TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Hexx » Fri May 10, 2019 1:12 pm

Tafdolphin wrote:Re: discussion on last page:

twitter.com/bobbyllew/status/1126766496674304006



twitter.com/RobBurl/status/1126759789390786560



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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Tafdolphin » Fri May 10, 2019 1:15 pm

Got me on ignore again? :(

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by That » Fri May 10, 2019 1:34 pm

Isabel Oakeshott isn't much different to Ben Shapiro. Same routine all these alt-right commentators have of pushing a far-right agenda then pretending to be confused when called a fascist.

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Hexx » Fri May 10, 2019 1:38 pm

Karl_ wrote:Isabel Oakeshott isn't much different to Ben Shapiro. Same routine all these alt-right commentators have of pushing a far-right agenda then pretending to be confused when called a fascist.


Oakeshott is the one that lied on the show she's being reinvited on about having evidence of the Brexit Fraud isn't she?

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Tafdolphin » Fri May 10, 2019 1:48 pm

Thread:

twitter.com/prodnose/status/1126782940590088192



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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Hexx » Fri May 10, 2019 1:55 pm

Tafdolphin wrote:Thread:

twitter.com/prodnose/status/1126782940590088192



Thoughts?


It’s rank of insincerity and dishonesty makes me dislike him even more.

It reads like a man who’s decided to get his revised story straight and had time to make sure it paints himself in the best possible light.

It makes no real reference or apology to his insulting and crass original attempts to "apologise" (which can't be hand waved "I didn't know connotations...I mean context!" away)

e.g.

twitter.com/prodnose/status/1126782943815446528



 Doesn’t tally at all with his initial reaction at all.

“Sorry my gag pic of the little fella in the posh outfit has whipped some up. Never occurred to me because, well, mind not diseased Soon as those good enough to point out it’s possible connotations got in touch, down it came. And that’s it.”


It isn’t even internally consistent in its narrative. I mean revulsion and panic over him...but he decided to make light of it right away? That doesn’t jell.

He choose to put his newly choreographed version of events out there to make sure people understand the best version of him as the last word. It's an "I'm really really really sorry for that horrible thing I did. but what I did wasn't that bad in reality because...". Also while ignoring large elements of what he did.

Its a nice story. But that’s all. You saw the real him, and what he thought of critics, on the unfiltered immediate fallout. That should be the takeaway.

It's a well written story, and if it was the first thing he said it would be plausible and capped events off - but to believe it covers off events now a person would have to ignore incredibly large elements of what actually happened.

He’d have been better to let it lie and move on. Both now, and immediately after. If he had just made the really bad mistake, simply apologised, took his criticism in good graces" - he'd probably be fine (and maybe still employed).

He might have genuinely made a blunder with the pic (and he probably did) - but his immediate reaction afterwards, and repeated lies and dishonesty do not paint a positive picture of the guy and massively compounded that mistake, taking on entire life of their own . And some point he should just stop digging. (

Was anyone even wanting or asking for another apology? I don't get what triggered this other than him trying to set the narrative "straight" to his current version of events. This isn't designed to say sorry, it's design to deflect from criticism. He could have just moved on lesson learned, but he has to try to shut that criticism down...I wish it had just gone away with him having his say and being fired :D

But even given all of that. It's still amazing the BBC decide to have a "zero" (no near zero) tolerance approach to that kind of blunder, and the same day that had chuffin' Farage on QT for the 86,457th time.

Edit - I have no idea why I have so many thoughts on this issue - sorry that rambled out of control!

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Moggy » Fri May 10, 2019 1:55 pm

Tafdolphin wrote:Thread:

twitter.com/prodnose/status/1126782940590088192



Thoughts?


It’s a much better explanation and apology than yesterday’s effort. It would have been better without the little moan about Twitter/media intractability though.

He strawberry floated up, he’s been punished and he accepts what happened. Time to move on I think.

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Hexx » Fri May 10, 2019 2:04 pm

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Karl_ wrote:Aye, and I can get Five Guys and Burger King on Deliveroo, not sure if that's everywhere though?


I live too far in the suburbs for that :(
But not too far we don't regularly get flyers "Order Burger King now!"

It's a hard life :(


Burger King is now on Deliveroo (along with loads of chain restaurant type places. Coal, Cote etc)

This is bad news for my wallet.

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by That » Fri May 10, 2019 2:08 pm

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Karl_ wrote:Aye, and I can get Five Guys and Burger King on Deliveroo, not sure if that's everywhere though?


I live too far in the suburbs for that :(
But not too far we don't regularly get flyers "Order Burger King now!"

It's a hard life :(


Burger King is now on Deliveroo (along with loads of chain restaurant type places. Coal, Cote etc)

This is bad news for my wallet.


I had a huge Burger King delivered the other day, got a Bacon King meal with some extras, so full up I felt a bit sick after but it was worth it. :wub:

Saw we can get Nando's delivered now too, so that's pretty exciting.

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Moggy » Fri May 10, 2019 2:12 pm

I was hungover on Monday and had a real craving for fish and chips. Nowhere near me was open (Bank Holiday :x ) and I was in no fit state to drive so I looked on the delivery apps.

The only one I could find was have cost £12.70 after all the delivery fees. :lol: I ended up getting a frozen pizza from the local shop. :lol:

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Denster » Fri May 10, 2019 2:15 pm

You cheap bitch.

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Tafdolphin » Fri May 10, 2019 2:23 pm

I can't actually bring myself to use deliveroo anymore. It's in the same category as Uber for me.

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Twitter coming at me with all the comebacks for this thread:

twitter.com/TechnicallyRon/status/1126840700392308736


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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Moggy » Fri May 10, 2019 2:27 pm

Denster wrote:You cheap bitch.


You're damn right. :capnscotty:

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Preezy » Fri May 10, 2019 2:29 pm

Can we please erase "hot take" from the English lexicon? Yikes.

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Moggy » Fri May 10, 2019 2:32 pm

twitter.com/jimmfelton/status/1126825665213476866



:lol:

Although Andrew Neil should strawberry float off as well.

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Tafdolphin » Fri May 10, 2019 2:36 pm

Neil's a twat and his continued employment in his role never ceases to amaze, but it might all have been worth it for that.

Dear me.

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by That » Fri May 10, 2019 2:40 pm

Preezy wrote:Can we please erase "hot take" from the English lexicon? Yikes.

I can see why "hot take" is annoying, but you can prise my "yikes" from my cold dead hands. There are no low-effort, one-word responses to someone being a tit that make me laugh harder than "yikes". (Apart from maybe just "uh", but that's situational, y'know?)

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Tafdolphin » Fri May 10, 2019 2:42 pm

I got called out by Ad for 'yikes' the other day. Genuinely had no idea it was contentious.

Hot take and hot mess aren't leaving my vocabulary any time soon either.

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Moggy » Fri May 10, 2019 2:44 pm

Tafdolphin wrote:I got called out by Ad for 'yikes' the other day. Genuinely had no idea it was contentious.

Hot take and hot mess aren't leaving my vocabulary any time soon either.


Wow, just wow.

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PostRe: TCRT 7: Episode 2 - Attack of The Chat
by Tafdolphin » Fri May 10, 2019 2:51 pm

Bunch o' prescriptivists all up in here eh?

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