Scott Pilgrim Vs The World: Complete Edition | NSW/PS4/XBO/PC | Holid...aaahh Christmas 2020

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PostScott Pilgrim Vs The World: Complete Edition | NSW/PS4/XBO/PC | Holid...aaahh Christmas 2020
by ITSMILNER » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:36 pm



Loved this back on X360, will grab this on Switch

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PostRe: Scott Pilgrim Vs The World: Complete Edition | NSW/PS4/XBO/PC | Holiday 2020
by Balladeer » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:43 pm

If UbiSoft weren't involved I would be absolutely all over this. :(

But they are.

F*ck 'em.

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PostRe: Scott Pilgrim Vs The World: Complete Edition | NSW/PS4/XBO/PC | Holiday 2020
by Robbo-92 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:58 pm

Day 1 on Switch probably, not normally into side scrolling beat em ups but it’s Scott Pilgrim :wub:

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PostRe: Scott Pilgrim Vs The World: Complete Edition | NSW/PS4/XBO/PC | Holiday 2020
by OrangeRKN » Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:53 am

This is day 1 on Switch for me too. Brilliant game and I've never played the DLC.

It's really great because this was one of those digital-only games that appeared unfortunately lost to time because of licencing.

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PostRe: Scott Pilgrim Vs The World: Complete Edition | NSW/PS4/XBO/PC | Holiday 2020
by Victor Mildew » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:22 am

Can we please change holiday in the thread title to Christmas.

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PostRe: Scott Pilgrim Vs The World: Complete Edition | NSW/PS4/XBO/PC | Holiday 2020
by Banjo » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:36 am

Victor Mildew wrote:Can we please change holiday in the thread title to Christmas.

banana split EVN SAY CHRISTMAS ANYMR ITS POLITIKL COCKROACHNESS GON MAD!!11!

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PostRe: Scott Pilgrim Vs The World: Complete Edition | NSW/PS4/XBO/PC | Christmas 2020
by ITSMILNER » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:52 am

:shifty:

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PostRe: Scott Pilgrim Vs The World: Complete Edition | NSW/PS4/XBO/PC | Holiday 2020
by Victor Mildew » Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:56 am

Banjo wrote:
Victor Mildew wrote:Can we please change holiday in the thread title to Christmas.

banana split EVN SAY CHRISTMAS ANYMR ITS POLITIKL COCKROACHNESS GON MAD!!11!


See banjo gets it y'all

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PostRe: Scott Pilgrim Vs The World: Complete Edition | NSW/PS4/XBO/PC | Christmas 2020
by Robbo-92 » Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:57 am

Ordered restored, Christmas 2020 it is! :lol:

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PostRe: Scott Pilgrim Vs The World: Complete Edition | NSW/PS4/XBO/PC | Christmas 2020
by OrangeRKN » Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:50 am

When this doesn't release on 25 December I'm blaming you

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PostRe: Scott Pilgrim Vs The World: Complete Edition | NSW/PS4/XBO/PC | Christmas 2020
by Victor Mildew » Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:06 am

It's Christmas now and has been since July :capnscotty:

On topic, I had the ps3 version thanks to plus, didn't play much of it but what j did I remember being pretty good.

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PostRe: Scott Pilgrim Vs The World: Complete Edition | NSW/PS4/XBO/PC | Holid...aaahh Christmas 2020
by Pedz » Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:42 am

I enjoyed this, its more like a river city game than something like Streets of Rage.

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by Pedz » Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:44 am

Victor Mildew wrote:Can we please change holiday in the thread title to Christmas.


Their doing the same in the gamepass thread. Go tell them off Ad.

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PostRe: Scott Pilgrim Vs The World: Complete Edition | NSW/PS4/XBO/PC | Holid...aaahh Christmas 2020
by Victor Mildew » Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:45 am

Brb

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PostRe: Scott Pilgrim Vs The World: Complete Edition | NSW/PS4/XBO/PC | Holid...aaahh Christmas 2020
by Dual » Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:46 am

Seem to remember this being very difficult and I didn't like it.

Will not buy.

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PostRe: Scott Pilgrim Vs The World: Complete Edition | NSW/PS4/XBO/PC | Holid...aaahh Christmas 2020
by ITSMILNER » Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:01 am

It was sort of Roguelike-ish in that it was hard but once you started levelling up things got a bit easier from what I remember

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PostRe: Scott Pilgrim Vs The World: Complete Edition | NSW/PS4/XBO/PC | Holid...aaahh Christmas 2020
by Fade » Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:06 pm

The RPG elements just break the game. They make some enemies take a frustrating amount of time to kill and make replaying earlier levels an joke.

They add nothing to the game other than to artificially extend its lifespan by making you grind. Which ironically kills the lifespan of the game once you finish it because it wildly unbalances the earlier levels.

I say this as someone who loves Scott Pilgrim and went to see the 10th anniversary showing last week: Just Play Streets of Rage 4. It's a better game in literally every way.

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PostRe: Scott Pilgrim Vs The World: Complete Edition | NSW/PS4/XBO/PC | Holid...aaahh Christmas 2020
by OrangeRKN » Sun Sep 13, 2020 12:19 am

They're different styles of beat 'em up. If you want to replay the game you start a new save (or play through as different characters who you haven't levelled). I don't think the balance of levelling is perfect as I remember grinding a little back on PS3, but stat/skill progression adds a lot to the genre for me - it's great to have some control over your character build and to balance the stats to your preference (which also adds another layer of management to the gameplay and more to explore with shops and the like), to have a wider pool of skills that keep things fresh as you unlock more, and to have that general RPG power curve of being able to smash through groups of what were once singularly difficult enemies.

Streets of Rage 4 is great but personally I find its pure arcade gameplay focus also means it holds less interest in its simplicity.

Both games also have incredibly good visuals and soundtracks so comparing them there is not easy!

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PostRe: Scott Pilgrim Vs The World: Complete Edition | NSW/PS4/XBO/PC | Holid...aaahh Christmas 2020
by Pedz » Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:20 am

Don't be daft OR, no one goes back to earlier parts in an RPG and its too easy for them. It still magically is a challenge.

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PostRe: Scott Pilgrim Vs The World: Complete Edition | NSW/PS4/XBO/PC | Holid...aaahh Christmas 2020
by Fade » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:43 am

OrangeRKN wrote:They're different styles of beat 'em up. If you want to replay the game you start a new save (or play through as different characters who you haven't levelled). I don't think the balance of levelling is perfect as I remember grinding a little back on PS3, but stat/skill progression adds a lot to the genre for me - it's great to have some control over your character build and to balance the stats to your preference (which also adds another layer of management to the gameplay and more to explore with shops and the like), to have a wider pool of skills that keep things fresh as you unlock more, and to have that general RPG power curve of being able to smash through groups of what were once singularly difficult enemies.

Streets of Rage 4 is great but personally I find its pure arcade gameplay focus also means it holds less interest in its simplicity.

Both games also have incredibly good visuals and soundtracks so comparing them there is not easy!

Here's the thing though, Scott Pilgrim makes you unlock things that SOR gives you from the beginning. It's not a more complex game, it just gates it's content.

Action games that try and add "depth" by shoving in RPG elements without proper consideration are the worst. It turns the game from you get getting better and learning to banging your head against a brick wall until you made the numbers go high enough.

I'm not saying it can't work if implemented with careful balancing so the stats don't have an overbearing impact, but unfortunately in this game they are pretty overbearing. I still remember playing the first few levels, you knock enemies over and wait for them to get up a ridiculous amount of times because you do so little damage, it feels really bad.

And it's not like you have to make difficult decisions like in most RPGs, you can just grind and max out everything if you really want to.

I don't know why so many people give retro style games a free pass with this kind of thing, if you played any modern action game and had to go back to past levels to grind so you could beat a boss I can't imagine people going "ooh such depth"

In short, SOR: Learn the game, get better, do better

Scott Pilgrim: Make numbers go up, you win

It doesn't add depth at all, it in fact makes the game way more shallow because you can just brute force everything.

Perfect example of this is Pokémon, the leveling breaks the game and either makes battles ridiculously hard or a joke, single player content is often just "I have bigger level, lol I win" where as multiplayer battles where everyone is the same level are ridiculously tactical and require a lot of interesting strategies.

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