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Re: TCRT 10: The TCRT Strikes Back (retroactively titled TCRT10: Episode V – The TCRT Strikes Back)

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:11 pm
by site23
OrangeRKN wrote:
site23 wrote:Latent Diffusion can also be pretty good. It has the interesting property of (almost) understanding what words appearing as text in images should look like - so prompts like "A robot holding a sign saying 'Hello'" will work (but the sign will say like HELLLO or HELOO some of the time).


I read a recent NewScientist article about how Dall-E amends prompts to counteract bias, seemingly uncovered by feeding it prompts like "A person holding a sign saying", which would then generate images of say a black person holding a sign with the word "black" written on it, suggesting the prompt was amended to "A person holding a sign saying black".


:lol: Yes. It's pretty funny that's how it was discovered.

On the subject of ethics in AI, a (comparatively) huge company like OpenAI addressing model bias through such a silly hack rather than putting the requisite research into learning how to train the models to understand its dataset in a more equitable way is a big issue I have with the company and its products. They're one of only a handful of AI groups with the resources to do it properly and they should be harangued for choosing not to IMO.

Re: TCRT 10: The TCRT Strikes Back (retroactively titled TCRT10: Episode V – The TCRT Strikes Back)

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 1:11 pm
by OrangeRKN
Yeah that was basically the conclusion of what I read. That and the lack of transparency around their approach!

It's a well intentioned hack and I appreciate it from a dev perspective, but it's a technical sticking plaster over a societal problem.

Re: TCRT 10: The TCRT Strikes Back (retroactively titled TCRT10: Episode V – The TCRT Strikes Back)

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 3:28 pm
by Moggy

twitter.com/independent/status/1556947038134214658



I see The Independent are having a completely normal day.

Re: TCRT 10: The TCRT Strikes Back (retroactively titled TCRT10: Episode V – The TCRT Strikes Back)

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 3:33 pm
by Preezy
I wonder how much it would strawberry float up the ecosystem to just suddenly introduce a massive herbivore? Seems like a silly idea.

Re: TCRT 10: The TCRT Strikes Back (retroactively titled TCRT10: Episode V – The TCRT Strikes Back)

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 3:41 pm
by Moggy
Preezy wrote:I wonder how much it would strawberry float up the ecosystem to just suddenly introduce a massive herbivore? Seems like a silly idea.


Yes, but just imagine what you'd get at the drive-thru

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Re: TCRT 10: The TCRT Strikes Back (retroactively titled TCRT10: Episode V – The TCRT Strikes Back)

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 3:51 pm
by Jenuall
OpenAI is obviously not perfect and there's clearly issues with how they operate, but at the end of the day when it can auto generate you content as good as this, I'm not complaining!

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I've quite enjoyed feeding things inputs into the Playground feature and seeing how it attempts to auto-complete them

Re: TCRT 10: The TCRT Strikes Back (retroactively titled TCRT10: Episode V – The TCRT Strikes Back)

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 3:59 pm
by Tomous
Preezy wrote:I wonder how much it would strawberry float up the ecosystem to just suddenly introduce a massive herbivore? Seems like a silly idea.



I can't imagine they'd be allowed to reintroduce them to the wild. They'd be for zoos if they ever managed it.

Re: TCRT 10: The TCRT Strikes Back (retroactively titled TCRT10: Episode V – The TCRT Strikes Back)

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 4:03 pm
by Preezy
Tomous wrote:
Preezy wrote:I wonder how much it would strawberry float up the ecosystem to just suddenly introduce a massive herbivore? Seems like a silly idea.



I can't imagine they'd be allowed to reintroduce them to the wild. They'd be for zoos if they ever managed it.

Best cancel my hunting trip then :(

Re: TCRT 10: The TCRT Strikes Back (retroactively titled TCRT10: Episode V – The TCRT Strikes Back)

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 4:04 pm
by Cuttooth
Tomous wrote:
Preezy wrote:I wonder how much it would strawberry float up the ecosystem to just suddenly introduce a massive herbivore? Seems like a silly idea.



I can't imagine they'd be allowed to reintroduce them to the wild. They'd be for zoos if they ever managed it.

Hmm, I can't see them just opening a zoo full of extinct animals. Not without a small team of experts having reviewed it first at least!

Re: TCRT 10: The TCRT Strikes Back (retroactively titled TCRT10: Episode V – The TCRT Strikes Back)

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 4:07 pm
by Hexx
And each subsequent zoo will be less and less interesting.

Re: TCRT 10: The TCRT Strikes Back (retroactively titled TCRT10: Episode V – The TCRT Strikes Back)

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 4:33 pm
by OrangeRKN
Preezy wrote:I wonder how much it would strawberry float up the ecosystem to just suddenly introduce a massive herbivore? Seems like a silly idea.


It's impossible to actually bring back woolly mammoths - there was a recent study of another extinct animal (the Christmas Island rat) that concluded we cannot 100% reconstruct the genome of an extinct species.

What Colossal are really trying to create is an arctic-adapted gene edited elephant with many of the traits of a woolly mammoth, which is really the goal - to reintroduce functionally equivalent species into ecological niches.

I'm not convinced how relevant a mammoth-like animal would be in our warming world but there we go. It does make sense for other species that we have driven to extinction but played an important ecological role - it's not about strawberry floating up the ecosystem but de-fucking it.

Re: TCRT 10: The TCRT Strikes Back (retroactively titled TCRT10: Episode V – The TCRT Strikes Back)

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 4:41 pm
by sawyerpip
Tomous wrote:
Preezy wrote:I wonder how much it would strawberry float up the ecosystem to just suddenly introduce a massive herbivore? Seems like a silly idea.



I can't imagine they'd be allowed to reintroduce them to the wild. They'd be for zoos if they ever managed it.


I think the intention of recreating a woolly mammoth-like species is actually to reintroduce it to Siberia with the intention of restoring the ecosystem. I'm sure that's what I've read previosuly about this project anyway.

Re: TCRT 10: The TCRT Strikes Back (retroactively titled TCRT10: Episode V – The TCRT Strikes Back)

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:36 am
by Skarjo
In an interminably boring return to work INSET day over Zoom and we've just been given this set of 'unprofessional behaviours' and asked how we'd deal with them.

"Two teachers are talking about a student in the corridor.​

One mentions that she wishes student X would stay home the next day.​

She says that the student is extremely disruptive and class ​behaviour is much better without him."


Do not care. Student is probably a dick.

You notice an angry staff member screaming at a student in her class.​

The student is crying.


Do not care. Student is probably a dick.


On an adventure trip it is reported to you by a student, that another student was crying ​and the teacher allowed her to get in bed with her in order to comfort her.


:shock:

Well that strawberry floating escalated.

Re: TCRT 10: The TCRT Strikes Back (retroactively titled TCRT10: Episode V – The TCRT Strikes Back)

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:13 am
by Stugene
Skarjo wrote:
On an adventure trip it is reported to you by a student, that another student was crying ​and the teacher allowed her to get in bed with her in order to comfort her.


:shock:

Well that strawberry floating escalated.


Depending on the gender of the teacher and pupil, the Sun will say "Phwor!" or "GUNGE THIS SICK PEDO SIR"

Re: TCRT 10: The TCRT Strikes Back (retroactively titled TCRT10: Episode V – The TCRT Strikes Back)

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:38 pm
by Cuttooth

twitter.com/mralistairgreen/status/1557290736097296384



Alright who's the semi-famous Twitter comedian Alistair Green on here?

Re: TCRT 10: The TCRT Strikes Back (retroactively titled TCRT10: Episode V – The TCRT Strikes Back)

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:43 pm
by Moggy
Cuttooth wrote:

twitter.com/mralistairgreen/status/1557290736097296384



Alright who's the semi-famous Twitter comedian Alistair Green on here?


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Re: TCRT 10: The TCRT Strikes Back (retroactively titled TCRT10: Episode V – The TCRT Strikes Back)

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:44 pm
by Stugene
Cuttooth wrote:

twitter.com/mralistairgreen/status/1557290736097296384



Alright who's the semi-famous Twitter comedian Alistair Green on here?

You mean Alistair "Stugene" Green 8-) ?

Re: TCRT 10: The TCRT Strikes Back (retroactively titled TCRT10: Episode V – The TCRT Strikes Back)

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:45 pm
by Stugene
Moggy wrote:
Cuttooth wrote:

twitter.com/mralistairgreen/status/1557290736097296384



Alright who's the semi-famous Twitter comedian Alistair Green on here?


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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: TCRT 10: The TCRT Strikes Back (retroactively titled TCRT10: Episode V – The TCRT Strikes Back)

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:27 pm
by Knoyleo
Cuttooth wrote:

twitter.com/mralistairgreen/status/1557290736097296384



Alright who's the semi-famous Twitter comedian Alistair Green on here?

Literally just came in here to post the same thing. Uncanny. :lol:

Re: TCRT 10: The TCRT Strikes Back (retroactively titled TCRT10: Episode V – The TCRT Strikes Back)

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 1:56 pm
by Jenuall
I find that guy unbearably cringe, he's like human froyo :dread: