Science - strawberry float YEAH

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by OldSoulCyborg » Fri Sep 11, 2015 3:59 pm

Preezy wrote:The science was put their by our lord and saviour Kragnolaaar to test our faith.


Kragnolaaar? That's a strange way to write Jibbers Crabst.

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by Victor Mildew » Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:17 am

That tree one is a joke right?? Surely someone can't think there's only 3 million trees covering the entire planet :fp:

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by Dowbocop » Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:41 am

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Dowbocop wrote:Reading those posts (about SpaceX and Tesla Cars),the cynic in me thought it felt like a massive advertising puff. I thoroughly enjoyed them, and I've absolutely devoured some of the other posts on WBW, but I feel like I've polished Elon Musk's balloon knot by proxy a little bit. I wish his projects every success though, they seem incredible.

I'm a little confused as to why he's jumping straight to Mars instead of aiming for the Moon. I understand the whole backing up the hard drive thing (and the obvious draw of being the first to Mars), but it seems the small incremental method by which his space programme is progressing means it would be best to try out the colonisation and terraforming tech on a body much closer to Earth that has actually been reached before.


I'm not sure that it is advertising on the part of WBW (it almost certainly is from Musk!). The writer is just very optimistic and excited.

I think the timescales are way off and most of it will not happen. But it's interesting, exciting and if Musk only achieved 10% of his goals it will be an amazing advancement.

Inviting friendly journalists into the office is as old as journalism itself, I just read a bit too much Private Eye to be this enthused by a story! I don't think there are any particularly nefarious motives behind the pieces, and if it is advertising they're advertising something I (a) already want, and (b) can't afford, so I'll be okay!

The more I think about it though, the more I think the Moon should be colonised first. Not only is it much easier to get there (days instead of months), it's also a much easier draw to get tourists/colonists out there. It's like going on a supercharged P&O cruise compared to getting on the Mayflower and potentially never coming back. Then people will think "We've been living on the Moon for a while and nobody has died in a barren vacuum, why not Mars?" Lunar colonies will also bring in revenue streams much more quickly, which is good for any business...

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by 1cmanny1 » Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:01 am

Cuban Pete wrote:
Ad7 wrote:That tree one is a joke right?? Surely someone can't think there's only 3 million trees covering the entire planet :fp:



Read it again.


Poor old ad.

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by Victor Mildew » Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:19 am

Why don't you make like a tree, and get outta here.

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by Preezy » Sun Sep 13, 2015 10:25 pm

Those space sounds :dread:

Gonna have space nightmares now :dread: :dread:

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by Preezy » Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:01 am

The video from that waitbutwhy.com article:



I would so love to see the future, I feel like mankind is approaching the next big step and we're just going to miss the boat :(

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by Alvin Flummux » Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:35 am

Mankind might be approaching the next big step for many decades or centuries to come, there's really no way to accurately tell.

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by Preezy » Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:00 pm

I am basing my estimate on what I feel in my waters, which I admit is no precursor to accuracy.

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by False » Fri Oct 30, 2015 1:43 pm

Cancer killing virus enters approval for use as a treatment therapy:

http://arstechnica.co.uk/science/2015/1 ... y-arrived/

Its not a silver bullet, but it proves the method is sound and combined with other treatments could prove very helpful.

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by Cal » Tue Dec 22, 2015 12:48 pm

Genuinely impressed with this:

SpaceX rocket lands safely back on earth
8 hours ago
The private space technology company SpaceX has successfully landed a rocket back on land after a mission into space orbit.
The Falcon-9 rocket came back to earth in an upright position a short distance from where it took off at Cape Canavarel in Florida.
Bill Hayton reports.


[Video] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-35157739

Can't imagine just how technical and complex landing a rocket upright and intact must be to achieve. Well done all. Still wouldn't fly in one, though. :shifty:

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by Moggy » Tue Dec 22, 2015 12:52 pm

Cal wrote:Genuinely impressed with this:

SpaceX rocket lands safely back on earth
8 hours ago
The private space technology company SpaceX has successfully landed a rocket back on land after a mission into space orbit.
The Falcon-9 rocket came back to earth in an upright position a short distance from where it took off at Cape Canavarel in Florida.
Bill Hayton reports.


[Video] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-35157739

Can't imagine just how technical and complex landing a rocket upright and intact must be to achieve. Well done all. Still wouldn't fly in one, though. :shifty:


Unless you are a satellite, they don't expect you to fly in it. ;)

I agree it's an amazing thing to achieve. Science. :wub:

P.S. I have posted this link before I think, but this article has a pretty good write up on SpaceX.

http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/08/how-and-w ... -mars.html

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by Xeno » Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:49 pm

Here is it actually landing. They said it was hard, looked easy to me. ;)


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PostRe: Science - strawberry float YEAH
by Preezy » Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:02 pm

Clearly reversed.

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by Cal » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:31 pm

Case made for 'ninth planet'

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American astronomers say they have strong evidence that there is a ninth planet in our Solar System orbiting far beyond even the dwarf world Pluto. The team, from the California Institute of Technology (Caltech), has no direct observations to confirm its presence just yet. Rather, the scientists make the claim based on the way other far-flung objects are seen to move. But if proven, the putative planet would have 10 times the mass of Earth. The Caltech astronomers have a vague idea where it ought to be on the sky, and their work is sure to fire a campaign to try to track it down. "There are many telescopes on the Earth that actually have a chance of being able to find it," said Dr Mike Brown. "And I'm really hoping that as we announce this, people start a worldwide search to go find this ninth planet."

The group's calculations suggest the object orbits 20 times farther from the Sun on average than does the eighth - and currently outermost - planet, Neptune, which moves about 4.5 billion km from our star. But unlike the near-circular paths traced by the main planets, this novel object would be in a highly elliptical trajectory, taking between 10,000 and 20,000 years to complete one full lap around the Sun. The scientists say they see distinct alignments among some members of the Kuiper Belt - and in particular two of its larger members known as Sedna and 2012 VP113. These alignments, they argue, are best explained by the existence of a hitherto unidentified large planet. "The most distant objects all swing out in one direction in a very strange way that shouldn't happen, and we realised the only way we could get them to swing in one direction is if there is a massive planet, also very distant in the Solar System, keeping them in place while they all go around the Sun," explained Dr Brown. "I went from trying very hard to be sceptical that what we were talking about was true, to suddenly thinking, 'this might actually be true'."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-35365323

That's the thing about science, I guess. Just when we think we might know all there is to know about something - I think they call it a 'scientific consensus', or something - we suddenly discover we don't. It will be interesting to find out if their theory is correct. How come Voyager never reported anything unusual out there on the fringes?

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by Herdanos » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:36 pm

Typical leftie nonsense from the Biased Broadcasting Corporation. If there's a "solar system", where are heaven and hell?

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by Lagamorph » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:52 pm

Pluto will always be the ninth planet to me :cry:

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by False » Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:47 pm

I seem to recall reading something along these lines a long time ago. Nice that it might be getting some investigation though.

Could the collection of kuiper materials not be explained on the basis of standard gravitational binding, the likes of which allowed for the formations of the rest of the planets?

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by That » Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:18 pm

Your news story was very cool: thanks for posting it! We've thought something is a bit 'off' about the dynamics of asteroids in the outer solar system for a while, and it's good to have a working model to test.

Cal wrote:... I think they call it a 'scientific consensus', or something ...

I just wanted to address this. Space is very big and very dark. Planets are small and don't make any light themselves. The hypothesised planet, while large, is guessed to be very far away: around 20 times further out than Neptune is. This means it's not the kind of thing we could just 'happen across.'

Why didn't we search before? Well, scientists try to follow the evidence. Up until recently there was no reason to suspect a distant super-Earth would exist in our solar system; then we discovered that they are common in other solar systems, and that outer solar system dynamics are not quite right. Now we have the new data, and a new model, so we can start running experiments. It would have been silly to go looking for a planet before; we would have had no idea where to look, and no reason to suspect the search would be fruitful. Regardless, no scientist (at least when remembering to speak carefully!) would have said for sure a trans-Neptunian super-Earth does not exist; they would have said that we haven't observed one, and that (at that time) there was little evidence to suggest one existed.

I hope this helps you contextualise how the scientific understanding of this subject has been updated. :)

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