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PostRe: Final Fantasy VII Remake (PS4) | Demo - Out Now
by Jenuall » Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:07 pm

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Tomous wrote:I never played the original, read this in a review:

The first installment centers solely on the city of Midgar, which takes up, by some estimates, a little more than the first quarter of the original game’s first of three discs.


Is this true :lol: they'll never finish it at that rate :lol:


Midgar probably took about 6 hours or so in the original game for a first time player. I think the game probably took about 40hrs on average so yeah it's a very small chunk of the game :lol:

Yeah it's by no means a tiny section of the game but there is still a concern that it's going to take them a long time (and a large number of "episodes") to get through everything. Especially as whole new systems of the game still appear after Midgar so it's not like this first chapter gives them the basis for everything.

I think there is plenty of scope to expand the Midgar section into something more elaborate than in the original game, it would be easy enough to bulk out the content so this first game is pretty large. Even this demo section already includes more content than the original opening.

I really enjoyed the demo, just seeing the world and hearing that music in glorious detail was awesome. Not entirely sold on the battle system yet but these things take time to bed in so I'm confident it will come into its own. Some of the voice acting is bloody annoying, especially Barrett. Hate how they say some of the terminology as well - "Mack-o" instead of "May-ko" etc. That's not how I've been saying it in my head for 23 years! :lol:

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PostRe: Final Fantasy VII Remake (PS4) | Demo - Out Now
by sawyerpip » Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:15 pm

Jenuall wrote:I really enjoyed the demo, just seeing the world and hearing that music in glorious detail was awesome. Not entirely sold on the battle system yet but these things take time to bed in so I'm confident it will come into its own. Some of the voice acting is bloody annoying, especially Barrett. Hate how they say some of the terminology as well - "Mack-o" instead of "May-ko" etc. That's not how I've been saying it in my head for 23 years! :lol:


I only played the first 5 or 10 minutes of the demo is I'll almost certainly be getting the game anyway, but agree on Barret's voice being very annoying.

Is that seriously how they say Mako as well? I've always pronounced it the same way as you so that's going to be off-putting :lol:

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PostRe: Final Fantasy VII Remake (PS4) | Demo - Out Now
by tolrag » Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:29 pm

Tomous wrote:I never played the original, read this in a review:

The first installment centers solely on the city of Midgar, which takes up, by some estimates, a little more than the first quarter of the original game’s first of three discs.


Is this true :lol: they'll never finish it at that rate :lol:


The estimate is off, disc two begins the fourth and final act of the story.

That would put it about 4 episodes total.

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by Jenuall » Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:53 pm

tolrag wrote:
Tomous wrote:I never played the original, read this in a review:

The first installment centers solely on the city of Midgar, which takes up, by some estimates, a little more than the first quarter of the original game’s first of three discs.


Is this true :lol: they'll never finish it at that rate :lol:


The estimate is off, disc two begins the fourth and final act of the story.

That would put it about 4 episodes total.

Yeah Disc 3 really doesn’t have much to it

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by Captain Kinopio » Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:50 pm

Wow, that was unreal. So good. Never played FF7 before and I’m there’s for day 1 for this now. The visuals the music the style all absolutely stunning. Presentation wise it looks next gen.

I do have some sympathy with the complaints of being overwhelmed. That boss fight was a bit much to take in so soon. The controls feel a little wonky, like I can never look quite where I want to and I dont think I understood the blocking at all. Still got through it in the end and can see it feeling really satisfying once everything clicks, which FF15 never did for me.

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by absolutely not, stop asking this » Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:44 pm

Maybe I need to get to grips with the combat system more but this is a bit...eh. The presentation and music especially is, of course, incredible, but it just feels a bit soulless. Maybe if I hadn't pumped hundreds of hours into the original I wouldn't be saying this...

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by Zilnad » Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:00 am

As someone who's never played a FF game, I feel like I need to give this a go. Although I'm more than happy to wait for a next-gen edition, once it's all been released, if I end up liking it.

Is XV with the boy band road trip a good game for a newcomer to try?

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by mysteriousdave » Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:13 am

Zilnad wrote:
Is XV with the boy band road trip a good game for a newcomer to try?


Its a whole lot of "meh" in my opinion. A weird game, where they give you barely any story as to what's going on and expect you to dip into a load of other media to "get it". Or maybe I'm just a moron. I've been playing for about 2 and a half years so far and have no inclination to finish it.

X is probably a better place to start, or just wait till next month for VII.

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by Zilnad » Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:28 am

I'll probably just not bother then. Thanks for saving me some money :toot:

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by speedboatchase » Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:51 am

Zilnad wrote:As someone who's never played a FF game, I feel like I need to give this a go. Although I'm more than happy to wait for a next-gen edition, once it's all been released, if I end up liking it.

Is XV with the boy band road trip a good game for a newcomer to try?


I actually loved it and think it's a good starting point. The combat is similar enough to FF7 Remake and the 'road trip' aspect is something unique to games in general, not just a series. I think the story and gameplay loses its way towards the end and is very linear, but the open world for the first half of the game is terrific. Plus, there's a Venice-style city later on that is jaw-dropping.

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by speedboatchase » Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:51 am

Zilnad wrote:As someone who's never played a FF game, I feel like I need to give this a go. Although I'm more than happy to wait for a next-gen edition, once it's all been released, if I end up liking it.

Is XV with the boy band road trip a good game for a newcomer to try?


I actually loved it and think it's a good starting point. The combat is similar enough to FF7 Remake and the 'road trip' aspect is something unique to games in general, not just a series. I think the story and gameplay loses its way towards the end and is very linear, but the open world for the first half of the game is terrific. Plus, there's a Venice-style city later on that is jaw-dropping.

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by speedboatchase » Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:52 am

Double post - sorry!

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by Hexx » Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:59 am

tolrag wrote:
Tomous wrote:I never played the original, read this in a review:

The first installment centers solely on the city of Midgar, which takes up, by some estimates, a little more than the first quarter of the original game’s first of three discs.


Is this true :lol: they'll never finish it at that rate :lol:


The estimate is off, disc two begins the fourth and final act of the story.

That would put it about 4 episodes total.


Nah. In the first disc you've got

Midgar
Kalm (and Flash Backs)
Junon (and Journey to)
Mount Coral (and Journey to - just assume I say this everytime)
Golden Saucer/Prison
Nibelhiem
Cosmo Canyon
Rocket Town
Temple of Ancinets
The Last City

And that ignores any side stuff like Pheonix Mountain, Wungo etc

Disc 2 is comparable IIRC and Disc 3 is "your at endgame, you can still explore the world, but most story events are done)

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by Carlos » Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:37 pm

speedboatchase wrote:
Zilnad wrote:As someone who's never played a FF game, I feel like I need to give this a go. Although I'm more than happy to wait for a next-gen edition, once it's all been released, if I end up liking it.

Is XV with the boy band road trip a good game for a newcomer to try?


I actually loved it and think it's a good starting point. The combat is similar enough to FF7 Remake and the 'road trip' aspect is something unique to games in general, not just a series. I think the story and gameplay loses its way towards the end and is very linear, but the open world for the first half of the game is terrific. Plus, there's a Venice-style city later on that is jaw-dropping.


Seconded. I really enjoyed FFXV because it gives you the open world at the start when you don't really care about the story rather than just prior to the final dungeon when you really want to see the end. As the game goes on it gets a little bit less open so that by the time you're on the final chapter (you'll know when) you've already done all the sidequests and you're ready to see the story through to the end. The battle system is also really good and there is some sound logic on why your characters can use magic etc. The lack of any fanservice boobs characters in the main party also means its a lot less cringeworthy than most other JRPG's (I gave up on Xenoblade 2 for this reason) and a good FF to introduce your kids to if thats your thing.

My only concern was how Square needed to release a 2-hour movie on Blu-ray as a prologue to the game, had a great cast with the likes of Aaron Paul, Sean Bean and Lena Headey but fail to carry them over to the main game.

It's also either £5 secondhand or free on game pass so worth your time.

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by No:1 Final Fantasy Fan » Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:46 pm

Haven't downloaded this yet...my user name is so irrelevant now haha.
Anyway I heard this is possibly the only game in the FFVII remake. Hopefully it's a new story with a solid ending based in Midgar and not an ending waiting for part 2 which will possibly never come out as they are not currently working on it.
Also I pronounce Mako as Mack Ko too as it is Japanese. Mayko would be the british way of saying something in Japanese. So to be fair they have pronounced it correctly as the producers intended.

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by BOR » Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:30 pm

Tried it last night and I really enjoyed it.

Is it just me that the classic mode seem pointless? I thought it would be a proper old turn based RPG but it wasn't?

Will give it another go tonight.

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by Hexx » Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:32 pm

BOR wrote:Tried it last night and I really enjoyed it.

Is it just me that the classic mode seem pointless? I thought it would be a proper old turn based RPG but it wasn't?

Will give it another go tonight.


Saves you Hammering "Attack" a lot - but that seemed to be it

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by Vermilion » Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:52 am

BOR wrote:Tried it last night and I really enjoyed it.

Is it just me that the classic mode seem pointless? I thought it would be a proper old turn based RPG but it wasn't?


I tried it yesterday too.

The graphics were great, the setting and atmosphere was just as i had hoped, but the battle system was a mess.

I chose 'classic' on the assumption it would mean a return to turn based combat, but it wasn't. As a result i found the boss battle to be a confusing mash of attacking with an occasional spell, and i was left massively disappointed by it.

I probably won't be buying.

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by BOR » Thu Mar 05, 2020 12:47 pm

Vermilion wrote:
BOR wrote:Tried it last night and I really enjoyed it.

Is it just me that the classic mode seem pointless? I thought it would be a proper old turn based RPG but it wasn't?


I tried it yesterday too.

The graphics were great, the setting and atmosphere was just as i had hoped, but the battle system was a mess.

I chose 'classic' on the assumption it would mean a return to turn based combat, but it wasn't. As a result i found the boss battle to be a confusing mash of attacking with an occasional spell, and i was left massively disappointed by it.

I probably won't be buying.

Apparently you don't have to attack or defend manually in classic mode as they will be doing themselves except you can command them what to do like ATB, Limit and etc.

It was fairly easy and boring I may add. You should give it a go and see how it works properly. :lol:

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PostRe: Final Fantasy VII Remake (PS4) | Demo - Out Now
by KK » Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:56 pm

Played this tonight. Lasts just shy of an hour.

Opted for Normal difficulty. Now considering the last time I played one of these things was back in 2002 (FF X) I didn’t have any issues with defeating the boss at all (it does overstay its welcome mind you by a good 5 minutes). Now, I’d forgotten how to block by this point, but otherwise the editor from Kotaku is talking out of his arse.

I don’t want to commit but I may buy it on PS5, even though it does look bloody brilliant on the Pro now.

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