TCRT 10: The TCRT Strikes Back (retroactively titled TCRT10: Episode V – The TCRT Strikes Back)

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by <]:^D » Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:24 pm

that reads a little like the intro to American Psycho :lol:

tbh though youre completely right - bikes :wub:

its funny, before i did my mod1, me and the other trainee were talking about "is a 600 enough?", then we rode the test bikes out on the road and we came back and were like "yeah 600 is enough" :lol: the acceleration is insane.

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by Tomous » Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:26 pm

<]:^D wrote:that reads a little like the intro to American Psycho :lol:



I actually watched this for the first time last night. Good film, and Bale is brilliant but I'm not sure what to make of the ending. I liked the ambiguity of it but haven't settled on an interpretation yet.

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by <]:^D » Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:28 pm

such a good film; i cant remember but i think the book is more certain on the ending than the film.
i actually also think its a rare example were the film is better than the book - although not for the above reason

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by Kezzer » Mon Aug 02, 2021 3:10 pm

<]:^D wrote:that reads a little like the intro to American Psycho :lol:

tbh though youre completely right - bikes :wub:

its funny, before i did my mod1, me and the other trainee were talking about "is a 600 enough?", then we rode the test bikes out on the road and we came back and were like "yeah 600 is enough" :lol: the acceleration is insane.



:lol: You have to be a little psychotic to ride a motorbike

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by Denster » Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:34 pm

The film is not better than the book. It is a good representation of it though.

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by Rex Kramer » Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:30 pm

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Lagamorph wrote:Just the thought of getting on a motorbike has always filled me with dread :dread:


For me, riding a bike is an almost spiritual experience. It would start with opening the garage door to an aggressive looking silhouette. Flick the lights on, and you see this compact machine with all its mechanical components visible. And you know its purpose, you can see how it works. What’s more, you know that it is capable of launching from a dead standstill to 60mph in 3 seconds or less.

Then there is the pre-ride ritual; Unlock the bike and flick up the kick stand. Instantly the bikes mass leans into you, so you push it upright to find the balance point, you go too far, and the bike starts falling away from you. Panic! bring it back a little. Got it. Now you can wheel it out into the light of day, flick the kick stand back down and continue the ceremony.

* Chain tension - Check
* Main lights- Check
* Brake light - Check
* Indicators - Check
* Tire pressure Front - Check
* Tire pressure Rear - Check
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* Am I fit to ride? - Check

Okay, now its go time; Ignition. Clutch. Start. The bike jolts to life and you are hit with the sounds and the smells from the engine. You breathe it in. Then, as is customary; Helmet on, gloves on, kick stand up. Its now you and the machine. You smile.

You pull the Clutch in, flick your left foot down to find 1st gear and you feel a solid 'Thunk', slowly let the clutch out, lift your feet, you have momentum.

Then, the smile vanishes.
You forgot to close the bloody garage door.

Aside from some of the minor hassles that come with bike ownership, the real joy comes when you are actually out on the road. There is a mixture of being mesmerised by the assault on your senses, to being acutely aware of the danger you are in.

<]:^D wrote:i understand that; theres the kind of fear you enjoy, and the kind you want to avoid at all costs :dread:
funnily enough acting fills me with dread, going 100mp/h on a motor with wheels is :datass:


When you are on the road really hits you. Instantly understanding how vulnerable a road user you are, and how so many drivers are just not alert. I don't think that goes away, and to be honest that is a good thing. Keeps you grounded.

Which is needed, because as I said, riding a motorbike is enthralling. From clicking into first gear, to the constant inertia that you just don’t want to stop. And it’s all being controlled by you. From the dance your hands and feet make when changing gear, to the counter intuitive but bizarrely natural counter steer to lean the bike into a corner - everything just 'clicks' and brings you into that moment.

When you have that focus, when every part of you must work together to control the machine, it’s like awakening amidst an illusion.





<]:^D wrote:what you looking to buy?


I have a few ideas, previously I had a Street Triple 675R and loved it, would happily have the same bike again or maybe the Daytona 675R. I think a litre bike right now would be a little irresponsible :shifty:

This is a version of Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance that I might actually finish reading.

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by Rex Kramer » Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:31 pm

Denster wrote:The film is not better than the book. It is a good representation of it though.

This. The film having a female director gives it a very different slant.

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by Tomous » Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:24 pm

Rex Kramer wrote:
Denster wrote:The film is not better than the book. It is a good representation of it though.

This. The film having a female director gives it a very different slant.



What are the differences?

I'm interested in reading the book.

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by Victor Mildew » Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:25 pm

Book splits :x

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by Denster » Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:19 am

Tomous wrote:
Rex Kramer wrote:
Denster wrote:The film is not better than the book. It is a good representation of it though.

This. The film having a female director gives it a very different slant.



What are the differences?

I'm interested in reading the book.

There's no ambiguity. It's extremely graphic about the violence.

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by Skarjo » Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:41 am

The book is so cartoonishly over the top with the violence that it actually has less impact than the more grounded violence in the movie. Of course, that’s sort of the point. Same with the descriptions of food and fashion which would actually be strawberry floating awful if real. The book does a better job of showing how detached from reality he is.

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by Tomous » Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:09 am

Bale said the character's arc in the film is going from psychopath to psychotic, which the film really nails.

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by Victor Mildew » Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:14 am

Do you like Phil Collins?

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by Cuttooth » Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:20 am

I think I saw recently that Mary Harron never intended for the ending to come across as ambiguous as it does.

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by Tomous » Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:22 am

Cuttooth wrote:I think I saw recently that Mary Harron never intended for the ending to come across as ambiguous as it does.


Yes, I read this while reading up on people's interpretation of the ending.

Turner said the film wasn’t supposed to be as mysterious as some might think.

“To me and Mary, the book left it up in the air, too, what was real and what was not real. We didn’t think that everything was real because some of it is literally surreal. But we just decided, together, that we both really disliked movies where the big reveal is that it was all in someone’s head or it was all a dream,” Turner said.

“We just both find that annoying. We just said we’re going to make a really conscious effort to have it be real, and then at some point… he’s sort of perceiving things differently, but they’re really happening.”

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by Moggy » Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:24 am

Victor Mildew wrote:Book splits :x


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by Albert » Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:24 am

I always thought it was real (in the film)

The look on the letting agents face, and paint in the cupboard showed that they had cleaned up what had happened and the letting agent was suspicious of Bales charater turning up.

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by Tomous » Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:31 am

Albear wrote:
I always thought it was real (in the film)

The look on the letting agents face, and paint in the cupboard showed that they had cleaned up what had happened and the letting agent was suspicious of Bales charater turning up
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Yeah, I think everything is real up to the ATM bit and that's where he loses his grip on reality.


I agree about the letting agent scene, and I think when the lawyer said he'd met Paul Allen, it was a case of mistaken identity-something that happens throughout the film between the "Vice Presidents".

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by Cuttooth » Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:31 am

Albear wrote:
I always thought it was real (in the film)

The look on the letting agents face, and paint in the cupboard showed that they had cleaned up what had happened and the letting agent was suspicious of Bales charater turning up.

Yeah, I've always thought that everything up until the ATM scene is basically real, if an exaggerated version in Bateman's head (so he didn't really leave a bloody trail transporting a body, he didn't use a chainsaw when killing someone). It doesn't have to be an everything or nothing reveal.

The letting agent scene is great because he realises he's met his moral equal and she's probably the only person in the entire film he shows any kind of respect to.

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by Tomous » Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:38 am

Cuttooth wrote:
Albear wrote:
I always thought it was real (in the film)

The look on the letting agents face, and paint in the cupboard showed that they had cleaned up what had happened and the letting agent was suspicious of Bales charater turning up.

Yeah, I've always thought that everything up until the ATM scene is basically real, if an exaggerated version in Bateman's head (so he didn't really leave a bloody trail transporting a body, he didn't use a chainsaw when killing someone). It doesn't have to be an everything or nothing reveal.

The letting agent scene is great because he realises he's met his moral equal and she's probably the only person in the entire film he shows any kind of respect to.



Interesting point on the letting agent scene! Hadn't considered that


Such a good film.

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