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From resetera

I'm actually pretty disappointed with this discovery. Venus was the prime candidate for terrforming. If there's life there I can't see that happening.

Karl_ wrote:It's worth waiting a bit before getting too excited

strawberry float that,

Victor Mildew wrote:

Pedz wrote:I saw something saying there's going g to be a big announcement at 4pm UK time from The Royal Astronomical Society. Supposedly something huge.

Rumours of evidence of life on Venus apparently.

David Bowie is strawberry floating furious.

Victor Mildew wrote:From resetera

I'm actually pretty disappointed with this discovery. Venus was the prime candidate for terrforming. If there's life there I can't see that happening.

What I don't understand is why we wouldn't be looking at building a colony on/in the moon. We have the kind of technology much more readily available (it would be a grounded space station, but on a larger scale which could be self serving) and rather than that people are talking about terraforming which is far, far, far beyond our reach.

Qikz wrote:

Victor Mildew wrote:From resetera

I'm actually pretty disappointed with this discovery. Venus was the prime candidate for terrforming. If there's life there I can't see that happening.

What I don't understand is why we wouldn't be looking at building a colony on/in the moon. We have the kind of technology much more readily available (it would be a grounded space station, but on a larger scale which could be self serving) and rather than that people are talking about terraforming which is far, far, far beyond our reach.

Gravity would play havoc with our bodies over an extended stay on the moon. We'd end up with people unable to ever return to Earth.

Watch The Expanse.

Moggy wrote:

Qikz wrote:

Victor Mildew wrote:From resetera

I'm actually pretty disappointed with this discovery. Venus was the prime candidate for terrforming. If there's life there I can't see that happening.

What I don't understand is why we wouldn't be looking at building a colony on/in the moon. We have the kind of technology much more readily available (it would be a grounded space station, but on a larger scale which could be self serving) and rather than that people are talking about terraforming which is far, far, far beyond our reach.

Gravity would play havoc with our bodies over an extended stay on the moon. We'd end up with people unable to ever return to Earth.

Watch The Expanse.

Gravity is always going to do that. You'd need to work on some form of artificial gravity system or something to get around that.

Eventually there will be humans that won't be able to return to earth and that's ok. There's going to be humans born on planets far away from earth or in space with no need to return here eventually, that's even if there's anything to return to.

Could heightened atmospheric pressure within a lunar colony make up for the lax gravity?

Qikz wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Qikz wrote:

Victor Mildew wrote:From resetera

I'm actually pretty disappointed with this discovery. Venus was the prime candidate for terrforming. If there's life there I can't see that happening.

What I don't understand is why we wouldn't be looking at building a colony on/in the moon. We have the kind of technology much more readily available (it would be a grounded space station, but on a larger scale which could be self serving) and rather than that people are talking about terraforming which is far, far, far beyond our reach.

Gravity would play havoc with our bodies over an extended stay on the moon. We'd end up with people unable to ever return to Earth.

Watch The Expanse.

Gravity is always going to do that. You'd need to work on some form of artificial gravity system or something to get around that.

Eventually there will be humans that won't be able to return to earth and that's ok. There's going to be humans born on planets far away from earth or in space with no need to return here eventually, that's even if there's anything to return to.

Yes but there's a huge difference between being on the moon and on Mars. Martian humans would probably struggle with Earth, Moonian (?) humans would be utterly strawberry floated. And where else could they go? Mars would be too much gravity for people used to the moon.

Yes artificial gravity would solve it. But that doesn't exist. Your point was it's easier to get to the moon, you can't justify that with a sci-fi invention that doesn't yet exist.

I only mentioned female life forms, because I think I saw on QI nothing on Venus is allowed to named after males. So the lifeforms must be female to stick to our strict rules.

Living on other planets is a pretty bad idea. Human physiology is evolved to exist in the very specific conditions found on Earth. If you did want to colonise the rest of the solar system I would prefer to live on an orbital habitat as at least it could be spun to precisely one g and have an artificial day cycle that corresponds to 24 hours.

Meep wrote:Living on other planets is a pretty bad idea. Human physiology is evolved to exist in the very specific conditions found on Earth. If you did want to colonise the rest of the solar system I would prefer to live on an orbital habitat as at least it could be spun to precisely one g and have an artificial day cycle that corresponds to 24 hours.

I can imagine a time in the future where genetic modification will be commonplace for anyone born in non-earth environments, things like bone density and muscle mass could be tailored to suit.

I know we currently find the idea of 'designer babies' morally repulsive but there probably will be a need for it at some point to ensure humanities survival.

Ironhide wrote:

Meep wrote:Living on other planets is a pretty bad idea. Human physiology is evolved to exist in the very specific conditions found on Earth. If you did want to colonise the rest of the solar system I would prefer to live on an orbital habitat as at least it could be spun to precisely one g and have an artificial day cycle that corresponds to 24 hours.

I can imagine a time in the future where genetic modification will be commonplace for anyone born in non-earth environments, things like bone density and muscle mass could be tailored to suit.

I know we currently find the idea of 'designer babies' morally repulsive but there probably will be a need for it at some point to ensure humanities survival.

The perfect slaves. Get them to all the work on the moon or else we'll cut off their air/food/water supply.

And with their genetic modifications, it's not like they could ever escape from the moon to live on Earth.

Moggy wrote:

Ironhide wrote:

Meep wrote:Living on other planets is a pretty bad idea. Human physiology is evolved to exist in the very specific conditions found on Earth. If you did want to colonise the rest of the solar system I would prefer to live on an orbital habitat as at least it could be spun to precisely one g and have an artificial day cycle that corresponds to 24 hours.

I can imagine a time in the future where genetic modification will be commonplace for anyone born in non-earth environments, things like bone density and muscle mass could be tailored to suit.

I know we currently find the idea of 'designer babies' morally repulsive but there probably will be a need for it at some point to ensure humanities survival.

The perfect slaves. Get them to all the work on the moon or else we'll cut off their air/food/water supply.

And with their genetic modifications, it's not like they could ever escape from the moon to live on Earth.

That's what robots are for, I'm sure they'd never become self aware and murder us all.

Ironhide wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Ironhide wrote:

Meep wrote:Living on other planets is a pretty bad idea. Human physiology is evolved to exist in the very specific conditions found on Earth. If you did want to colonise the rest of the solar system I would prefer to live on an orbital habitat as at least it could be spun to precisely one g and have an artificial day cycle that corresponds to 24 hours.

I can imagine a time in the future where genetic modification will be commonplace for anyone born in non-earth environments, things like bone density and muscle mass could be tailored to suit.

I know we currently find the idea of 'designer babies' morally repulsive but there probably will be a need for it at some point to ensure humanities survival.

The perfect slaves. Get them to all the work on the moon or else we'll cut off their air/food/water supply.

And with their genetic modifications, it's not like they could ever escape from the moon to live on Earth.

That's what robots are for, I'm sure they'd never become self aware and murder us all.

Brilliant, no slaves, just the grey goo to look forward to.

Posthuman is the future - if our civilisation is ever to survive and advance beyond our solar system it won't be made up of humans, and hopefully it will be better that way. If we can avoid grey gooing ourselves that'd be great though

Yeah, I don't think humans will ever leave this solar system or live permanently anywhere but Earth. If machine consciousness is ever realised they would be much better positioned to do that than us.

I think humans will colonise the solar system as while it's difficult I don't think it's beyond possibility.
I feel the possibilities for underground communities on Mars is actually quite high and may start in our lifetimes but only on a very basic level with maybe 100 people or so who will try and set the stage for larger settlements in the future.

Space mining will be a thing but that'll all be robots for obvious reasons and space tourism will be a niche but growing trend.

Peter Crisp wrote:I think humans will colonise the solar system as while it's difficult I don't think it's beyond possibility.
I feel the possibilities for underground communities on Mars is actually quite high and may start in our lifetimes but only on a very basic level with maybe 100 people or so who will try and set the stage for larger settlements in the future.

Space mining will be a thing but that'll all be robots for obvious reasons and space tourism will be a niche but growing trend.

Big question though is will Luton establish its own separatist utopuan colony on Mars? If anyone can and should, it's Luton Council.

Preezy wrote:

Peter Crisp wrote:I think humans will colonise the solar system as while it's difficult I don't think it's beyond possibility.
I feel the possibilities for underground communities on Mars is actually quite high and may start in our lifetimes but only on a very basic level with maybe 100 people or so who will try and set the stage for larger settlements in the future.

Space mining will be a thing but that'll all be robots for obvious reasons and space tourism will be a niche but growing trend.

Big question though is will Luton establish its own separatist utopuan colony on Mars? If anyone can and should, it's Luton Council.

Wimbledon will get there first and be better in every way.