Sir Philip Green named over sexual harassment claims

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PostSir Philip Green named over sexual harassment claims
by Gemini73 » Thu Oct 25, 2018 5:57 pm

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45981436

With any luck this will be what finally brings this deplorable tosspot down.

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PostRe: Sir Philip Green named over sexual harassment claims
by Rex Kramer » Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:19 pm

So it's not just the BHS staff pension pot that he tried to strawberry float then. Makes sense.

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PostRe: Sir Philip Green named over sexual harassment claims
by Meep » Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:23 pm

I am shocked. Shocked, I tell you.

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PostRe: Sir Philip Green named over sexual harassment claims
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PostRe: Sir Philip Green named over sexual harassment claims
by Vermilion » Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:48 pm

The panda is sad once again.

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PostRe: Sir Philip Green named over sexual harassment claims
by Gemini73 » Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:41 am

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co ... k-45987084

Having to defend the decision to reveal a sexual deviant, a racist and a bully to the public. :fp:

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PostRe: Sir Philip Green named over sexual harassment claims
by KK » Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:59 am

Alan Johnson was quite critical of him on This Week last night, which was kinda surprising. The founder of Hacked Off didn't think it was the right decision either. It's like whose side are they on here.

Good to see proper journalism return to The Telegraph again, it's been a while.

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PostRe: Sir Philip Green named over sexual harassment claims
by Corazon de Leon » Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:07 am

I think the idea is that the houses of Lords and Parliament shouldn't be able to use their privilege to circumvent the laws and courts of the land - I don't necessarily disagree with that but on the other hand I don't feel like Green should be afforded much protection by the law.

This was discussed during the super-injunction farce as well, IIRC.

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PostRe: Sir Philip Green named over sexual harassment claims
by Gemini73 » Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:20 am

Indeed. I think where sexual harassment and/or an abuse of power by wealthy businessmen occurs said people should not be afforded the "luxury" of NDAs. So in this instance I'm totally on the side of the MP.

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PostRe: Sir Philip Green named over sexual harassment claims
by Moggy » Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:23 am

I am sure there are good reasons for having NDAs, injunctions and super injunctions but this isn’t one of them.

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PostRe: Sir Philip Green named over sexual harassment claims
by Saint of Killers » Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:28 am

It's amazing how something that so resembles a living, breathing sleazeball has turned out to be just that :o

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PostRe: Sir Philip Green named over sexual harassment claims
by Saint of Killers » Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:32 am

Moggy wrote:I am sure there are good reasons for having NDAs, injunctions and super injunctions but this isn’t one of them.


Isn't there a law which says whistleblowers cannot be acted against by the people/company who'll be affected by it? That law should be extended to employees whistleblowing personal harassment even if a NDA has been signed.

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PostRe: Sir Philip Green named over sexual harassment claims
by Hexx » Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:34 am

Gemini73 wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-45987084

Having to defend the decision to reveal a sexual deviant, a racist and a bully to the public. :fp:


It's a bit tricky as far as I can see - as some (I don't think it's all?) of the people directly affected didn't want it made public - and the injunction was only temporary while final decision made.

twitter.com/BarristerSecret/status/1055463984411930624



I don't think injunctions should be used to cover up sexual abuse, bullying etc - but I'm also conflicted about a politician cutting across accusations and situations several very senior judges were still looking at (and looking at all the evidence, arguments).

I'm uneasy with the concept of a single member of Parliament deciding "the courts have got it wrong on the laws Parliament put in place, and I'm going to overrule them". This is certainly an emotive topic - but I'm not sure that's a good thing.

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PostRe: Sir Philip Green named over sexual harassment claims
by pjbetman » Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:07 am

Saint of Killers wrote:
Moggy wrote:I am sure there are good reasons for having NDAs, injunctions and super injunctions but this isn’t one of them.


Isn't there a law which says whistleblowers cannot be acted against by the people/company who'll be affected by it? That law should be extended to employees whistleblowing personal harassment even if a NDA has been signed.


Surely an NDA is just for civil cases, such as trade secrets, intellectual property etc. How can it affect the investigation or reporting of a criminal case?

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PostRe: Sir Philip Green named over sexual harassment claims
by Drumstick » Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:07 am

The concepts of NDA and injunctions need massive reform. For example, the government being able to blackmail charities into keeping quiet concerning the Universal Credit scheme. That should categorically not be allowed and/or legally enforceable.

Another example, Ryan Giggs’ extra-marital affairs. He shouldn’t have been able to strongarm the media like he did (for a while, at least). Tough gooseberry fool, you strawberry floated up, you pay the consequences.

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PostRe: Sir Philip Green named over sexual harassment claims
by Hexx » Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:14 am

pjbetman wrote:
Saint of Killers wrote:
Moggy wrote:I am sure there are good reasons for having NDAs, injunctions and super injunctions but this isn’t one of them.


Isn't there a law which says whistleblowers cannot be acted against by the people/company who'll be affected by it? That law should be extended to employees whistleblowing personal harassment even if a NDA has been signed.


Surely an NDA is just for civil cases, such as trade secrets, intellectual property etc. How can it affect the investigation or reporting of a criminal case?


Because these weren't criminal cases?

They were internal formal complaints by employees (I think - please correct if I'm wrong). The were shut down/settled and NDA. I'm not even sure they were "investigated" as such.

Green's statement (to me) is very very telling when he says denies unlawful sexual or racist behaviour

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PostRe: Sir Philip Green named over sexual harassment claims
by pjbetman » Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:22 am

Hexx wrote:
pjbetman wrote:
Saint of Killers wrote:
Moggy wrote:I am sure there are good reasons for having NDAs, injunctions and super injunctions but this isn’t one of them.


Isn't there a law which says whistleblowers cannot be acted against by the people/company who'll be affected by it? That law should be extended to employees whistleblowing personal harassment even if a NDA has been signed.


Surely an NDA is just for civil cases, such as trade secrets, intellectual property etc. How can it affect the investigation or reporting of a criminal case?


Because these weren't criminal cases?

They were internal formal complaints by employees (I think - please correct if I'm wrong). The were shut down/settled and NDA. I'm not even sure they were "investigated" as such.

Green's statement (to me) is very very telling when he says denies unlawful sexual or racist behaviour



Oh right, thought some of them were sexual harassment and assault cases.

EDIT: Yes, only harassment cases. But what about the racial stuff? Is that not considered criminal these days?

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PostRe: Sir Philip Green named over sexual harassment claims
by Hexx » Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:48 am

pjbetman wrote:
Hexx wrote:
pjbetman wrote:
Saint of Killers wrote:
Moggy wrote:I am sure there are good reasons for having NDAs, injunctions and super injunctions but this isn’t one of them.


Isn't there a law which says whistleblowers cannot be acted against by the people/company who'll be affected by it? That law should be extended to employees whistleblowing personal harassment even if a NDA has been signed.


Surely an NDA is just for civil cases, such as trade secrets, intellectual property etc. How can it affect the investigation or reporting of a criminal case?


Because these weren't criminal cases?

They were internal formal complaints by employees (I think - please correct if I'm wrong). The were shut down/settled and NDA. I'm not even sure they were "investigated" as such.

Green's statement (to me) is very very telling when he says denies unlawful sexual or racist behaviour



Oh right, thought some of them were sexual harassment and assault cases.

EDIT: Yes, only harassment cases. But what about the racial stuff? Is that not considered criminal these days?


I don't know - I've read the same stuff.

I still just found the "unlawful" caveat in his defense really pointed

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PostRe: Sir Philip Green named over sexual harassment claims
by coldspice » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:46 pm

But he seemed like such a nice guy.

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PostRe: Sir Philip Green named over sexual harassment claims
by Gemini73 » Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:00 pm

Just saw this at work. Such an unfortunate picture for Mr Green. :lol:

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