[DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!

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Should Scotland be an independent country?

YES (I am eligible to vote in the referendum)
30
16%
NO (I am eligible to vote in the referendum)
19
10%
YES (I will not be eligible)
30
16%
NO (I will not be eligible)
111
58%
 
Total votes: 190
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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by Return_of_the_STAR » Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:34 pm

[iup=3568938]Lucien[/iup] wrote:@ROTS - I didn't say we face cuts with a Yes or a No; I said we'd have faced cuts if we didn't hold the referendum. If we'd have voted 'Yes' we could have avoided Tory policy.


I see that makes more sense. I want to avoid some aspects of Tory policy too.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by Photek » Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:57 pm

[iup=3568842]Hyperion[/iup] wrote:Kind of is.
Disliking the British as a race/people because of where they are born and what some of their distant ancestors might have done/not done.
Whereas you should be looking at them as individuals not defined by the place they live/colour of their skin/religion.

I never said I disliked the British....I was saying I dont like being called British.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by Photek » Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:04 pm

[iup=3568848]Moggy[/iup] wrote:
[iup=3568837]Photek[/iup] wrote:My point being its not racism.


It is when you accuse 60 million people of being responsible for 900 years of atrocities.

I never accused anyone, I stated historical fact.
[iup=3568850]TheWay[/iup] wrote:
Photek wrote:People fought and died to reclaim most of Ireland back from the British


What's it like, knowing someone else fought for your freedom and having done nothing to repay them?

What's it like, knowing someone else murdered, raped, enslaved and participated in genocide in the name of your country?

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....but I'll support Liverpool.

Liverpool is home to England’s highest percentage of Irish Immigrants.

Liverpool traditionally is known as having the strongest Irish heritage of any British city, with the possible exception of Glasgow. The Irish have played a major role in Liverpool's population and social fabric for a good part of the city's eight-hundred year history. A lot of Liverpudlians have some Irish ancestry, their Irish ancestors are most likely to have come to Liverpool in the 19th century. The Irish influence is heard in the local Liverpool dialect, often called Scouse, and seen in the faces and names of the populace. At least three of Liverpool's most famous citizens, The Beatles, had some Irish ancestry. George Harrison was of maternal Irish-Catholic derivation. Bandmate Sir Paul McCartney had one Irish grandfather and an Irish great-grandfather. John Lennon's father's family were the descendents of Irish migrants who came to Liverpool in the 19th century

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by Fatal Exception » Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:06 pm

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by DML » Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:07 pm

Still in Britain though isn't it? Still suppoorting a British team.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by Hime » Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:08 pm

On holiday at the moment so just woke up to the result. I 'm glad Scotland has remained in the UK, it's where I grew up and a place dear to my heart.

Hopefully this will be the end of the smug twat Salmond, whatever good reasons there were behind the idea of Scottish independence he new full well he could stir up the anti English brigade to get the momentum going.

I think good will come of this, Westminster has had a scare and seen that the status quo can be disrupted. With any luck this will give the whole of the UK a kick up the backside with regards to voting.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by Fatal Exception » Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:09 pm

Photek wrote:
[iup=3568842]Hyperion[/iup] wrote:Kind of is.
Disliking the British as a race/people because of where they are born and what some of their distant ancestors might have done/not done.
Whereas you should be looking at them as individuals not defined by the place they live/colour of their skin/religion.

I never said I disliked the British....I was saying I dont like being called British.

If you were born in the British Isles you are British. Deal with it.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by TV Dinner » Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:16 pm

Are you okay Lucien?

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by Photek » Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:28 pm

[iup=3568982]DML[/iup] wrote:Still in Britain though isn't it? Still suppoorting a British team.

And?
I support the Minnesota Vikings cos the missus comes from there - (a connection)
I support Dublin in GAA cos yaknow, ive lived all my life here - (a connection)
I support Bohemians cos My parents grew up in Cabra - (a connection)
I support Liverpool cos it had lots of Irish players in the 80's and I share my surname with one of the Beatles :slol: - (a connection).

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by Poser » Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:31 pm

Photek Starr? :o

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by chalkitdown » Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:31 pm

Stop it.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by Photek » Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:33 pm

[iup=3569019]Poser[/iup] wrote:Photek Starr? :o

:o

Photek Lennon (Lennon is an Irish name, prominent in Northern Ireland and Dublin, im 8th Generation Dublin-Lennon) :datass:

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by TheWay » Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:37 pm

A cowards reply, Photek. You ducked the question. To answer your scrabbled diversion though, guess who else has a strawberry floating harp on the front their passport...

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by Dblock » Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:37 pm

All this outcry about how the English used to mistreat you and bla bla bla. Yet when it comes to reality you guys were scared to stand on your own feet.

No spine at all.

''Saying it's because I was controlling you and making you sad when actually I just asked you to wear some trousers'' :lol: :lol:
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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by Poser » Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:38 pm

Back to the election, social media morons are helping the 'fix/recount' calls gather pace.

Despite the no/yes map looking like this.

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:fp:

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by Lagamorph » Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:41 pm

[iup=3569027]Dblock[/iup] wrote:All this outcry about how the English used to mistreat you and bla bla bla. Yet when it comes to reality you guys were scared to stand on your own feet.

No spine at all.

I don't think being scared had anything to do with it. It just makes more sense for all parties.that the UK remain together.
Scotland shouldn't leave the UK anymore than the UK should leave the EU.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by Photek » Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:41 pm

[iup=3569026]TheWay[/iup] wrote:A cowards reply, Photek. You ducked the question. To answer your scrabbled diversion though, guess who else has a strawberry floating harp on the front their passport...

Angry man.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by Dblock » Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:43 pm

[iup=3569034]Lagamorph[/iup] wrote:
[iup=3569027]Dblock[/iup] wrote:All this outcry about how the English used to mistreat you and bla bla bla. Yet when it comes to reality you guys were scared to stand on your own feet.

No spine at all.

I don't think being scared had anything to do with it. It just makes more sense for all parties.that the UK remain together.
Scotland shouldn't leave the UK anymore than the UK should leave the EU.



The brave heart movie was done for nothing. That speech was absolutely for nothing. William Wallace has faded into nothing now, all his hard fought battles were for nothing.

FOR OUR FREEDOM!....nah bitch you scared to be free .

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by Poser » Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:43 pm

:lol: :lol: Holy gooseberry fool. I think that's getting sigged. Lovely stuff.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by Eighthours » Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:45 pm

[iup=3569027]Dblock[/iup] wrote:All this outcry about how the English used to mistreat you and bla bla bla. Yet when it comes to reality you guys were scared to stand on your own feet.

No spine at all.


This may surprise you, but a majority of people in Scotland simply wished to remain part of the UK. It had nothing to do with being 'scared'.


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