A Song of Ice and Fire

PostRe: A Song of Ice and Fire by **Kanbei** » Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:25 pm

Memento Mori » Wed Jun 18, 2014 8:55 pm wrote:
chalkitdown » Wed Jun 18, 2014 8:50 pm wrote:I guess this is why the Dany storyline is draaggggginnngg along so slowly, then?

And they've already started on her book 5 stuff as of that ep. Dany book 5 chapters were arguably the worst writing that GRRM's ever produced.

Yes. The worst I would say are the Brienne chapters, I'm actually quite thankful they've given Brienne something interesting to do (for now). Her travels looking for Sansa when we knew she was going the wrong way was just utterly painful and pointless to read.

PostRe: A Song of Ice and Fire by **Irene Demova** » Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:32 pm

That's what reading Ned's chapters is like when you already know his fate, what a maroon

PostRe: A Song of Ice and Fire by **Memento Mori** » Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:35 pm

Brienne's FFC arc does have a couple of interesting events though (Rorge and Biter fights) and the finale is great.

In DWD the only interesting thing which happens to Dany is Drogon in the fighting pit.

PostRe: A Song of Ice and Fire by **Jay Adama** » Wed Jun 18, 2014 11:46 pm

So although they talked about Tysha in Season 1 of the show, they didn't have Jamie reveal that she wasn't really a whore in Season 4. Nor did they have Tyrion reveal to Jamie that Cersei had been strawberry floating Lancel (and Moonboy too for all I know).

PostRe: A Song of Ice and Fire by **Tafdolphin** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 3:44 am

Jay Adama » Wed Jun 18, 2014 11:46 pm wrote:So although they talked about Tysha in Season 1 of the show, they didn't have Jamie reveal that she wasn't really a whore in Season 4. Nor did they have Tyrion reveal to Jamie that Cersei had been strawberry floating Lancel (and Moonboy too for all I know).

Yep, this confused me too. It's a massive character arc for Tyrion in the books but has been completely glossed over here. Odd.

PostRe: A Song of Ice and Fire by **Memento Mori** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:24 am

Tafdolphin » Thu Jun 19, 2014 3:44 am wrote:
Jay Adama » Wed Jun 18, 2014 11:46 pm wrote:So although they talked about Tysha in Season 1 of the show, they didn't have Jamie reveal that she wasn't really a whore in Season 4. Nor did they have Tyrion reveal to Jamie that Cersei had been strawberry floating Lancel (and Moonboy too for all I know).

Yep, this confused me too. It's a massive character arc for Tyrion in the books but has been completely glossed over here. Odd.

SOS Tysha is also the reason Tyrion goes to find Tywin.

PostRe: A Song of Ice and Fire by **Wedgie** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:52 am

I blame the running time and the amount of stuff they have to cram in, tbh.

PostRe: A Song of Ice and Fire by **Denster** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 1:49 pm

Nah. That doesn't wash with me. As i said before the Cersei/ Tywin and Jaime scenes beforehand were completely unnecessary. To think they were added at the expense of this pisses me off.

Tyrion's whole attitude and lifestyle is shaped by his relationship with his father and his resentment at the 'sharp lesson' he received (Tysha). They should have put it in.

PostRe: A Song of Ice and Fire by **Jay Adama** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:25 pm

It also changes the relationship between Tyrion and Jamie as essentially Jamie just stood by and let Tysha get train ganged by the Lannister army knowing she wasn't a whore which Tyrion is obviously not cool with.

PostRe: A Song of Ice and Fire by **Memento Mori** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:58 pm

Wedgie » Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:52 am wrote:I blame the running time and the amount of stuff they have to cram in, tbh.

Yeah that five minute discussion about beetles was vital to the narrative. Instead of that they could have had (SOS) Tyrion bringing up Tysha again thus making Jaime feel guilty and having him confess in the finale.

PostRe: A Song of Ice and Fire by **Irene Demova** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:40 pm

The moment in A Game of Thrones when 200 or pages of bliss are broken by Martin remembering Bran exists and giving him a chapter :dread:

PostRe: A Song of Ice and Fire by **Memento Mori** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:43 pm

There's one book where Bran only has like three chapters.

PostRe: A Song of Ice and Fire by **Irene Demova** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:47 pm

He doesn't have more than five in this, the first book, but they're all so bad. Sansa's almost as bad because he clearly can't write a spoiled girl without making them seem like the stupidest person in the world but she's redeemed by always having glimpses of moving beyond that.

At least Ned's idiocy is funny

PostRe: A Song of Ice and Fire by **Denster** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 5:03 am

Yours isn't.

PostRe: A Song of Ice and Fire by **Memento Mori** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:48 am

Irene Demova » Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:47 pm wrote:He doesn't have more than five in this, the first book, but they're all so bad. Sansa's almost as bad because he clearly can't write a spoiled girl without making them seem like the stupidest person in the world but she's redeemed by always having glimpses of moving beyond that.

At least Ned's idiocy is funny

I don't think Sansa's spoilt it's just she's been fed all these fairy tales about princesses and gallant knights and she thinks the world is really like that.

PostRe: A Song of Ice and Fire by **Irene Demova** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:28 am

Denster » Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:03 am wrote:Yours isn't.

You're such a strawberry floating crybaby when someone doesn't have the exact same opinion as you about fantasy novels or shitty batman films

PostRe: A Song of Ice and Fire by **Wedgie** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:48 am

Incredible She-Hulk moment there, Irene? :lol:

PostRe: A Song of Ice and Fire by **Irene Demova** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:53 am

That's Sensational She-Hulk to you m8

PostRe: A Song of Ice and Fire by **Wedgie** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 12:05 pm

PostRe: A Song of Ice and Fire by **Denster** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 12:49 pm

Irene Demova » Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:28 am wrote:
Denster » Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:03 am wrote:Yours isn't.

You're such a strawberry floating crybaby when someone doesn't have the exact same opinion as you about fantasy novels or shitty batman films

Go on ask me about my coffee machine - I dare you.

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