[DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!

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Should Scotland be an independent country?

YES (I am eligible to vote in the referendum)
30
16%
NO (I am eligible to vote in the referendum)
19
10%
YES (I will not be eligible)
30
16%
NO (I will not be eligible)
111
58%
 
Total votes: 190
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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence
by Kanbei » Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:11 pm

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[iup=3567796]kommissarboris[/iup] wrote:If they get independence I want independence :x

Is there much appetite for Independence in NI or is it all Dublin vs Westminster?


I have no idea.

I read not too long ago that support for an all Ireland reunification wasn't very strong in Ireland and had dropped off in Northern Ireland a bit due to the economic capers over the last few years.

If there was a vote on reunification tomorrow in the ROI it'd probably pass handily but the rise of Sinn Fein has dampened any appetite among the other political parties for reunification. Realistically there aren't many partnerships they could forge with NI parties so Sinn Fein could end up as the biggest party in an all-island Ireland.



If there was a vote now NI would vote to stay in the UK. If Scotland votes to leave I think there will be a major shift towards reunification. Unionism will turn from being Pro-British to Anti-Irish which will piss alot of people off. Unionism will slowly die with there being no Union left to defend and the choice will either be a Northern Ireland state or a United Ireland. And I do not what our useless fuckwit politicians in charge of an actual country.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence
by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:18 pm

Do we know when the results will be announced?

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence
by Saigon Slick » Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:19 pm

Expected between 06.30 and 07.30 UK time, which is great for me.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence
by False » Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:19 pm

I hope they do the stats on total citizens/registration/final turnout.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence
by Saigon Slick » Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:23 pm

If the SNP are a left leaning pro-nation group, could that make them... Socialist Nationalists? :dread:

False, they will.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence
by Venom's Christmas Carol » Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:24 pm

[iup=3567850]Moggy[/iup] wrote:Do we know when the results will be announced?



The official result will be Friday morning although as the area votes are counted if they are revealed immediately as with General Elections, a strong decision in either direction will unofficially give the game away.

As soon as voting stops at 10pm the TV and media companies will count up their exit polls and that should give a strong indication.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence
by Tineash » Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:26 pm

No exit polls, for some reason.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence
by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:32 pm

[iup=3567851]Corazon de Leon[/iup] wrote:Expected between 06.30 and 07.30 UK time, which is great for me.


So I will find out tomorrow morning either when I am on the shitter or when I arrive at work. :lol:

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence
by captain red dog » Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:34 pm

What the strawberry float are the BBC going to do with all their overnight coverage then? It isn't like you are going to get results flow in like a general election, but they are covering it from 10:40pm until the morning! :lol:

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence
by Saigon Slick » Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:38 pm

You will get a results flow, there are 32 districts who will declare through the night what their votes are.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence
by Venom's Christmas Carol » Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:41 pm

[iup=3567861]Tineash[/iup] wrote:No exit polls, for some reason.


Damn, you're right. :shock:

The absence of an exit poll means we’ll be robbed of a post-vote analysis of how this momentous referendum was decided.
Anyone who’s sat up watching the TV on election night knows there’s a pattern to how things go: before the polls close, early in the evening, broadcasters assiduously say as little as possible to avoid breaking election broadcasting rules.

Then comes 10pm, and the polls close. Moments later, the anchor behind the desk (almost always a Dimbleby of some description) gives the results of the exit poll – often the only bit of red meat to talk about for the next several hours. Except, as the polls close in the Scottish referendum, this won’t happen – as neither the BBC nor any other media outlet has bothered to pay to get one done.

Exit polls are the best form of voting-related data we can ever get our hands on. They’re collected by large numbers of researchers standing outside polling stations and asking tens of thousands of people how they voted – as well as collecting a little demographic information, such as age, gender, race or social class. The most visible outlet for the results of this (quite expensive) work is in the first hours after polls close: it gives a snapshot of the result while the laborious work of actually counting the votes is done.

As we won’t start to see the referendum results start to trickle in until at least 2am, without an exit poll broadcasters will have to fill the first four hours of their coverage with … what, exactly? This “poll” of Grindr users might be as good as anything else we’ve got (about 53-47 against independence, if you were wondering).

Why no exit poll for such a momentous and consequential vote? The first possibility is that no one thought the vote would be close, and so deemed it as not interesting enough to be worthy of the spend. More likely, hopefully, is that the broadcasters were afraid of the consequences of a poll being wrong: if the BBC spends four hours discussing a poll that’s 51-49 in favour of yes, and when the final votes come in the result is no, deputy heads may roll amid the backlash.


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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence
by Lotus » Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:41 pm

The BBC coverage is going to be unbearable; Huw Edwards, Nick Robinson, Jeremy Vine, Andrew Neil... :dread:

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence
by Mockmaster » Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:43 pm

We could do an exit poll for GRcade's Scottish voters and extrapolate those results outwards to present a super accurate forecast of the overall result.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence
by Qikzmas » Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:45 pm

[iup=3567880]Mockmaster[/iup] wrote:We could do an exit poll for GRcade's Scottish voters and extrapolate those results outwards to present a super accurate forecast of the overall result.


Sounds legit.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence
by bear » Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:49 pm

[iup=3567879]Lotus[/iup] wrote:The BBC coverage is going to be unbearable; Huw Edwards, Nick Robinson, Jeremy Vine, Andrew Neil... :dread:

Don't bother watching it then?

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence
by Walking in a Winter Winckleland » Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:50 pm

[iup=3567879]Lotus[/iup] wrote:The BBC coverage is going to be unbearable; Huw Edwards, Nick Robinson, Jeremy Vine, Andrew Neil... :dread:

But imagine if the studio building collapsed!

[iup=3567880]Mockmaster[/iup] wrote:We could do an exit poll for GRcade's Scottish voters and extrapolate those results outwards to present a super accurate forecast of the overall result.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence
by Saigon Slick » Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:52 pm

[iup=3567879]Lotus[/iup] wrote:The BBC coverage is going to be unbearable; Huw Edwards, Nick Robinson, Jeremy Vine, Andrew Neil... :dread:


Have you done anything in this thread but complain? Why are you still posting here?

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence
by Tineash » Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:53 pm

2015 is Dimbleby's last general election; from 2020 or maybe sooner.. onwards it's all Huw strawberry floating Edwards.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence
by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:54 pm

[iup=3567886]Tineash[/iup] wrote:2015 is Dimbleby's last general election; from 2020 or maybe sooner.. onwards it's all Huw strawberry floating Edwards.


Wales will be independent by 2016 so we will be able to get rid of Huw.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence
by captain red dog » Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:56 pm

Are the results going to trickle in? I thought each station reports to the head counting officer and then she announces the result tomorrow when they are all done.


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