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Re: Switch Lite | A party in your (cargo) pocket

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:38 pm
by Mafro
gamerforever wrote:
Mafro wrote:
gamerforever wrote:
Tomous wrote:
gamerforever wrote:Its not a switch anymore. Should have released a new 3ds or gameboy, not this crap.



How would that make any sense, they'd have to start making games for another system them :lol:


This will sell loads of extra consoles they wouldn't have otherwise sold, it's a great business decision.


It won’t sell as well as they want it to imo. This is why i dislike the new nintendo. This product is awful.

How thick do you have to be to say this when there's a new Pokemon game coming out :lol:

And that revised Switch news just sounds like a whole lot of nothing, just the general hardware revisions a product gets throughout its lifetime. Bet you won't even be able to know which one you're ordering.


Clearly not as thick as you. Lets see how it sells and you will shut up.

gotten to.

Re: Switch Lite | A party in your (cargo) pocket

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:50 pm
by Yoshimi
Can't believe they removed TV connectivity.

They could have sold a dock separately, and they would have sold a gooseberry fool load of pro controllers too.

Re: Switch Lite | A party in your (cargo) pocket

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:35 pm
by gamerforever
Yoshimi wrote:Can't believe they removed TV connectivity.

They could have sold a dock separately, and they would have sold a gooseberry fool load of pro controllers too.


I think they’re releasing a separate controller for this. You’d have to be pretty silly to buy this instead of the standard switch.

I don’t think we will get a switch pro until late 2021 after this news.

Re: Switch Lite | A party in your (cargo) pocket

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:41 pm
by Ad7
The next person to call it switch pro is going on the list.

Re: Switch Lite | A party in your (cargo) pocket

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:53 pm
by OrangeRKN
Can't wait for the Switch Pro

Re: Switch Lite | A party in your (cargo) pocket

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:59 pm
by Rax
I do love when Nintendo announces new hardware and the usual suspects waddle in not understanding it and decrying it as a terrible idea. Keep up the good work folks.

Its not for me but I can see the appeal of it, if they get the price point right and its a solid construction then it will do very well. Im interested to see what the battery life is like, Im assuming since this is pegged as a pure handheld theyve been able to make it last longer than the Switch.

Re: Switch Lite | A party in your (cargo) pocket

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:17 pm
by Tomous
Rax wrote:I do love when Nintendo announces new hardware and the usual suspects waddle in not understanding it and decrying it as a terrible idea. Keep up the good work folks.

Its not for me but I can see the appeal of it, if they get the price point right and its a solid construction then it will do very well. Im interested to see what the battery life is like, Im assuming since this is pegged as a pure handheld theyve been able to make it last longer than the Switch.


Switch was said to be 2.5-6.5 hours (although I don't know how anyone is getting 6 hours out of it. Maybe leaving it on the menu screen with the brightness turned down and airplane mode on...)

Nintendo are saying 3-7 hours for this.

Obviously depends on the game but Nintendo have said Lite will give you 4 hours on BOTW-depending on their estimate of 3 on the original Switch, so 25% improvement probably isn't a bad rule of thumb.

Re: Switch Lite | A party in your (cargo) pocket

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:27 pm
by Qikz
I'm almost tempted to get one of these despite the fact I'm fine carrying my normal switch around.

Re: Switch Lite | A party in your (cargo) pocket

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:46 pm
by ianfianf
gamerforever wrote:
Mafro wrote:
gamerforever wrote:
Tomous wrote:
gamerforever wrote:Its not a switch anymore. Should have released a new 3ds or gameboy, not this crap.



How would that make any sense, they'd have to start making games for another system them :lol:


This will sell loads of extra consoles they wouldn't have otherwise sold, it's a great business decision.


It won’t sell as well as they want it to imo. This is why i dislike the new nintendo. This product is awful.

How thick do you have to be to say this when there's a new Pokemon game coming out :lol:

And that revised Switch news just sounds like a whole lot of nothing, just the general hardware revisions a product gets throughout its lifetime. Bet you won't even be able to know which one you're ordering.


Clearly not as thick as you. Lets see how it sells and you will shut up.


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Re: Switch Lite | A party in your (cargo) pocket

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:58 pm
by Ad7
Evidently not a true gamer.

Re: Switch Lite | A party in your (cargo) pocket

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:00 pm
by Captain Kinopio
Pedz wrote:
jawafour wrote:
Hyperion wrote:So are future games going to be borked so they can be played on this?

I suspect that very few games will now be made that use the rumble or infrared camera features to any great extent... although, to be fair, I've never been that impressed by the "HD rumble" aspect and the IR capability is barely used anyway. Even so, these features push up the price of the joy-con and yet they're not really going to be used now.

A few folk have mentioned that the smaller Lite screen makes some text harder to read in some games (even though the resolution is the same as the Switch) so maybe future games will be developed with this in mind.

I'm unsure about the Lite. I like the idea but the result isn't really what I'd expected; the loss of the basic "Switch" premise of the system seems, to me, to be an odd move. I can see that the new machine is just a way of appealing to another sector of potential customers but... no screen switching? Hmmn.


HD Rumble is strawberry floating awesome when used well. Like, 1-2-Shit is gooseberry fool, but the Ice Cube and Marble games really show how cool a feature it is. IR pointer would have been perfect for Metroid Prime 4. The Wii versions of the Prime games are much better than the cube version (IMO) due to the pointer.


Isn't the IR sensor on the wrong side of the controller?

Re: Switch Lite | A party in your (cargo) pocket

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:42 pm
by Pedz
Captain Kinopio wrote:
Pedz wrote:
jawafour wrote:
Hyperion wrote:So are future games going to be borked so they can be played on this?

I suspect that very few games will now be made that use the rumble or infrared camera features to any great extent... although, to be fair, I've never been that impressed by the "HD rumble" aspect and the IR capability is barely used anyway. Even so, these features push up the price of the joy-con and yet they're not really going to be used now.

A few folk have mentioned that the smaller Lite screen makes some text harder to read in some games (even though the resolution is the same as the Switch) so maybe future games will be developed with this in mind.

I'm unsure about the Lite. I like the idea but the result isn't really what I'd expected; the loss of the basic "Switch" premise of the system seems, to me, to be an odd move. I can see that the new machine is just a way of appealing to another sector of potential customers but... no screen switching? Hmmn.


HD Rumble is strawberry floating awesome when used well. Like, 1-2-Shit is gooseberry fool, but the Ice Cube and Marble games really show how cool a feature it is. IR pointer would have been perfect for Metroid Prime 4. The Wii versions of the Prime games are much better than the cube version (IMO) due to the pointer.


Isn't the IR sensor on the wrong side of the controller?


Possibly, I don't really use the joycon and use the pro controller. I also don't play it handheld.

Re: Switch Lite | A party in your (cargo) pocket

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:17 pm
by Monkey Man
"Mike Heskin, known hacker and dataminer who has worked on a big number of Nintendo Switch hacking projects, has revealed on Twitter a number of details of the upcoming new Nintendo Switch models, as information about them has been in the OS for a long time now."



Since firmware 5.0 there has been support for three hardware lines, one with the original Tegra 210 and two for the new Tegra 214 (Mariko)
Those two hardware lines are Switch Lite and Switch "New".
The original Switch has 4GB of RAM and 6GB for the devkit. The new models have support for both 4GB and 8GB (probably for the Dev Kit) of RAM.
Both Switch Lite and "New" use LPDDR4X DRAM which grants a small battery boost due to lower voltages.
Switch Lite has a smaller screen and non-detachable controllers while "New" Switch should have the exact same form factor.
The GPU in the "New" Switch is clocked at higher values than Switch Lite, potentially giving a modest performance boost.
Larger than 32GB memory is possible in the "New" units. Two models have been found in the firmware (codenames "Iowa" and "Calcio") and is speculated that one will have more internal storage.
There's absolutely no evidence of an actual "Pro" version. At least not in the sense that it would be based off of the Tegra X2 or have massive performance and/or memory improvements.

Re: Switch Lite | A party in your (cargo) pocket

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:24 pm
by Captain Kinopio
Do these hacker insider info types think there will be a clear date when you can buy a Switch confident you'll be getting the updated version as opposed to the 2017 model?

Re: Switch Lite | A party in your (cargo) pocket

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:36 pm
by Abacus
I still think this is a stupid idea. You can't switch between the TV and handheld?

Well, then, umm...it's not a switch. It's a PSP or some other shamboulie.

You also won't be able to play certain games. You'd imagine a handheld would be more kid friendly but...oh yes, you can't play Labo. Or the toys from Starlink. You know, the things designed for kids.

So, who is it mean for? I'm sure it'll sell fine, but I don't care about that. I just don't get the point of it.

Re: Switch Lite | A party in your (cargo) pocket

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:46 pm
by Tomous
I wouldn’t worry about Starlink, nobody bought it...

Which is a shame because I got it for like £12 from Argos the other day, and it’s pretty good.

Re: Switch Lite | A party in your (cargo) pocket

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:50 pm
by Abacus
Yeah, it is pretty good isn't it?

I've been buying the other toys cheaply from Argos too, as they're quite fun. Errr, no, I mean for the children...

Re: Switch Lite | A party in your (cargo) pocket

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:55 am
by Peter Crisp
Rax wrote:I do love when Nintendo announces new hardware and the usual suspects waddle in not understanding it and decrying it as a terrible idea. Keep up the good work folks.


I understand exactly what this is and what it does I just don't like it.
I think it will sell well to Nintendo fans and I still think it's not a very good bit of kit.

Re: Switch Lite | A party in your (cargo) pocket

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:03 am
by Frank
Peter Crisp wrote: I still think it's not a very good bit of kit.



Why, though? What were you expecting?

Re: Switch Lite | A party in your (cargo) pocket

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:12 am
by Peter Crisp
Frank wrote:
Peter Crisp wrote: I still think it's not a very good bit of kit.



Why, though? What were you expecting?


Something with actual improvements might be nice for a start.
The screen tech is ancient and would be piss easy to improve for a start. The Vita has a better screen and that's been discontinued for years and the fact that they're removing features is pretty shoddy as well.
I know this machine isn't aimed at me but if they had just put a little effort in I was going to pick up a Switch as there are games like Cities Skylines on the way that will be great to play during my lunch break but this machine is just not an improvement so I'm going to give it a pass.

This idea that any criticism of Nintendo (I bought and used 3 versions of the DS so I am a Nintendo customer) is only made by people who hate Nintendo is really rather insulting.