Siren Blood Curse

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by mitch » Mon Aug 18, 2008 3:35 pm

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Daniel wrote:Not like theres much else coming on PS3 in the next few weeks


Uh... Ratchet this Thursday?

I bought Siren, and I like the episode divisions. I'm a great big vagina when it comes to horror games, so the bite-size chunks are exactly how I usually play these things. Still haven't started Episode 3, mind. The thought of playing a defenseless little girl gives me the chills.


Horror games are probably my favourite game genre, but I can not play them for a long, especially if I am alone. The episodic structure has been bliss for me! Just about to play Episode 5.

The village has it's problems, but it's good to see they built homes with proper doors and locks. None of the 'The lock is broken' door nonsense that plagues most horror games!

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by Hulohot » Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:14 pm

One of the things I love most is how Sixaxis is used. When a Shibito pounces on me I end up going MENTAL waving the controller about like a madman trying to break free. And when holding a door shut, shaking the controller violently as the Shibito tries to get in is such an awesome feeling.

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by Mafro » Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:33 pm

Oh god, in the hospital again :cry:

I love the sight jacking in this game, its tense as hell watching yourself being hunted down while at the same time you are running from them. Some of the executions are brutal, reminds me of Manhunt.

Oh, this tv ad for it:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/37496.html

:shock:

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by Jimmy Shedders » Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:33 pm

I'm just about to start this.


You can tell a game is gonna scare the living gooseberry fool out of you when even the strawberry floating screen before you even load the game freaks you out.

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by Thongings » Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:34 pm

Jimmy Shedders wrote:I'm just about to start this.


You can tell a game is gonna scare the living gooseberry fool out of you when even the strawberry floating screen before you even load the game freaks you out.


Oh yes, the shrieking girl on the XMB icon? *shudder*

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by Jimmy Shedders » Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:37 pm

Aye. I left it installing and went to get a drink, and came back to that. :lol:


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by Mafro » Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:48 pm

There is one brilliant scare moment in this that I though was genuis. I think its:

The beginning of chapter 7 or 8 when you are back in the hospital with Bella and her mum. There is a mannequin next to you but due to the camera's positioning, you can't see it to start off with but as soon as you move THERE IT IS.


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by Thongings » Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:00 pm

Jimmy Shedders wrote:Aye. I left it installing and went to get a drink, and came back to that. :lol:


:cry:


First time I heard it, I had my surround sound on but not the telly. So all I heard was the crying girl with no idea where it was coming from. gooseberry fool me keks, so I did.

You'll love it Jimmy. :twisted:

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PostRe: Siren Blood Curse
by Shocker » Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:53 pm

I was tempted to download this last night but decided against it as I don't want to be stuck with a game that I can't trade in. When is the Blu-ray release?

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by Jimmy Shedders » Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:16 pm

Holy shitting bollocks. :shock: :cry:

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by Jimmy Shedders » Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:41 pm

This game is scaring the living strawberry float out of me, and I'm only on Chapter 2.

I don't like the noises the Shibito make. :cry:

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by Hulohot » Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:43 pm

Jimmy Shedders wrote:This game is scaring the living strawberry float out of me, and I'm only on Chapter 2.

I don't like the noises the Shibito make. :cry:


:lol: I found it got less scary as you go on. As long as you have a weapon you can easily mow down any Shibito you come across.

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by Tragic Magic » Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:22 am

How do you buy this? Off PSN? Do you need a credit card or can you use debit? This'll decide if I get a PS3 now or later.

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by Pez » Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:30 am

Tragic Magic wrote:How do you buy this? Off PSN? Do you need a credit card or can you use debit? This'll decide if I get a PS3 now or later.


You get it off PSN for £19.99 and can use either credit or debit to pay. I use a Maestro and it works fine.

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by Tragic Magic » Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:32 am

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Tragic Magic wrote:How do you buy this? Off PSN? Do you need a credit card or can you use debit? This'll decide if I get a PS3 now or later.


You get it off PSN for £19.99 and can use either credit or debit to pay. I use a Maestro and it works fine.


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by Raze » Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:43 pm

I finished this last night... I'm not entirely sure what I make of it all.

The ending was quite clever, even if you do have to read the archive items for it to make any sense (like who Bella turned out to be). I loved the movie references with Howard (he was tooled up as a mix between something from Star Wars and Evil Dead's Ash... Army of Darkness also has a similar time travel plot, which I guess is why they did that). I didn't really find it scary (or even unsettling) at many points though, a lot of the moments that should've been tense just became annoying when I had to retry them over and over (like Bella at the gate). Plus the whole 'hunt out some brain shibito' mechanic was a bit tedious. And most of the last chapter was pretty awful, gameplay-wise. Levels with NPCs that could die were too flukey as well.

It was still a lot better than Forbidden Siren, but nowhere near FS2. Probably around a 7 or 8 out of ten still though, but it lacked any of the real genius moments that made Siren 2 so special (which I won't mention since a lot of people haven't played it). Enjoyable, though.

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by Jimmy Shedders » Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:51 pm

This is the first game in a long time to actually freak the gooseberry fool out of me. :oops:

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by Raze » Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:52 pm

Jimmy: Never play Forbidden Siren 2. It makes this one look like Viva Pinata: Party Animals.

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by Thongings » Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:52 pm

Raze wrote:I finished this last night... I'm not entirely sure what I make of it all.

The ending was quite clever, even if you do have to read the archive items for it to make any sense (like who Bella turned out to be). I loved the movie references with Howard (he was tooled up as a mix between something from Star Wars and Evil Dead's Ash... Army of Darkness also has a similar time travel plot, which I guess is why they did that). I didn't really find it scary (or even unsettling) at many points though, a lot of the moments that should've been tense just became annoying when I had to retry them over and over (like Bella at the gate). Plus the whole 'hunt out some brain shibito' mechanic was a bit tedious. And most of the last chapter was pretty awful, gameplay-wise. Levels with NPCs that could die were too flukey as well.

It was still a lot better than Forbidden Siren, but nowhere near FS2. Probably around a 7 or 8 out of ten still though, but it lacked any of the real genius moments that made Siren 2 so special (which I won't mention since a lot of people haven't played it). Enjoyable, though.


I'd agree with pretty much all of that, Raze. Except for the fact that I haven't played FS2, so I think I enjoyed this more than you did without that comparison to make. And I did find it pretty scary, particularly at the beginning. As always though, as time goes on that scare factor goes away.

That's the things with video games, you have to really pull of something special to make the scares last the entire length of a game. I've played plenty of scary games, and I can't think of one that was terrifying the whole way through. Siren did give it a good go imo, and there were some standout moments for me.

Little things, like at the beginning of the chapter when you have to break into the Shibito nest under lightning. It's pitch-black and I'm wandering towards the house. A flash of lightning casts light on a Shibito right next to me that I had no idea was there. That put the gooseberry fools up me. It helps that it was something of a fluke as I replayed that section and it didn't happen. It's something that will always work better than scripted stuff imo, little scares that may happen to only you. Very difficult to make happen organically from a designer's point of view I'd imagine!


From what you're saying though, I may just have to hunt down a copy of FS2.

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by Raze » Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:02 pm

There were definitely scary moments, but like you said they often happened at random... and I found they often led to death, making them less scary if they occurred again. The chapter with Bella in the house is a good example; I hid in the closet for ages, just watching all the Shibito, eventually made my way out, then the second I stepped out the closet a Shibito decided to walk into the room, instantly failing the level. After attempting to keep an eye on all of them for a few tries, then failing when one would randomly decide to walk somewhere else, I just got out the closet right away, walked upstairs, hid, and had pretty much a clear run for the window. Creeping around the sleeping Shibito was tense... then ruined by the fact that if you failed the gate unlocking part, it started you back in that room. After creeping past it 8 times it didn't feel so tense any more. :(

The beginning was scarier though, yeah. I just think it lost a lot of the tension when you realise that as long as you've got a weapon the Shibito aren't really much of a threat. The best levels were the ones set in/around the mine. As Saiga, I came up out the mine into the elevator control room to see the nurse brain shibito just standing there, staring at the bikini posters and screaming. Stuff like that was pretty ace.

I also had an amusing moment on one of those levels, where my goal was to 'lure the pursuer out of the underground' by using the Siren. I was looking for the Siren key and climbed up this ladder, only to see a Shibito standing at the top. I quickly shot him... turns out he was the pursuer, which led to me completing the level with no idea how or why. :lol: I then replayed it and did it properly. 8-)


Yeah, try FS2, and if you can find it, Project Zero 3 too. I think that may have been even scarier than FS2.


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