Sexual misconduct and the Gaming Community.

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by Photek » Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:38 am


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by DarkRula » Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:39 am

It is a great article, and puts the entire situation into clear perspective. Not just about sexual abuse, but any of it. If you can be made to feel that your job - even your entire career - can be gone as soon as you speak out, who'd want to risk it? And even those not within a job or career would be thinking along the same lines - as if you brought some person of importance down through your words, wouldn't you expect even more abuse to come your way from those who were a follower of that person?

But that article outlines some good advice as well. If you can start talking about it - and talk to someone who will listen - it will become easier to come to terms with and make the push to make it known to someone who will act. Change is needed pretty much throughout society, but change within one section of it - in this case the gaming community - could very well push change to wider society. If these companies better themselves and the culture surrounding themselves, such abuse can be minimised. Until it does, though... those survivors should speak out. Without their words, the abuser can continue on.

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by JT986M2 » Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:01 pm

I think the article raises a good point about drinking and workplace culture as well. There is still this very outdated thinking in this country (and others) that there needs to be alcohol involved in order for everyone to 'network' and have a good time. Leading to the events only being classed as 'legendary' if someone gets rat-arsed and makes a tit of themselves.

I mean think about it - new start in the office? Trip to the pub at the end of the week. Christmas night out? Alcohol. Sales target met (or equivalent)? Alcohol. It shouldn't be pressured on people, and when it comes to workplace culture it should be separated entirely because - as the reporter says - the old 'but we were drunk' rears it's head for inexcusable behaviour. It must be even worse for people that have pressure on them to attend large networking events where it's seen as the norm.

I'm not anti-drinking or anything like that, just perplexed that in this day and age it's so ingrained in society and workplace culture. I bet a lot of people would feel more comfortable if it was completely separated from work, negating the fear of management types hitting on you at the Christmas party because 'bants'.

When I first read that paragraph I did think to myself 'what has that got to do with anything?', but it's a good point.

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PostRe: Sexual misconduct and the Gaming Community.
by Moggy » Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:00 pm

JT986M2 wrote:I think the article raises a good point about drinking and workplace culture as well. There is still this very outdated thinking in this country (and others) that there needs to be alcohol involved in order for everyone to 'network' and have a good time. Leading to the events only being classed as 'legendary' if someone gets rat-arsed and makes a tit of themselves.

I mean think about it - new start in the office? Trip to the pub at the end of the week. Christmas night out? Alcohol. Sales target met (or equivalent)? Alcohol. It shouldn't be pressured on people, and when it comes to workplace culture it should be separated entirely because - as the reporter says - the old 'but we were drunk' rears it's head for inexcusable behaviour. It must be even worse for people that have pressure on them to attend large networking events where it's seen as the norm.

I'm not anti-drinking or anything like that, just perplexed that in this day and age it's so ingrained in society and workplace culture. I bet a lot of people would feel more comfortable if it was completely separated from work, negating the fear of management types hitting on you at the Christmas party because 'bants'.

When I first read that paragraph I did think to myself 'what has that got to do with anything?', but it's a good point.


I'm old enough to remember Friday lunchtime drinks. And half the people would drive home a few hours later.

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PostRe: Sexual misconduct and the Gaming Community.
by Photek » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:29 am

Friday Lunch time drinks seemed to be an English thing. When I worked in Dublin Airport, we had an English consultancy over and every single one of them would have a pint at lunch in pub of a friday. I tried it once but felt sleepy for the rest of the day...

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PostRe: Sexual misconduct and the Gaming Community.
by kazanova_Frankenstein » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:52 pm

Balladeer wrote:#notallgamers ;)


As a taller gent i take offence with this :cry:

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by Balladeer » Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:00 pm

Sorry, can’t hear you from up there, you’ll have to speak up - or down I guess.

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PostRe: Sexual misconduct and the Gaming Community.
by Tomous » Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:01 pm

Photek wrote:Friday Lunch time drinks seemed to be an English thing. When I worked in Dublin Airport, we had an English consultancy over and every single one of them would have a pint at lunch in pub of a friday. I tried it once but felt sleepy for the rest of the day...



It's a big thing in London, not so much outside of there-in my experience anyway.

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PostRe: Sexual misconduct and the Gaming Community.
by Photek » Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:07 pm

Tomous wrote:
Photek wrote:Friday Lunch time drinks seemed to be an English thing. When I worked in Dublin Airport, we had an English consultancy over and every single one of them would have a pint at lunch in pub of a friday. I tried it once but felt sleepy for the rest of the day...



It's a big thing in London, not so much outside of there-in my experience anyway.

It was a london based financial consultancy, but like all 20+ of them would head off to the pub at lunch on Friday... :lol:

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PostRe: Sexual misconduct and the Gaming Community.
by Knoyleo » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:28 pm



Jim Sterling going all guns blazing, here.

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PostRe: Sexual misconduct and the Gaming Community.
by Godzilla » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:46 pm

Rightly so, Ubisoft are a truly scummy company these days.

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PostRe: Sexual misconduct and the Gaming Community.
by Ironhide » Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:52 pm

strawberry float Ubisoft.

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PostRe: Sexual misconduct and the Gaming Community.
by Trelliz » Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:40 pm

Knoyleo wrote:

Jim Sterling going all guns blazing, here.


Rightly so. The last game I bought from them was The Crew 2 which was such a bland dopamine treadmill that it put me right off them anyway, with all this they can get doubly strawberry floated.

If there's anything left of theirs I might want to try for some mad reason it'll be second hand on PS4 so they get none of the money.

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PostRe: Sexual misconduct and the Gaming Community.
by KK » Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:02 pm

twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1285527461300711424


Just because Beyond Good and Evil bombed, these Bond villains must have slept through the last 2 decades because this mindset is quite evidently false. The ongoing success of Tomb Raider, coupled with Resident Evil 3 and Perfect Dark back in 2000, should have put that to bed. And more recently Horizon and The Last of Us 2.

If the game is good and has a concept that grabs people it’ll sell, whether your protagonist is a blonde lanky streak of piss from California (Broken Sword) or a down on his luck black bloke from, erm, California (GTA). Which was another disproved theory that seemingly every game at various points in time had to star an obnoxious white steroid abuser.

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PostRe: Sexual misconduct and the Gaming Community.
by Saint of Killers » Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:26 pm

twitter.com/ghostordie/status/1285622407525552131



twitter.com/ghostordie/status/1285631204809736194



twitter.com/panecasio/status/1285623371535986689


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PostRe: Sexual misconduct and the Gaming Community.
by DarkRula » Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:57 pm

Absolutely scary that sort of thing seemed to be normalised among the execs, and it's astonishing yet not surprising at the general attitude they had toward that stuff.

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by Squinty » Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:59 am

For a company that prides itself on having a progressive team, they are doing a terrible job handling this.

Not really shocked by torture scenes in games though. Not saying it's not terrible, but it's been done before. I'm somewhat desensitised at this point. But if the tweet is true and they were planning a playable depiction of rape......what the actual strawberry float is that about? Why would anyone want to do that in a game?

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PostRe: Sexual misconduct and the Gaming Community.
by Vermilion » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:12 am

Squinty wrote:But if the tweet is true and they were planning a playable depiction of rape......what the actual strawberry float is that about? Why would anyone want to do that in a game?


That's seriously messed up, there is no place for that gooseberry fool in any game.

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PostRe: Sexual misconduct and the Gaming Community.
by Squinty » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:15 am

That's a really good video by Jim Sterling. I sort of stopped watching his stuff as some of the less serious videos just seemed rambly as strawberry float or padded out with him trying to be funny. He done really well with this one.


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