Shark swims and lands on beach in New Jersey

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by Scotticus Erroticus » Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:21 pm

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PostRe: Shark swims and lands on beach in New Jersey
by Igor » Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:40 pm

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Scotticus Erroticus wrote:Mammals came out from the sea, in fact all life did. Perhaps this shark is just showing a bit of the behaviour that eventually led to all sea-life moving from the water to the land? It's a perfectly point to make.


Evolution doesn't work that way, Scott.


How? All animals at some point show behaviourl changes over thousands of years. What's to say that this fish isn't confusing its instincts here?


Are you pulling my leg or something?

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PostRe: Shark swims and lands on beach in New Jersey
by Starbreaker » Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:53 pm

Scotticus Erroticus wrote:Mammals came out from the sea, in fact all life did. Perhaps this shark is just showing a bit of the behaviour that eventually led to all sea-life moving from the water to the land? It's a perfectly point to make.


First off, I'd like to take the scientific high road and point out that land-based vertebrae are descended from the class Actinopterygii, whose evolved forms encompass all tetrapods, whereas sharks are Selachimorpha from the Elasmobranchi class. Which encompasses none.

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PostRe: Shark swims and lands on beach in New Jersey
by Moggy » Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:37 am

Igor wrote:
Scotticus Erroticus wrote:
Igor wrote:
Scotticus Erroticus wrote:Mammals came out from the sea, in fact all life did. Perhaps this shark is just showing a bit of the behaviour that eventually led to all sea-life moving from the water to the land? It's a perfectly point to make.


Evolution doesn't work that way, Scott.


How? All animals at some point show behaviourl changes over thousands of years. What's to say that this fish isn't confusing its instincts here?


Are you pulling my leg or something?


No he is serious. In order for animals to colonise the land, it needs one brave creature to venture out of the water and test out what life is like in the air. This brave shark is the first of many to try this experiment and is going to be known as a pioneer of shark kind. Of course the whales have been testing for years but humans ruin the experiment by putting them back in the water. :fp:

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PostRe: Shark swims and lands on beach in New Jersey
by Fatal Exception » Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:57 am

Moggy wrote:
Igor wrote:
Scotticus Erroticus wrote:
Igor wrote:
Scotticus Erroticus wrote:Mammals came out from the sea, in fact all life did. Perhaps this shark is just showing a bit of the behaviour that eventually led to all sea-life moving from the water to the land? It's a perfectly point to make.


Evolution doesn't work that way, Scott.


How? All animals at some point show behaviourl changes over thousands of years. What's to say that this fish isn't confusing its instincts here?


Are you pulling my leg or something?


No he is serious. In order for animals to colonise the land, it needs one brave creature to venture out of the water and test out what life is like in the air. This brave shark is the first of many to try this experiment and is going to be known as a pioneer of shark kind. Of course the whales have been testing for years but humans ruin the experiment by putting them back in the water. :fp:


You do realise Whales evolved from land animals, that went back into the sea.

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PostRe: Shark swims and lands on beach in New Jersey
by Igor » Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:21 am

Yep. The difference is that we know how that process occurred, and it wasn't due to one lone land mammal 'going against its instincts' and suddenly deciding that it's better, down where it's wetter, under the sea.

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PostRe: Shark swims and lands on beach in New Jersey
by Qikz » Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:52 am



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PostRe: Shark swims and lands on beach in New Jersey
by Moggy » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:25 am

Fatal Exception wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Igor wrote:
Scotticus Erroticus wrote:
Igor wrote:
Scotticus Erroticus wrote:Mammals came out from the sea, in fact all life did. Perhaps this shark is just showing a bit of the behaviour that eventually led to all sea-life moving from the water to the land? It's a perfectly point to make.


Evolution doesn't work that way, Scott.


How? All animals at some point show behaviourl changes over thousands of years. What's to say that this fish isn't confusing its instincts here?


Are you pulling my leg or something?


No he is serious. In order for animals to colonise the land, it needs one brave creature to venture out of the water and test out what life is like in the air. This brave shark is the first of many to try this experiment and is going to be known as a pioneer of shark kind. Of course the whales have been testing for years but humans ruin the experiment by putting them back in the water. :fp:


You do realise Whales evolved from land animals, that went back into the sea.


Whales are just sharks without teeth though. So your saying that sharks used to live on land but are shocked when one tries to go back to land?

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by JK » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:31 am

Moggy wrote:Whales are just sharks without teeth though. So your saying that sharks used to live on land but are shocked when one tries to go back to land?


They're not, sharks are a completely different evolutionary line to whales. Whales are mammals for a start.

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PostRe: Shark swims and lands on beach in New Jersey
by Moggy » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:42 am

JK wrote:
Moggy wrote:Whales are just sharks without teeth though. So your saying that sharks used to live on land but are shocked when one tries to go back to land?


They're not, sharks are a completely different evolutionary line to whales. Whales are mammals for a start.


Whales are not mammals like humans. They are fish, just like dolphins and tuna. Living in water should give the clue that they are a fish based lifeform.

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PostRe: Shark swims and lands on beach in New Jersey
by JK » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:44 am

Moggy wrote:
JK wrote:
Moggy wrote:Whales are just sharks without teeth though. So your saying that sharks used to live on land but are shocked when one tries to go back to land?


They're not, sharks are a completely different evolutionary line to whales. Whales are mammals for a start.


Whales are not mammals like humans. They are fish, just like dolphins and tuna. Living in water should give the clue that they are a fish based lifeform.


My mistake, I was confusing whales with donkeys again. Carry on.

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PostRe: Shark swims and lands on beach in New Jersey
by Moggy » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:56 am

JK wrote:
Moggy wrote:
JK wrote:
Moggy wrote:Whales are just sharks without teeth though. So your saying that sharks used to live on land but are shocked when one tries to go back to land?


They're not, sharks are a completely different evolutionary line to whales. Whales are mammals for a start.


Whales are not mammals like humans. They are fish, just like dolphins and tuna. Living in water should give the clue that they are a fish based lifeform.


My mistake, I was confusing whales with donkeys again. Carry on.


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PostRe: Shark swims and lands on beach in New Jersey
by Shadow » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:57 am

Hexx wrote:Sharks scare me :(


I didn't realise I was scared of sharks until I went to Sea Life centre last week. :lol:

I used to be terrified when I was younger, but hadn't seen a shark since I was about 14 when I last went to Sea World, but last week I took the kids to Sea Life centre and as soon as I walked into the shark bit and there was this five foot shark staring at me I froze, came over in a cold sweat and had to shuffle through the tunnel bit looking at my feet. :cry:

Now every time I see so much of a picture of a shark it brings me out in a cold sweat. :cry:

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PostRe: Shark swims and lands on beach in New Jersey
by Gandalf » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:57 am

Moggy wrote:
JK wrote:
Moggy wrote:Whales are just sharks without teeth though. So your saying that sharks used to live on land but are shocked when one tries to go back to land?


They're not, sharks are a completely different evolutionary line to whales. Whales are mammals for a start.


Whales are not mammals like humans. They are fish, just like dolphins and tuna. Living in water should give the clue that they are a fish based lifeform.


Eh? They're still mammals though. So how come whales have to surface for air. Sharks don't as they're fish.

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PostRe: Shark swims and lands on beach in New Jersey
by G-Rat » Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:00 pm

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It begins.

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PostRe: Shark swims and lands on beach in New Jersey
by Scotticus Erroticus » Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:16 pm

Moggy wrote:
Igor wrote:
Scotticus Erroticus wrote:
Igor wrote:
Scotticus Erroticus wrote:Mammals came out from the sea, in fact all life did. Perhaps this shark is just showing a bit of the behaviour that eventually led to all sea-life moving from the water to the land? It's a perfectly point to make.


Evolution doesn't work that way, Scott.


How? All animals at some point show behaviourl changes over thousands of years. What's to say that this fish isn't confusing its instincts here?


Are you pulling my leg or something?


No he is serious. In order for animals to colonise the land, it needs one brave creature to venture out of the water and test out what life is like in the air. This brave shark is the first of many to try this experiment and is going to be known as a pioneer of shark kind. Of course the whales have been testing for years but humans ruin the experiment by putting them back in the water. :fp:



Yes, because that's EXACTLY what I said and meant. strawberry floating hell.

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PostRe: Shark swims and lands on beach in New Jersey
by Igor » Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:23 pm

What did you mean then?

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PostRe: Shark swims and lands on beach in New Jersey
by Scotticus Erroticus » Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:35 pm

You think I'm going to get back into this conversation? :lol: strawberry float that, bye.

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PostRe: Shark swims and lands on beach in New Jersey
by Igor » Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:46 pm

Hey, no need to get in a huff. Obviously we misunderstood you when you said that a shark that has remained unchanged for about 5million years could 'go against its instincts' and decide to 'evolve'.

It's like an elephant jumping off a cliff in an effort to evolve into a bird.

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PostRe: Shark swims and lands on beach in New Jersey
by Moggy » Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:49 pm

Scotticus Erroticus wrote:
Yes, because that's EXACTLY what I said and meant. strawberry floating hell.


I am just bored at work mate so was playing the fool. Didn’t mean any offence!

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