[DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!

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Should Scotland be an independent country?

YES (I am eligible to vote in the referendum)
30
16%
NO (I am eligible to vote in the referendum)
19
10%
YES (I will not be eligible)
30
16%
NO (I will not be eligible)
111
58%
 
Total votes: 190
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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by Dual » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:21 am

Can someone explain who Devo Max is?

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by Moggy » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:21 am

[iup=3568533]Return_of_the_STAR[/iup] wrote:Why do so many scots seem to think they are getting devo max now? The major parties signed a letter to say that they would devolve more powers that was all. Now everyone seems to be going on about devo max. I thinks it's important that people realise the difference otherwise we are suddenly going to have a lot of people claiming that they were lied to and tricked when in fact they've just misunderstood.


As Nick Clegg signed the letter, I would suggest it might not be a cast iron guarantee....

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by Zellery » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:22 am

Is there any way that we can get strawberry floating Salmond and Darling out of the corners now?

Oh, and whoever decided to do that. strawberry float you.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by Return_of_the_STAR » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:24 am

[iup=3568537]Moggy[/iup] wrote:
[iup=3568533]Return_of_the_STAR[/iup] wrote:Why do so many scots seem to think they are getting devo max now? The major parties signed a letter to say that they would devolve more powers that was all. Now everyone seems to be going on about devo max. I thinks it's important that people realise the difference otherwise we are suddenly going to have a lot of people claiming that they were lied to and tricked when in fact they've just misunderstood.


As Nick Clegg signed the letter, I would suggest it might not be a cast iron guarantee....


The clegg clause, if he signed it, it doesn't count.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence
by Luboluke » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:28 am

[iup=3568332]Jay Adama[/iup] wrote:
[iup=3568328]Luke_25[/iup] wrote:I think voting against your country governing itself fully is retarded. And willingly ceding power to those who couldn't give a gooseberry fool about you is a slap in the face to your fellow citizen.

Please do not insult those who do not share your views.

You are welcome to state your opinion for or against either side but this does not include saying people who hold the opposite view to are "retarded".


I was using ian's word, I don't care for it either.

I feel sick tbh and embarrassed by my country, all this proud Scottish identity can get strawberry floated, we've voted to be British. I don't expect to see any change politically in this country, Labour is absolutely dead to me and I'll probably never vote for them again, I anticipate the Tories winning an easy majority next time round. Can't wait.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by Qikz » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:30 am

So now it appears that our four countries union is continiung for a while and Westminster are looking a lot of things, does that mean this coming general election they might actually give us real reasons to want to bother to go to vote?

we've voted to be British.


Welcome to democracy! The majority in Scotland voted to stay British (although you would've been British anyway as we live on the British isles) and now the best thing you can do is look to the future, infact that's the best thing all of our countries should do. Look forward to improve our great union. Within it our small little island owned 1/4 of the worlds land surface at one point and despite some horrible things that we did, we also managed to achieve many great things together.

The only thing we need is our government not to become America 2.0. Hopefully this referendum will have rattled a few cages and helped stop that from happening. All we can hope for as a union is that each member gets more power over it's own people and also to become closer and closer with the EU and not further apart. I hope now that if an EU referendum takes place that we stay in!

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by Zellery » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:32 am

You're coming across as extremely bitter, Luke.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by Return_of_the_STAR » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:34 am

[iup=3568543]Qikz[/iup] wrote:So now it appears that our four countries union is continiung for a while and Westminster are looking a lot of things, does that mean this coming general election they might actually give us real reasons to want to bother to go to vote?


Possibly if the different parties start promising different reform but realistically the election will probably come too soon for this to be the main agenda.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by Photek » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:40 am

Scotland. :fp:

The UK government won't be able to live up to their promise of devolution so I reckon a re-vote in 2020.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by Zellery » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:42 am

So, definitely not a re-vote in 2020.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by Photek » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:42 am

[iup=3568545]Zellery[/iup] wrote:You're coming across as extremely bitter, Luke.

Why shouldnt he be though? I know I'd be, and have been for years with the gooseberry fool pot government we had for years that ran Ireland into the ground. I was bitter for 16years and hey ho, I was proved strawberry floating right.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by CuriousOyster » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:42 am

It is exactly 'opinions' like Lukes that I cant grasp. Its all well and fine to govern yourself, which I would be clearly for as well but all the yes vote doesn't seem to even consider economic impact. The pound is at a two year this morning with the no vote for Christ sake.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by Photek » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:46 am

[iup=3568558]CuriousOyster[/iup] wrote:It is exactly 'opinions' like Lukes that I cant grasp. Its all well and fine to govern yourself, which I would be clearly for as well but all the yes vote doesn't seem to even consider economic impact. The pound is at a two year this morning with the no vote for Christ sake.

I can't grasp your last sentence tbh.

If you can't grasp that Lukes opinion that people voting against governing themselves is retarded well then...maybe lukes right. :D

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by Dannie Lennox » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:47 am

two year high.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by Zellery » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:48 am

It was pretty obvious what he meant.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by bear » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:48 am

[iup=3568543]Qikz[/iup] wrote:So now it appears that our four countries union is continiung for a while and Westminster are looking a lot of things, does that mean this coming general election they might actually give us real reasons to want to bother to go to vote?

we've voted to be British.


Welcome to democracy! The majority in Scotland voted to stay British (although you would've been British anyway as we live on the British isles) and now the best thing you can do is look to the future, infact that's the best thing all of our countries should do. Look forward to improve our great union. Within it our small little island owned 1/4 of the worlds land surface at one point and despite some horrible things that we did, we also managed to achieve many great things together.

The only thing we need is our government not to become America 2.0. Hopefully this referendum will have rattled a few cages and helped stop that from happening. All we can hope for as a union is that each member gets more power over it's own people and also to become closer and closer with the EU and not further apart. I hope now that if an EU referendum takes place that we stay in!


Hmmm

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by Captain Kinopio » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:48 am

Over what in all likelihood would have become Scotland's currency as well.

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by Photek » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:49 am

[iup=3568571]bear[/iup] wrote:
[iup=3568543]Qikz[/iup] wrote:So now it appears that our four countries union is continiung for a while and Westminster are looking a lot of things, does that mean this coming general election they might actually give us real reasons to want to bother to go to vote?

we've voted to be British.


Welcome to democracy! The majority in Scotland voted to stay British (although you would've been British anyway as we live on the British isles) and now the best thing you can do is look to the future, infact that's the best thing all of our countries should do. Look forward to improve our great union. Within it our small little island owned 1/4 of the worlds land surface at one point and despite some horrible things that we did, we also managed to achieve many great things together.

The only thing we need is our government not to become America 2.0. Hopefully this referendum will have rattled a few cages and helped stop that from happening. All we can hope for as a union is that each member gets more power over it's own people and also to become closer and closer with the EU and not further apart. I hope now that if an EU referendum takes place that we stay in!


Hmmm

Looking forward to the All-British Final Bear, are you? :lol:

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by Dannie Lennox » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:50 am

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PostRe: [DISCUSSION] Scottish Independence - It's a No!
by Photek » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:51 am

Not sure what that is Dan. The point being, I'm Irish, the world, nor does anyone think im British (if you do, you are full on stupid). :datass:

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