign blame when things do not go his way.

Unsurprisingly, Trump’s volatile behavior has created an environment ripe for leaks from his executive agencies and even within his White House. And while leaks typically involve staffers sabotaging each other to improve their own standing or trying to scuttle policy ideas they find genuinely problematic, Trump’s 2-week-old administration has a third category: leaks from White House and agency officials alarmed by the president’s conduct.

“I’ve been in this town for 26 years. I have never seen anything like this,” said Eliot Cohen, a senior State Department official under President George W. Bush and a member of his National Security Council. “I genuinely do not think this is a mentally healthy president.”

There is the matter of Trump’s briefing materials, for example. The commander in chief doesn’t like to read long memos, a White House aide who asked to remain unnamed told The Huffington Post. So preferably they must be no more than a single page. They must have bullet points but not more than nine per page.

Small things can provide him great joy or generate intense irritation. Trump told The New York Times that he’s fascinated with the phone system inside the White House. At the same time, he’s registered a complaint about the hand towels aboard Air Force One, the White House aide said, because they are not soft enough.

He’s been particularly obsessed with the performance of his aides on cable television. Past presidents typically didn’t make time to watch their press secretary’s daily briefings with reporters, but Trump appears to have made it part of his routine. “Saturday Night Live’s” weekly skewering of his administration is similarly on his must-watch list ― with his reaction ranging from unamused to seething.

Information about Trump’s personal interactions and the inner workings of his administration has come to HuffPost from individuals in executive agencies and in the White House itself. They spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of losing their jobs.

While some of the leaks are based on opposition to his policies – the travel ban on all refugees and on visitors from seven predominantly Muslim nations, for instance – many appear motivated by a belief that Trump’s words, deeds and tweets pose a genuine threat.

When Trump tweeted about North Korea’s missile technology three weeks before he took office, for example, it scrambled then-President Barack Obama’s national security apparatus, which saw a risk in provoking an unstable young dictator who possessed nuclear weapons.

Richard Nephew, a State Department expert on Iran sanctions under Obama, said some of the leaks from the agencies are likely efforts to let the public know that their advice has not been followed, in the event something bad happens down the road. “This, I think, is about making it clear that these folks have tried to do the right thing and there is only so much they can do with a hostile administration,” Nephew said.

Perhaps along those lines, The Associated Press reported the details of a phone call Jan. 27 between Trump and Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto, noting that Trump said Mexico had “bad hombres” and that he might need to send U.S. troops to take care of things. (The White House later said Trump had been joking around.) The Washington Post detailed a Jan. 28 conversation between Trump and Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull in which Trump angrily denounced an agreement to resettle refugees held by Australia in the United States.

The New York Times, meanwhile, painted a portrait of a brooding commander in chief, wandering the White House alone in a bathrobe at night, watching too much cable television and venting his frustrations through angry tweets.

“I think it’s a cry for help,” said Elizabeth Rosenberg, a counterterrorism expert at the Treasury Department under Obama. She said many staffers still working in the national security agencies under Trump see what’s happening and are driven by a simple motive: “Incredulity, and the need to share it.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tru ... 61313a1fbb

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by Alvin Flummux » Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:08 am

Garth wrote:
The New York Times, meanwhile, painted a portrait of a brooding commander in chief, wandering the White House alone in a bathrobe at night, watching too much cable television and venting his frustrations through angry tweets.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tru ... 61313a1fbb


The image of a darkly brooding President Trump wandering the White House halls at night, that is some gold right there - for satire or political thriller alike.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Rightey » Wed Feb 08, 2017 6:50 am

Alvin Flummux wrote:
Garth wrote:
The New York Times, meanwhile, painted a portrait of a brooding commander in chief, wandering the White House alone in a bathrobe at night, watching too much cable television and venting his frustrations through angry tweets.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tru ... 61313a1fbb


The image of a darkly brooding President Trump wandering the White House halls at night, that is some gold right there - for satire or political thriller alike.


- Lives in a big house
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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Photek » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:04 am

Elizabeth Warren barred from debates on Sessions after reading a letter from Martin Luther Kings widow about the racist scumbag.

Love that woman, I hope she's president in 2021. :wub:

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Hexx » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:31 am

It's horrifying reading comments defending her, basically

""well she has absolutely 0 qualifications, wants widespread state sponsored child abise and literally bought this cabinet position, but LE LIBERALS hate her so I guess she's good for the job"

I'm genuinely close to thinking death camps might be a good idea.

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by Memento Mori » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:16 am

Just saw this tweet linked on GAF. It's from a few weeks back.


twitter.com/dorseyshaw/status/826536746011807744



That pan-out. :lol:

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by Samuel_1 » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:51 am

Meep wrote:Uh, I don't think all of those tweets are legitimate. Many of them are criticising him for things he promised he would do in the campaign (the travel ban). So why would anyone who voted for him feel bad about him doing something he already promised to do?

I'm sure it's a mix.

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by Grumpy David » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:51 am

Memento Mori wrote:Just saw this tweet linked on GAF. It's from a few weeks back.


twitter.com/dorseyshaw/status/826536746011807744



That pan-out. :lol:


I think I now understand why Manny supported Trump. Videos like this. :slol:

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by chalkitdown » Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:20 pm

Grumpy David wrote:
Memento Mori wrote:Just saw this tweet linked on GAF. It's from a few weeks back.


twitter.com/dorseyshaw/status/826536746011807744



That pan-out. :lol:


I think I now understand why Manny supported Trump. Videos like this. :slol:


The best part of that video is when Rudi speaks up he grabs the arm of the guy next to him. I genuinely believe he thought Guiliani was sitting at his side, not across from him. :lol:

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by Memento Mori » Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:36 pm

chalkitdown wrote:
Grumpy David wrote:
Memento Mori wrote:Just saw this tweet linked on GAF. It's from a few weeks back.


twitter.com/dorseyshaw/status/826536746011807744



That pan-out. :lol:


I think I now understand why Manny supported Trump. Videos like this. :slol:


The best part of that video is when Rudi speaks up he grabs the arm of the guy next to him. I genuinely believe he thought Guiliani was sitting at his side, not across from him. :lol:

I think you're right. At the beginning when he says "I want to introduce Rudy Guiliani" he leans to his left.

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PostRe: The American Politics Thread
by Moggy » Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:39 pm

US President Donald Trump has accused the media of under-reporting terror attacks, and produced a list to back up his claim. Is he right?

While on a visit to US Central Command, a wing of the Department of Defense, he warned of the danger posed by the Islamic State group.

"You have seen what happened in Paris and Nice. All over Europe it's happening," he said.

"It's gotten to a point where it's not even being reported. And in many cases the very, very dishonest press doesn't want to report it.

"They have their reasons, and you understand that."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38890090

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