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by sawyerpip » Sun May 10, 2020 8:31 am

Can someone explain if I'm misunderstanding the ending?

I don't get why they were fighting the whispers when, apart from Aeris dying, the party is successful and they beat Sephiroth and Shinra to save the planet in the original timeline. It seemed to me that the creators were saying 'we want to leave things open to change and aren't going to do a remake going forward'?

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by Fade » Sun May 10, 2020 8:50 am

sawyerpip wrote:Can someone explain if I'm misunderstanding the ending?

I don't get why they were fighting the whispers when, apart from Aeris dying, the party is successful and they beat Sephiroth and Shinra to save the planet in the original timeline. It seemed to me that the creators were saying 'we want to leave things open to change and aren't going to do a remake going forward'?

The original FF7 ending shows Midgar being overgrown by plants and decaying.

We know this didn't happen right after the original game as because the characters still live there during Advent Children.

So the implication is that the original FF7 ending caused something to happen after Advent Children that wiped out human life or greatly reduced it (given that Midgar has the higher concentration of people on Gaia outside of Wutai)

That's why Red says "a glimpse at what will happen if we fail here today"

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by sawyerpip » Sun May 10, 2020 8:55 am

Fade wrote:
sawyerpip wrote:Can someone explain if I'm misunderstanding the ending?

I don't get why they were fighting the whispers when, apart from Aeris dying, the party is successful and they beat Sephiroth and Shinra to save the planet in the original timeline. It seemed to me that the creators were saying 'we want to leave things open to change and aren't going to do a remake going forward'?

The original FF7 ending shows Midgar being overgrown by plants and decaying.

We know this didn't happen right after the original game as because the characters still live there during Advent Children.

So the implication is that the original FF7 ending caused something to happen after Advent Children that wiped out human life or greatly reduced it (given that Midgar has the higher concentration of people on Gaia outside of Wutai)

That's why Red says "a glimpse at what will happen if we fail here today"


I thought that was the whole point of the original though? You save the planet and in future years the cities are deserted and nature has taken over again. I don't understand why the characters are trying to stop that. I didn't really bother with Advent Children so I'm just going from the game.

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PostRe: Final Fantasy VII Remake (PS4) | Demo - Out Now
by Fade » Sun May 10, 2020 8:56 am

sawyerpip wrote:
Fade wrote:
sawyerpip wrote:Can someone explain if I'm misunderstanding the ending?

I don't get why they were fighting the whispers when, apart from Aeris dying, the party is successful and they beat Sephiroth and Shinra to save the planet in the original timeline. It seemed to me that the creators were saying 'we want to leave things open to change and aren't going to do a remake going forward'?

The original FF7 ending shows Midgar being overgrown by plants and decaying.

We know this didn't happen right after the original game as because the characters still live there during Advent Children.

So the implication is that the original FF7 ending caused something to happen after Advent Children that wiped out human life or greatly reduced it (given that Midgar has the higher concentration of people on Gaia outside of Wutai)

That's why Red says "a glimpse at what will happen if we fail here today"


I thought that was the whole point of the original though? You save the planet and in future years the cities are deserted and nature has taken over again. I don't understand why the characters are trying to stop that. I didn't really bother with Advent Children so I'm just going from the game.

Because maybe they don't what a bunch of people to die? :lol:

I don't think a whole city of people would just abandon it and go love in the woods. The implication is that something happened to them.

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by sawyerpip » Sun May 10, 2020 9:01 am

Fade wrote:
sawyerpip wrote:
Fade wrote:
sawyerpip wrote:Can someone explain if I'm misunderstanding the ending?

I don't get why they were fighting the whispers when, apart from Aeris dying, the party is successful and they beat Sephiroth and Shinra to save the planet in the original timeline. It seemed to me that the creators were saying 'we want to leave things open to change and aren't going to do a remake going forward'?

The original FF7 ending shows Midgar being overgrown by plants and decaying.

We know this didn't happen right after the original game as because the characters still live there during Advent Children.

So the implication is that the original FF7 ending caused something to happen after Advent Children that wiped out human life or greatly reduced it (given that Midgar has the higher concentration of people on Gaia outside of Wutai)

That's why Red says "a glimpse at what will happen if we fail here today"


I thought that was the whole point of the original though? You save the planet and in future years the cities are deserted and nature has taken over again. I don't understand why the characters are trying to stop that. I didn't really bother with Advent Children so I'm just going from the game.

Because maybe they don't what a bunch of people to die? :lol:

I don't think a whole city of people would just abandon it and go love in the woods. The implication is that something happened to them.


Who says a bunch of people die? The original just suggests that humans turn away from technology and start living more in tune with the planet.

EDIT: just seen you have edited your post. I don't think there is any implication anything happened to the people. I saw it as the culmination of Avalanche's whole philosophy, the world is now more like Cosmo Canyon. Again I did not watch Advent Children, but I always thought that was clearly the point of the original.

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PostRe: Final Fantasy VII Remake (PS4) | Demo - Out Now
by Fade » Sun May 10, 2020 9:07 am

sawyerpip wrote:
Fade wrote:
sawyerpip wrote:
Fade wrote:
sawyerpip wrote:Can someone explain if I'm misunderstanding the ending?

I don't get why they were fighting the whispers when, apart from Aeris dying, the party is successful and they beat Sephiroth and Shinra to save the planet in the original timeline. It seemed to me that the creators were saying 'we want to leave things open to change and aren't going to do a remake going forward'?

The original FF7 ending shows Midgar being overgrown by plants and decaying.

We know this didn't happen right after the original game as because the characters still live there during Advent Children.

So the implication is that the original FF7 ending caused something to happen after Advent Children that wiped out human life or greatly reduced it (given that Midgar has the higher concentration of people on Gaia outside of Wutai)

That's why Red says "a glimpse at what will happen if we fail here today"


I thought that was the whole point of the original though? You save the planet and in future years the cities are deserted and nature has taken over again. I don't understand why the characters are trying to stop that. I didn't really bother with Advent Children so I'm just going from the game.

Because maybe they don't what a bunch of people to die? :lol:

I don't think a whole city of people would just abandon it and go love in the woods. The implication is that something happened to them.


Who says a bunch of people die? The original just suggests that humans turn away from technology and start living more in tune with the planet.

EDIT: just seen you have edited your post. I don't think there is any implication anything happened to the people. I saw it as the culmination of Avalanche's whole philosophy, the world is now more like Cosmo Canyon. Again I did not watch Advent Children, but I always thought that was clearly the point of the original.

Maybe you should watch advent children then?

Given the way they address it and the fact tons of people are still living there in advent children something clearly happened or Red wouldn't be so worried about it.

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by sawyerpip » Sun May 10, 2020 9:12 am

Fade wrote:
sawyerpip wrote:
Fade wrote:
sawyerpip wrote:
Fade wrote:
sawyerpip wrote:Can someone explain if I'm misunderstanding the ending?

I don't get why they were fighting the whispers when, apart from Aeris dying, the party is successful and they beat Sephiroth and Shinra to save the planet in the original timeline. It seemed to me that the creators were saying 'we want to leave things open to change and aren't going to do a remake going forward'?

The original FF7 ending shows Midgar being overgrown by plants and decaying.

We know this didn't happen right after the original game as because the characters still live there during Advent Children.

So the implication is that the original FF7 ending caused something to happen after Advent Children that wiped out human life or greatly reduced it (given that Midgar has the higher concentration of people on Gaia outside of Wutai)

That's why Red says "a glimpse at what will happen if we fail here today"


I thought that was the whole point of the original though? You save the planet and in future years the cities are deserted and nature has taken over again. I don't understand why the characters are trying to stop that. I didn't really bother with Advent Children so I'm just going from the game.

Because maybe they don't what a bunch of people to die? :lol:

I don't think a whole city of people would just abandon it and go love in the woods. The implication is that something happened to them.


Who says a bunch of people die? The original just suggests that humans turn away from technology and start living more in tune with the planet.

EDIT: just seen you have edited your post. I don't think there is any implication anything happened to the people. I saw it as the culmination of Avalanche's whole philosophy, the world is now more like Cosmo Canyon. Again I did not watch Advent Children, but I always thought that was clearly the point of the original.

Maybe you should watch advent children then?

Given the way they address it and the fact tons of people are still living there in advent children something clearly happened or Red wouldn't be so worried about it.


Can you explain what Red is worried about? You're basically saying that in the original, despite beating Sephiroth and saving the planet it's actually a bad ending because of something that happens in a sequel film that was never planned. That makes no sense. Taking the original as it stands, I don't understand why the characters would be unhappy with the outcome. As far as I'm aware the only flashforwards in the game were to things that happened in the original. Were there any flashforwards to the events of Advent Children?

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PostRe: Final Fantasy VII Remake (PS4) | Demo - Out Now
by Fade » Sun May 10, 2020 9:20 am

sawyerpip wrote:
Fade wrote:
sawyerpip wrote:
Fade wrote:
sawyerpip wrote:
Fade wrote:
sawyerpip wrote:Can someone explain if I'm misunderstanding the ending?

I don't get why they were fighting the whispers when, apart from Aeris dying, the party is successful and they beat Sephiroth and Shinra to save the planet in the original timeline. It seemed to me that the creators were saying 'we want to leave things open to change and aren't going to do a remake going forward'?

The original FF7 ending shows Midgar being overgrown by plants and decaying.

We know this didn't happen right after the original game as because the characters still live there during Advent Children.

So the implication is that the original FF7 ending caused something to happen after Advent Children that wiped out human life or greatly reduced it (given that Midgar has the higher concentration of people on Gaia outside of Wutai)

That's why Red says "a glimpse at what will happen if we fail here today"


I thought that was the whole point of the original though? You save the planet and in future years the cities are deserted and nature has taken over again. I don't understand why the characters are trying to stop that. I didn't really bother with Advent Children so I'm just going from the game.

Because maybe they don't what a bunch of people to die? :lol:

I don't think a whole city of people would just abandon it and go love in the woods. The implication is that something happened to them.


Who says a bunch of people die? The original just suggests that humans turn away from technology and start living more in tune with the planet.

EDIT: just seen you have edited your post. I don't think there is any implication anything happened to the people. I saw it as the culmination of Avalanche's whole philosophy, the world is now more like Cosmo Canyon. Again I did not watch Advent Children, but I always thought that was clearly the point of the original.

Maybe you should watch advent children then?

Given the way they address it and the fact tons of people are still living there in advent children something clearly happened or Red wouldn't be so worried about it.


Can you explain what Red is worried about? You're basically saying that in the original, despite beating Sephiroth and saving the planet it's actually a bad ending because of something that happens in a sequel film that was never planned. That makes no sense. Taking the original as it stands, I don't understand why the characters would be unhappy with the outcome. As far as I'm aware the only flashforwards in the game were to things that happened in the original. Were there any flashforwards to the events of Advent Children?

Seems to me like you don't actually want me to explain anything.

The original ending is very ambiguous, but it's clear from Remake they've tried to give it more negative connotations.

If you don't understand it or like it I can't really do much about that.

Whether you like it or not a bunch of people don't just randomly get up a leave the biggest city on a planet without a really good reason. There's plenty of room for them to explain what might have happened in that time frame.

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PostRe: Final Fantasy VII Remake (PS4) | Demo - Out Now
by sawyerpip » Sun May 10, 2020 9:34 am

Fade wrote:
sawyerpip wrote:
Fade wrote:
sawyerpip wrote:
Fade wrote:
sawyerpip wrote:
Fade wrote:
sawyerpip wrote:Can someone explain if I'm misunderstanding the ending?

I don't get why they were fighting the whispers when, apart from Aeris dying, the party is successful and they beat Sephiroth and Shinra to save the planet in the original timeline. It seemed to me that the creators were saying 'we want to leave things open to change and aren't going to do a remake going forward'?

The original FF7 ending shows Midgar being overgrown by plants and decaying.

We know this didn't happen right after the original game as because the characters still live there during Advent Children.

So the implication is that the original FF7 ending caused something to happen after Advent Children that wiped out human life or greatly reduced it (given that Midgar has the higher concentration of people on Gaia outside of Wutai)

That's why Red says "a glimpse at what will happen if we fail here today"


I thought that was the whole point of the original though? You save the planet and in future years the cities are deserted and nature has taken over again. I don't understand why the characters are trying to stop that. I didn't really bother with Advent Children so I'm just going from the game.

Because maybe they don't what a bunch of people to die? :lol:

I don't think a whole city of people would just abandon it and go love in the woods. The implication is that something happened to them.


Who says a bunch of people die? The original just suggests that humans turn away from technology and start living more in tune with the planet.

EDIT: just seen you have edited your post. I don't think there is any implication anything happened to the people. I saw it as the culmination of Avalanche's whole philosophy, the world is now more like Cosmo Canyon. Again I did not watch Advent Children, but I always thought that was clearly the point of the original.

Maybe you should watch advent children then?

Given the way they address it and the fact tons of people are still living there in advent children something clearly happened or Red wouldn't be so worried about it.


Can you explain what Red is worried about? You're basically saying that in the original, despite beating Sephiroth and saving the planet it's actually a bad ending because of something that happens in a sequel film that was never planned. That makes no sense. Taking the original as it stands, I don't understand why the characters would be unhappy with the outcome. As far as I'm aware the only flashforwards in the game were to things that happened in the original. Were there any flashforwards to the events of Advent Children?

Seems to me like you don't actually want me to explain anything.

The original ending is very ambiguous, but it's clear from Remake they've tried to give it more negative connotations.

If you don't understand it or like it I can't really do much about that.

Whether you like it or not a bunch of people don't just randomly get up a leave the biggest city on a planet without a really good reason. There's plenty of room for them to explain what might have happened in that time frame.


Seems to me like you're being condescending when trying to explain things but doing a really bad job of it.

I don't think it's clear at all from the remake why they are trying to stop the events of the original game, hence my first question, and I don't think any of your explanations have made it make any more sense. There is no reference to Advent Children in the game, or to events that occur after the original (and before Red's epilogue). I thought I may have missed something as to why what happens in the original is apparently bad, but based on your answers I haven't missed anything.

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PostRe: Final Fantasy VII Remake (PS4) | Demo - Out Now
by Fade » Sun May 10, 2020 10:34 am

sawyerpip wrote:
Fade wrote:
sawyerpip wrote:
Fade wrote:
sawyerpip wrote:
Fade wrote:
sawyerpip wrote:
Fade wrote:
sawyerpip wrote:Can someone explain if I'm misunderstanding the ending?

I don't get why they were fighting the whispers when, apart from Aeris dying, the party is successful and they beat Sephiroth and Shinra to save the planet in the original timeline. It seemed to me that the creators were saying 'we want to leave things open to change and aren't going to do a remake going forward'?

The original FF7 ending shows Midgar being overgrown by plants and decaying.

We know this didn't happen right after the original game as because the characters still live there during Advent Children.

So the implication is that the original FF7 ending caused something to happen after Advent Children that wiped out human life or greatly reduced it (given that Midgar has the higher concentration of people on Gaia outside of Wutai)

That's why Red says "a glimpse at what will happen if we fail here today"


I thought that was the whole point of the original though? You save the planet and in future years the cities are deserted and nature has taken over again. I don't understand why the characters are trying to stop that. I didn't really bother with Advent Children so I'm just going from the game.

Because maybe they don't what a bunch of people to die? :lol:

I don't think a whole city of people would just abandon it and go love in the woods. The implication is that something happened to them.


Who says a bunch of people die? The original just suggests that humans turn away from technology and start living more in tune with the planet.

EDIT: just seen you have edited your post. I don't think there is any implication anything happened to the people. I saw it as the culmination of Avalanche's whole philosophy, the world is now more like Cosmo Canyon. Again I did not watch Advent Children, but I always thought that was clearly the point of the original.

Maybe you should watch advent children then?

Given the way they address it and the fact tons of people are still living there in advent children something clearly happened or Red wouldn't be so worried about it.


Can you explain what Red is worried about? You're basically saying that in the original, despite beating Sephiroth and saving the planet it's actually a bad ending because of something that happens in a sequel film that was never planned. That makes no sense. Taking the original as it stands, I don't understand why the characters would be unhappy with the outcome. As far as I'm aware the only flashforwards in the game were to things that happened in the original. Were there any flashforwards to the events of Advent Children?

Seems to me like you don't actually want me to explain anything.

The original ending is very ambiguous, but it's clear from Remake they've tried to give it more negative connotations.

If you don't understand it or like it I can't really do much about that.

Whether you like it or not a bunch of people don't just randomly get up a leave the biggest city on a planet without a really good reason. There's plenty of room for them to explain what might have happened in that time frame.


Seems to me like you're being condescending when trying to explain things but doing a really bad job of it.

I don't think it's clear at all from the remake why they are trying to stop the events of the original game, hence my first question, and I don't think any of your explanations have made it make any more sense. There is no reference to Advent Children in the game, or to events that occur after the original (and before Red's epilogue). I thought I may have missed something as to why what happens in the original is apparently bad, but based on your answers I haven't missed anything.


No I'm not, you just have a very concrete view of what you thought the ending of the original game meant which is why you're having trouble understanding how it fits into this game.

There's no direct reference, but the 3 mini bosses you fight are derived from the 3 villains in advent children and advent children shows that people carried on living there after the events of the original game (which is why I keep bringing it up), that means something else must have happened to either make them move, or wipe them out.

Advent children came out in 2006 so I wouldn't be surprised if they had some idea what that thing might be while making that film, especially given the fact they even show the original ending right at the start(in fact a lot of the clips they show in remake are from Advent Children)

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PostRe: Final Fantasy VII Remake (PS4) | Demo - Out Now
by Buffalo » Sun May 10, 2020 11:26 am

Have you met Fade before, mate?

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by Fade » Sun May 10, 2020 12:14 pm

Buffalo wrote:Have you met Fade before, mate?

What was the point of this?

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PostRe: Final Fantasy VII Remake (PS4) | Demo - Out Now
by sawyerpip » Sun May 10, 2020 1:14 pm

Fade wrote:
sawyerpip wrote:
Fade wrote:
sawyerpip wrote:
Fade wrote:
sawyerpip wrote:
Fade wrote:
sawyerpip wrote:
Fade wrote:
sawyerpip wrote:Can someone explain if I'm misunderstanding the ending?

I don't get why they were fighting the whispers when, apart from Aeris dying, the party is successful and they beat Sephiroth and Shinra to save the planet in the original timeline. It seemed to me that the creators were saying 'we want to leave things open to change and aren't going to do a remake going forward'?

The original FF7 ending shows Midgar being overgrown by plants and decaying.

We know this didn't happen right after the original game as because the characters still live there during Advent Children.

So the implication is that the original FF7 ending caused something to happen after Advent Children that wiped out human life or greatly reduced it (given that Midgar has the higher concentration of people on Gaia outside of Wutai)

That's why Red says "a glimpse at what will happen if we fail here today"


I thought that was the whole point of the original though? You save the planet and in future years the cities are deserted and nature has taken over again. I don't understand why the characters are trying to stop that. I didn't really bother with Advent Children so I'm just going from the game.

Because maybe they don't what a bunch of people to die? :lol:

I don't think a whole city of people would just abandon it and go love in the woods. The implication is that something happened to them.


Who says a bunch of people die? The original just suggests that humans turn away from technology and start living more in tune with the planet.

EDIT: just seen you have edited your post. I don't think there is any implication anything happened to the people. I saw it as the culmination of Avalanche's whole philosophy, the world is now more like Cosmo Canyon. Again I did not watch Advent Children, but I always thought that was clearly the point of the original.

Maybe you should watch advent children then?

Given the way they address it and the fact tons of people are still living there in advent children something clearly happened or Red wouldn't be so worried about it.


Can you explain what Red is worried about? You're basically saying that in the original, despite beating Sephiroth and saving the planet it's actually a bad ending because of something that happens in a sequel film that was never planned. That makes no sense. Taking the original as it stands, I don't understand why the characters would be unhappy with the outcome. As far as I'm aware the only flashforwards in the game were to things that happened in the original. Were there any flashforwards to the events of Advent Children?

Seems to me like you don't actually want me to explain anything.

The original ending is very ambiguous, but it's clear from Remake they've tried to give it more negative connotations.

If you don't understand it or like it I can't really do much about that.

Whether you like it or not a bunch of people don't just randomly get up a leave the biggest city on a planet without a really good reason. There's plenty of room for them to explain what might have happened in that time frame.


Seems to me like you're being condescending when trying to explain things but doing a really bad job of it.

I don't think it's clear at all from the remake why they are trying to stop the events of the original game, hence my first question, and I don't think any of your explanations have made it make any more sense. There is no reference to Advent Children in the game, or to events that occur after the original (and before Red's epilogue). I thought I may have missed something as to why what happens in the original is apparently bad, but based on your answers I haven't missed anything.


No I'm not, you just have a very concrete view of what you thought the ending of the original game meant which is why you're having trouble understanding how it fits into this game.

There's no direct reference, but the 3 mini bosses you fight are derived from the 3 villains in advent children and advent children shows that people carried on living there after the events of the original game (which is why I keep bringing it up), that means something else must have happened to either make them move, or wipe them out.

Advent children came out in 2006 so I wouldn't be surprised if they had some idea what that thing might be while making that film, especially given the fact they even show the original ending right at the start(in fact a lot of the clips they show in remake are from Advent Children)


Yeah you are. "Maybe they don't want want a load of people to die :lol: "if you don't understand it or like it..." and "maybe you should watch Advent Children then?" are all condescending comments and make you come across like a dick to be honest.

Isn't the epilogue with Red like 500 years later? I didn't play the game thinking that you beat Sephiroth and everyone suddenly left Midgar the next day, I just took the implication that it was a gradual process. If the game is trying to tell you that the events they are trying to change all occur after the events of the original then I feel like they did a really bad job of it, and also it makes the original storyline kind of pointless. I didn't see Red's line or the party's actions directly tied to that one vision of Midgar. They seem adamant to stop these whispers of fate without any real understanding of what actually occurred originally.

I said I didn't watch Advent Children earlier as it was easier but I did see it when it originally came out, just I remembered absolutely nothing of the plot. I did read up on a synopsis after completing the remake and I can't see how it has much of a bearing on the remake. The plot synopsis also reminded me why I forgot all about it :lol:

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PostRe: Final Fantasy VII Remake (PS4) | Demo - Out Now
by Peter Crisp » Sun May 10, 2020 3:03 pm

It's a rubbish story design decision anyway if you have to watch other content on TV (and not even recent content at that) to help make sense of the ending of a game.
I would be really pissed off if I finished a film and then had to play a game for the ending to make sense.

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by Wedgie » Mon May 11, 2020 12:13 pm

Might rewatch FFVII Advent Children as I don’t remember anything.

Anyway, that’s the game finished.

My thoughts:

The graphics is breathtaking overall, especially the main characters. The minor characters does really stand out. There are some questionable low quality textures in the background, but it doesn’t deter me that much. The boss and most enemies designs remains very faithful to the original which pleases me.

The combat system is wonderful. I can’t fault it much. The materia system works very well. I wonder if they will let us transfer them over to the next part, and don’t reset everything back to zero like most games do (Batman Arkham Series, Metroid Prime trilogy, and many others does this.)

The storyline is great. Almost 100% faithful, the new characters are merely ok (only one that is very memorable is the typical motorbike bad-boy anime persona Soldier, Rouch.) The cloaked ones I remember barely from Advent Children.

Roll on to the next part. Let’s hope that they don’t take so long this time.

9/10

Just have to polish off some trophies apart from Hard Mode which will have to wait after I’ve gone back and replay the original.

A must have game for any FFVII fan.

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by Jenuall » Mon May 11, 2020 11:57 pm

Finally managed to power through and get past chapter 14. :dread:

It gets good again now yeah?

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PostRe: Final Fantasy VII Remake (PS4) | Demo - Out Now
by aayl1 » Tue May 12, 2020 8:34 am

sawyerpip wrote:Can someone explain if I'm misunderstanding the ending?

I don't get why they were fighting the whispers when, apart from Aeris dying, the party is successful and they beat Sephiroth and Shinra to save the planet in the original timeline. It seemed to me that the creators were saying 'we want to leave things open to change and aren't going to do a remake going forward'?


So here's my thoughts on why they were fighting them.

So, put yourself in the position of the characters.

I think they don't actually know the future. They just know that it's predetermined. They get mild glimpses of bad things to come (Aerith dying etc) and from where they're standing now, a "predetermined destiny" looks like it massively favours Shinra /Sephiroth. So if I was in their shoes I'd go "Yeah I don't want a predetermined destiny thanks".

Also, my flatmate who played the original and watched me play this said that while the FF7 ending was "good", you went through a lot of gooseberry fool stuff to get there and you could definitely do better. Like rolling a 4 on a dice - deffo worth rerolling to try and get a 5 or 6,right?


Anywho that's my take on it!

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PostRe: Final Fantasy VII Remake (PS4) | Demo - Out Now
by Jenuall » Fri May 15, 2020 6:05 pm

Jenuall wrote:Finally managed to power through and get past chapter 14. :dread:

It gets good again now yeah?

Well to answer my own question - hell yeah it gets good again! :lol:

How is there such a difference in quality across the various chapters in this? Some parts are absolute gold whilst others are such a chore! :lol:

Still in Shinra tower and more hints at what is going on in the story have been dripping in. If what they've done is what I think at this point then I will stand up and applaud when the credits roll...

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PostRe: Final Fantasy VII Remake (PS4) | Demo - Out Now
by KK » Fri May 15, 2020 6:17 pm

7/10 in this month's EDGE. Which seems extremely harsh to me.

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PostRe: Final Fantasy VII Remake (PS4) | Demo - Out Now
by Zilnad » Fri May 15, 2020 7:26 pm

Yeah, that's incredibly harsh. Edge is gooseberry fool anyway.


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