Succession

PostRe: Succession by **sawyerpip** » Mon May 22, 2023 8:19 pm

Memento Mori wrote:4x09- Here comes Chekhov's security chief.

I think I would be disappointed if the accident with the waiter plays a significant part of the finale. It felt like the emotional climax of that plot thread was Kendall confessing to his siblings at the end of season 3, it doesn't feel like it would be particularly interesting to revisit, especially if it ends up playing a big role in Kendall's downfall.

PostRe: Succession by **Dual** » Tue May 23, 2023 11:28 am

No sympathy for Roman at all.

PostRe: Succession by **BTB** » Tue May 23, 2023 12:26 pm

Feels like the acting has taken a real step up this season (not that i thought previous seasons were bad)!
Every episode has had some amazingly acted scenes in it.

PostRe: Succession by **Dual** » Tue May 23, 2023 2:01 pm

BTB wrote:Feels like the acting has taken a real step up this season (not that i thought previous seasons were bad)!
Every episode has had some amazingly acted scenes in it.

All the scenes where its Tom v Shiv are incredible.

PostRe: Succession by **Tomous** » Tue May 23, 2023 2:08 pm

Dual wrote:
BTB wrote:Feels like the acting has taken a real step up this season (not that i thought previous seasons were bad)!
Every episode has had some amazingly acted scenes in it.

All the scenes where its Tom v Shiv are incredible.

Yep. I had Roman down as the standout but those 2 have overtaken especially after The Argument.

PostRe: Succession by **sawyerpip** » Mon May 29, 2023 6:39 am

They did it. Absolutely nailed the ending. One of the best shows of all time.

PostRe: Succession by **Skarjo** » Mon May 29, 2023 6:42 am

I've watched this whole show from the beginning for the first time over the last two weeks and can't wait to see the finale!

Lots of people at work are watching it and I keep being asked what 'Team' I'm on and apparently Team 'They're All strawberry floating Horrible Humans and I Hate Them All Evenly' is not valid.

PostRe: Succession by **Memento Mori** » Mon May 29, 2023 11:42 am

sawyerpip wrote:They did it. Absolutely nailed the ending. One of the best shows of all time.

What an ending.

4x10- That really uncomfortable scene with the three kids in the office at the end (and the one before it where Kendall deliberately breaks Roman's stitches) doesn't hit anywhere near as hard without the earlier charming scene at Caroline's house where they share a rare moment as siblings.

Absolutely brutal.

PostRe: Succession by **sawyerpip** » Mon May 29, 2023 1:45 pm

Memento Mori wrote:
sawyerpip wrote:They did it. Absolutely nailed the ending. One of the best shows of all time.

What an ending.

4x10- That really uncomfortable scene with the three kids in the office at the end (and the one before it where Kendall deliberately breaks Roman's stitches) doesn't hit anywhere near as hard without the earlier charming scene at Caroline's house where they share a rare moment as siblings.

Absolutely brutal.

Yes, as we were watching it I said to my wife that the kitchen scene felt like their 'happy ending' scene before things were going to fall apart somehow at the board meeting. Those final scenes were so difficult to watch. Just fantastic writing.

PostRe: Succession by **speedboatchase** » Mon May 29, 2023 2:49 pm

Hmm.

PostRe: Succession by **Dual** » Mon May 29, 2023 10:48 pm

What a show. I'm genuinely upset it's over lol

PostRe: Succession by **Tomous** » Mon May 29, 2023 11:13 pm

speedboatchase wrote:Hmm.

I get that my 'Kendall becomes the new Logan/Greg fires Tom' prediction for the finale is likely exactly what the showrunners wanted a lot of us to think, but I feel like the last-minute Shiv pivot felt a bit too melodramatic for a show this nuanced. I have no problem in where the finale landed all of the characters but the telling of it wasn't as seamless as in previous seasons. A few examples:

Roman and Kendall cementing Menckin meant nothing in the end? He was fine all along in dealing with Shiv and Mattson?
The GoJo numbers in India being fake had no impact on the deal?
Frank, having heard of the 'reverse viking' plan in secret and having always been on Kendall's side, goes with GoJo for some reason?
Conor, who stood up for Willa time and time again, seems resigned to the fact that his marriage is fake and everyone else was right?

To me, the 'shock' of the final 15 mins or so was put ahead of showing rather than telling certain aspects of the full story arcs for each character. So in that sense, a little unsatisfying.

I was actually glad that Logan died soon early in the season so that the show wouldn't become repetitive like Dexter or House of Cards where the antihero comes out on top, but instead I'm thinking an eventual rewatch will be repetitive in a new way: watching Kendall get a head of steam every season and then be left with his d*** in his hands in the finale.

Shiv's actions make perfect sense to me.

Matsson screwed her so she jumped on the Kendall train to strawberry float him because she was upset and angry, and still trying to cling to some kind of power. But when she saw Kendall take Logan's chair and act like dick (he couldnt stop himself before they'd even had the vote!) she started to have a moment of clarity. Take the multi billion dollar payout or be forever tied to Kendall, who for all his strengths had plenty of weaknesses and ultimately, just isnt Logan. And if she wasnt 100% sure before she ran out the vote, she certainly was after Kendall's breakdown trying to keep her on side.

PostRe: Succession by **Tomous** » Mon May 29, 2023 11:19 pm

I don't think I've ever seen a character so perfectly summed up in just 4 words

I'M THE ELDEST BOY!

PostRe: Succession by **Moggy** » Tue May 30, 2023 9:53 am

Skarjo wrote:Team 'They're All strawberry floating Horrible Humans and I Hate Them All Evenly'

The correct answer.

A great final episode to cap off a great season. Overall, it's not in my top shows of all time, but it was very very good.

I like that so much of it didn't make logical sense and that threads were left open. That's real life.

Roman talking about Kendal's adopted kids was strawberry floating brutal :lol:

PostRe: Succession by **Captain Kinopio** » Tue May 30, 2023 12:22 pm

Brilliant finale.

Put me down in the slightly unsatisfied with how it all shook out though. I mean I don't feel unsatisfied because it was brilliant but if I were to have a pop at it I'd say.

It was just a repeat of the board meeting in S2 where Kendall tries to take over. Also Shivs turn seemed to come out of nowhere.

I like that Tom got it though, just an empty shell of a human.

PostRe: Succession by **poshrule_uk** » Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:04 pm

PostRe: Succession by **sawyerpip** » Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:58 pm

poshrule_uk wrote:
It was great seeing Kendall break down at the end.

PostRe: Succession by **poshrule_uk** » Mon Jun 05, 2023 9:44 pm

sawyerpip wrote:
poshrule_uk wrote:
It was great seeing Kendall break down at the end.

Great is definitely not the word I would use, I found the scene between the three of them at the end genuinely difficult to watch

PostRe: Succession by **Moggy** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 3:18 pm

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PostRe: Succession by **Memento Mori** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 3:19 pm

HE'S THE OLDEST BOY

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