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Re: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:01 am
by captain red dog
I can't see it would make much difference, people will have made up their mind by now, mostly.

Just a risk for Murray really considering he lives in London and relies on UK support.

Re: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:02 am
by bear
Relies on UK support? Seriously?

Re: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:03 am
by False
Yeah its a well known fact that Murray cant play tennis without the backing of the English. Apparently.

Re: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:04 am
by Moggy
I don’t know why people get so pissy over Murray. He is Scottish, why shouldn’t he have an opinion on Scottish independence? And the “anyone but England” comments years ago was a joke between him and Henman.

Anyway, who is British number 2? :shifty:

Re: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:06 am
by KK
Moggy wrote:Anyway, who is British number 2? :shifty:

My one armed, one legged, blind in one eye, deaf in both ears, arthritic Dad.

Re: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:07 am
by bear
[iup=3567572]Moggy[/iup] wrote:I don’t know why people get so pissy over Murray. He is Scottish, why shouldn’t he have an opinion on Scottish independence? And the “anyone but England” comments years ago was a joke between him and Henman.

Anyway, who is British number 2? :shifty:

Jamie Murray.

Re: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:08 am
by Moggy
[iup=3567573]KKLEIN[/iup] wrote:
Moggy wrote:Anyway, who is British number 2? :shifty:

My one armed, one legged, blind in one eye, deaf in both ears, arthritic Dad.


So I am still number 3? 8-)

Re: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:10 am
by Eighthours
[iup=3567557]captain red dog[/iup] wrote:Its odd that he chose to get involved. It looks narrowly, narrowly like a no vote, and Murray has just murdered his support south of the border. All he had to do was keep quiet another 24 hours! :lol:


It was clever timing for staying under the radar. Broadcasting restrictions on referendum day mean that his support can't be reported on TV, and it was too late to make the broadsheets.

Re: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:13 am
by Hypes
Good luck Scotland. There may be momentous changes ahead, but whatever happens you're still part of our small islands of English speaking friends.
:wub:

Re: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:17 am
by Lagamorph
[iup=3567585]Hyperion[/iup] wrote:Good luck Scotland. There may be momentous changes ahead, but whatever happens you're still part of our small islands of English speaking friends.
:wub:

I wouldn't put it past Salmond to rename the language to Scottish in a refusal to call it English.

Re: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:17 am
by kommissarboris
If I were Scotish I couldn't vote.

I'm sitting here thinking about it and Yes and No have reasons for them.

Good Luck my kilt wearing brothers.

Re: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:26 am
by Return_of_the_STAR
[iup=3567554]KKLEIN[/iup] wrote:Does this mean we're now REALLY going to have to get behind Laura Robson at next year's Wimbledon?


Isn't she Australian? :shifty:

Re: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:30 am
by Gandalf
[iup=3567591]Lagamorph[/iup] wrote:
[iup=3567585]Hyperion[/iup] wrote:Good luck Scotland. There may be momentous changes ahead, but whatever happens you're still part of our small islands of English speaking friends.
:wub:

I wouldn't put it past Salmond to rename the language to Scottish in a refusal to call it English.


This. If it does go the way of the 'Yes' then good luck to you lot for having to put up with that prick! :lol:

Re: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:54 am
by TheTurnipKing
[iup=3567531]Lagamorph[/iup] wrote:
[iup=3567506]Return_of_the_STAR[/iup] wrote:
[iup=3567470]PES Fan[/iup] wrote:

twitter.com/andy_murray/status/512392618077323264



This is part of the problem of the no campaign. Th yes caring is entirely positive, everything is about the benefits (in their opinion) of voting yes whilst the no campaign is a mixture of the negatives of voting yes and the positives of staying together (in their opinion). If you listening a lot to them there's a lot of negatively. Personally they are right to point about positives and negatives but that leads to miserable strawberry floats like Murray becoming depressed.

But the negatives have to be put out there. By completely ignoring the potential negatives and problems of independence by never acknowledging or discussing them the Yes campaign are essentially misleading people.

The difference between a negative and a positive is a matter of phrasing.

You don't stress the negatives of a yes vote: You stress the positives of a "no". The problem is, the way they've phrased a lot of their concerns often sound suspiciously like "we will try to deny you this".

Re: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:24 am
by kommissarboris
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Simpsons pictures that I gone and done :wub:

today is the day that the people of scotland decide if they want to be a independent country on their own or if they want to stay as part of the uk in the united kingdom with the rest of everyone else in the world. after months of people talking about it constantly the day has finally come and everyone is ready and excited for the big vote especially the leader of yes club 7 alex salmond who has been walking around the streets near his house since 4 o clock this morning handing out bags of live salmons to everyone that he meets to try and get them to vote for him and he even made a baby butterfly come out of his mouth as well because it is what a group of people wanted to see and they was dead impressed and alistair darling who is the leader of the darling buds of nay got up extra early this morning as well to make sure that his traditional large black mens eyebrow extensions was glued on to his face properly because they are what he calls his weapons of mass seduction that he is going to use to convince people to vote for him if they like that type of thing and as i look out into my street everyone i see is going mental for voting right now and i even saw a little boy nearly vote himself into a epileptic fit earlier because he was so excited for the referendum but i think that whatever the result may be it is important to remember to be kind to others no matter who they have voted for or what they believe in because that is their choice that they have made and as people we are bigger than that because we are all the land that we stand upon and we are all the air that we breathe and we are all the sea that takes us to far away places and then brings us back home again and we are all made from the same flesh and bones as every single star and planet around us and we need not to fight and not to worry because we are all born with kindness inside of ourselfs and it is this kindness that above all of everything else will make scotland and the world a better place for each and every one of us and help us to live our lives in happiness for as long as the earth allows us and as you write your cross into the little box today it will almost be like you are marking a cross onto every unborn childs forehead that will stay with them for the rest of their lives so good luck to everyone whichever way you may vote because this is your moment so just enjoy it and remember to take a pen with you as well just incase someone trys to kidnap you while you are voting so you can stab them with it and escape more easily. love from your friend Chris (Simpsons artist) xox


Handing out bags of live salmons :slol:

Re: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:31 am
by KK
Hope everyone votes Judy Murray off of Strictly in Week 1.

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Re: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:45 am
by Herdanos
[iup=3567572]Moggy[/iup] wrote:I don’t know why people get so pissy over Murray. He is Scottish, why shouldn’t he have an opinion on Scottish independence? And the “anyone but England” comments years ago was a joke between him and Henman.


Moggy gets it.

Re: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:12 pm
by Tineash
[iup=3567657]Dan.[/iup] wrote:
[iup=3567572]Moggy[/iup] wrote:I don’t know why people get so pissy over Murray. He is Scottish, why shouldn’t he have an opinion on Scottish independence? And the “anyone but England” comments years ago was a joke between him and Henman.


Moggy gets it.


It'll make no difference to me, but it will feel a little melancholy to have 'our' wimbledon champion off playing for someone else.

And we'll never, ever crack the top 5 at the Olympics again, either.

Re: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:13 pm
by Poser
[iup=3567676]Tineash[/iup] wrote:And we'll never, ever crack the top 5 at the Olympics again, either.


That was a foregone conclusion anyway, TBH.

Re: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:31 pm
by That
[iup=3567554]KKLEIN[/iup] wrote:Does this mean we're now REALLY going to have to get behind Laura Robson at next year's Wimbledon?


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Fine by me. :wub: