Rumour: PS5 Pro launching "second half of 2024"

People who don't buy a PS5 Pro and can afford it ... are they just boring and lazy?

Jenuall wrote:People who don't buy a PS5 Pro and can afford it ... are they just boring and lazy?

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(It was even worse as the original post didn't have the "and can afford it" bit!)

I never got PS4 pro due to already having Playstation 4 that was doing well and even though it already pushed to limits with some games so I could see need for PS4 pro, it just was bit too much money to drop on when I already have working console. This however. As others have said I don't feel anything has pushed limits on PS5 yet, and as someone said in this very thread, games first! I'm enjoying my PS5 but I'm not going to lie it was basically "PS4 Pro" for me as I've been using it to play my PS4 games and ability to play PS5 games exists lol.

I'm struggling to think of words but I do know I've already said it in other thread that was made by Jawa that PS5 doesn't seem to capture what makes PS3/PS4 great - Like there was so many Sony first party developed games and also fair amount of third party games that really made these consoles amazing - and instead... Sony killed off lot of their IPs and developers, and nowadays it feels like games that I even enjoy *must* have some kind of live service tied to it (looking at you Street Fighter 6) and if that's what future brings for PS5 I can't imagine myself wanting to get PS6 for long, long, long time.

So yeah, the fact they're possibly doing PS5 pro is just weird when there's not many games that can take benefit of it at huge price jump and the fact there's not many games that makes Playstation amazing around lately.

Maybe gaming has evolved to be this and honestly since I can play old games I guess I'll just see it as it not being for me that much. I can't really imagine game annoucements being exiciting this year either.

For myself who has alot of PS4 and early PS5 games still to get through it would not be worth the outlay as can't see many devs updating them with RT etc. I am happy with performance levels on the PS5 with VRR enabled.

Gran Turismo in 8K, 15 USB ports, £900 launch price, lets goooo, Crazy Ken is back baby.

Jenuall wrote:People who don't buy a PS5 Pro and can afford it ... are they just boring and lazy?

They should certainly not be allowed to play online games as they obviously hate Sony .

KK wrote:Gran Turismo in 8K, 15 USB ports, £900 launch price, lets goooo, Crazy Ken is back baby.

I would actually like to see Sony release a modern version of the Neo Geo and try and stick the best hardware in a console.

£900 would get them a pretty amazing spec sheet and I'd be interested to see how it sold.
Obviously, it would be a disaster but how much of a disaster?
Could it sell 10m units on brand alone even at that price?

Peter Crisp wrote:I would actually like to see Sony release a modern version of the Neo Geo and try and stick the best hardware in a console.

£900 would get them a pretty amazing spec sheet and I'd be interested to see how it sold.
Obviously, it would be a disaster but how much of a disaster?
Could it sell 10m units on brand alone even at that price?

I very much hope that we don't end up having £900 consoles. I do fear that Sony and Microsoft are trying to turn console gaming into PC gaming; not by copying the positive things related to that but by introducing the not-so-good aspects such as expensive systems, expensive add-ons and losing that "every system delivers consistent performance" approach that, historically, has been core to console gaming.

jawa_ wrote:d up having £900 consoles. I do fear that Sony and Microsoft are trying to turn console gaming into PC gaming; not by copying the positive things related to that but by introducing the not-so-good aspects such as expensive systems, expensive add-ons and losing that "every system delivers consistent performance" approach that, historically, has been core to console gaming.

How about as a luxury version of the next gen?
The base version at £400 and a super duper £900 version?

We know the tech exists to make a more powerful console at launch as it's always about how much bang they can afford with what's available.
I'd be interested to see what the market is for the luxury offering.

I have never owned a Pro console. Unless my standard PS5 broke, I don't see the appeal. Then again, I don't have a 4k television yet, so it's probably not aimed at me!

Nothing have really pushed the PS5 beyond its capabilities so I may skip the PS5 Pro.

Even the rumours say it’s for boosting GTA6 and I’m not even remotely interested in the game. Lost interest after GTA San Andreas.

Sprouty wrote:I have never owned a Pro console. Unless my standard PS5 broke, I don't see the appeal. Then again, I don't have a 4k television yet, so it's probably not aimed at me!

Same. I'll get 4K TV one day but not anytime soon as I just got new TV which only does 1080p (I didn't have my old tv anymore, long story, wanted one so I saw this TV and went for it. Very happy with it)

It's crazy how there's talks about 8k already when I don't really see need for that. 4k yeah, makes sense but not 8k!

Sprouty wrote:I have never owned a Pro console. Unless my standard PS5 broke, I don't see the appeal. Then again, I don't have a 4k television yet, so it's probably not aimed at me!

I only bought one because it was £30 more in cex for double the HDD space. I can’t say if it makes a tremendous difference to graphics or performance. Fortnite certainly doesn’t run quite as well as it did on the Series S.

It does seem better at the backend stuff like queuing downloads properly though.

I got the PS4 Pro at launch back in 2016 and I was impressed right away; The Last Guardian arrived around the same time and it ran much better on the Pro. In subsequent years it has performed well and I'd place it as my all-time fave console.

The 8k talk is marketing. Very few games run 4k native and are largely upscaled. Digital foundry are pretty good are identifying source res in their videos.

I remember when the PlayStation 3 launched, if you wanted to be at the cutting edge there was a benefit to purchasing a (very expensive) 1080p TV in 2007 because of Blu Ray movies and a few notable games (Ridge Racer 7 and Virtua Tennis 3). The same was repeated again with the PlayStation 4 Pro and 4K TVs, albeit without the Ultra Blu Ray (Xbox One X at least had this additional benefit). The same can’t be said of the 8K marketing on the PS5 and inevitably the PS5 Pro however. Unless Sony themselves are going to surprise us between now and launch, there is currently nothing available in 8K aside from a few videos on YouTube. You’d also have to decide whether having a game at 4K with better graphics, HDR and framerates is far more appealing than attempting to run a game at 8K with HDR and other graphical enhancements turned off.

To see the real benefits of 8K also means cranking up the screen size to at least 65”, which is another barrier to consumer entry. I can guarantee you that if you buy an 8K TV today by the time 8K actually takes off your TV will also be out of date. There are some potentially exciting developments coming in the TV space this year (from Sony themselves in fact, if they actually pull off their extremely bold claims of matching OLED picture quality using Mini LED) but 8K isn’t one of them.

Monkey Man wrote:

twitter.com/_Tom_Henderson_/status/1768749840823927140

Today’s leaked documents also confirmed:

Rendering 45% faster than PS5
2-3x Ray-tracing (x4 in some cases)
33.5 Teraflops
PSSR (PlayStation Spectral Super Resolution Upscaling) upscaling/antialiasing solution
Support for resolutions up to 8K is planned for future SDK version
Custom machine learning architecture
AI Accelerator, supporting 300 TOPS of 8 bit computation / 67 TFLOPS of 16-bit floating point

Insider Gaming, who was also shared documentation from the developer portal under the condition that it’s not shared publically or privately can also confirm that Devkits have been available to first-party studios since September 2023, third-party since January 2024, and from Spring 2024 Testkits will also be available which will be identical to the final product.

Insider Gaming understands that the PS5 Pro is currently aiming for a tentative holiday 2024 release, but the date could be changed due to the lack of first-party games released on the PlayStation 5 this year.

PS5 pro has no gaems confirmed.

jawa_ wrote:I got the PS4 Pro at launch back in 2016 and I was impressed right away; The Last Guardian arrived around the same time and it ran much better on the Pro. In subsequent years it has performed well and I'd place it as my all-time fave console.

I got the XOX as I didn't have the XBO. It was my entry into gamepass and as such was my best value console ever as they were practically giving away subs for silly prices back then.

I instantly stacked 3 years for about £100 if I remember.
Great times.

Following this week’s leaks on the PlayStation 5 Pro GPU specs and performance targets, Insider Gaming has learned more PlayStation 5 Pro specs. For comparison sake, we’ll also include the specifications of the Standard PlayStation 5.

System Memory

Standard PlayStation 5 – 448 GB/s (14 GT/s)
PlayStation 5 Pro – 576 GB/s (18GT/s) – A 28% increase over the standard console.

Also outlined is that the PlayStation 5 Pro’s system memory is more efficient than the standard console, so the bandwidth gain may increase by over 28%.

CPU

The CPU is identical to the standard PlayStation 5, however, the Pro has a ‘High CPU Frequency Mode”, which takes the CPU to 3.85GHz – A 10% increase over the standard console.

In High CPU Frequency Mode, more power is allocated to the CPU and will downclock the GPU by around 1.5%, resulting in roughly 1% lower GPU performance.

Audio

The ACV in the PlayStation 5 Pro runs at a higher clock speed over the standard PlayStation 5, resulting in the ACM library having 35% more performance.

More convolution reverbs can be processed
More FFT or IFFT can be processed

https://insider-gaming.com/playstation- ... ore-specs/

Sounds more like a machine that’ll be about £100 more than the regular PS5 rather than some ultra premium offering.