The all new No Context thread.

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PostRe: The all new No Context thread.
by kazanova_Frankenstein » Thu Jul 28, 2022 3:49 pm

rinks wrote:Right, if we're making sweeping changes to accommodate everybody's sensitivities, I'd like to request a check-box to make my posts visible only to those who have opted in, and I get to veto the list so I can exclude those who don't meet my criteria.


Personalised echo chamber :datass:

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PostRe: The all new No Context thread.
by Moggy » Thu Jul 28, 2022 3:50 pm

Oblomov Boblomov wrote:
Did the boffins figure out a way to keep pages in threads over on this here Disco software?


Nah, I think we were just told that we were silly for wanting to keep pages.

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PostRe: The all new No Context thread.
by Imrahil » Thu Jul 28, 2022 3:56 pm

Phpbb is still popular for a reason. It really succeeds in making the userbase feel they a part of something permanent and isn't overly complicated - so browsing is very quick and responsive.

If the forum is still generally functioning well day-to-day - which it seems to be - there's an argument to just stick with it indefinitely. Probably the best shot at keeping enough forum members and keeping it as busy as possible for as long as possible.

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PostRe: The all new No Context thread.
by OrangeRKN » Thu Jul 28, 2022 3:58 pm

Moggy wrote:When we moved from Gamesradar, we lost lots of members. I assume not all of the SOMN regulars migrated here either?


Yes you're right. There is some difference in the situation as those were communities moving from one place to another, which is more than changing forum software, but yes there will still be an amount of change.

As a counterpoint though when SONM launched it was actually more active than ONM, so change can reinvigorate a community and even pull in lapsed members. And while our priority should always be in satisfying our current members (no context bait lol) having a more modern forum would make us more appealing to new members!

Moggy wrote:Starting again from scratch will result in a loss of members as there will be some that decide it's time to move on/can't be arsed registering again. Some will leave as they'll hate the new forum software and/or the look of it. If the new forum has no history on it, some will feel it's just not the same and will wander away. And we don't have many members.

If we move to new board software then we have to make any transition as seamless as possible. But I still think we'll lose a lot of people.


I 100% agree on making the transition as seamless as possible, to mitigate against all of those points you make. Importing users would mean people don't have to re-register. Part of the reason for trialing discourse was to identify what people didn't like so we could modify it for an easier transition and make it more familiar, it's something we could do again before migrating. With history it's unfortunately the point we are at where we can't migrate it over, our database is simply now too broken. If we had a team of paid engineers I'm sure it would be possible but we don't and we won't.

The alternative of staying on phpbb is increasing db issues, continuing risk of downtime because of our current server hosts, and at some point it'll just break or become open to some security vulnerability which will force our hand and lead to a much messier and harsher transition.

So yes I hear all your points and think they are all valid, but I think a migration is unavoidable so the best we can do is plan it on our own terms to minimise the impact as much as possible. We've just been putting it off (partly because it is difficult to organise) and then things like the downtime come along and remind us there is a cost to putting it off and maintaining the status quo isn't viable long term. We could have actually migrated the history back when we first trialed Discourse and we didn't, so there is a measurable cost to putting it off.

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PostRe: The all new No Context thread.
by RetroCora » Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:02 pm

Moggy wrote:
RetroCora wrote:
Qikz wrote:There's a lot of history in the archive which would be a huge shame to lose if it was gone - same problem I had with gamesradar. There's so many good things that were posted back then that losing it would suck.

Requiring a login though is a great idea. Might drive more people to sign up too.


There are also a lot of wildly inappropriate things posted by people too young to realise any different(I’m very guilty of this). It’s a hard balance to strike between keeping the good content and getting rid of some of the nasty stuff.


First the no context thread and now a vast amount of GR history? All over some paranoia that somehow in the future somebody will be linked to their username here and their posts from 2008 might be discovered?

We might as well just close the forum.


I’m not suggesting we remove it, just making the point that there’s a whole lot of nasty stuff back there. I had my posts deleted, it is down to the individual what they want done with their post history.

I’d also point out that this has actually affected me directly - someone linked in my stream to a thread in which some unacceptable stuff was posted(by me!), which I had to explain to a few people who are unaffiliated with this place, so I think I’m entitled to my caution and I don’t really appreciate the hyperbole. I think I’ve been perfectly reasonable in my posts on this matter, and haven’t called for locks/removal of posts at any point.

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PostRe: The all new No Context thread.
by Moggy » Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:08 pm

RetroCora wrote:
Moggy wrote:
RetroCora wrote:
Qikz wrote:There's a lot of history in the archive which would be a huge shame to lose if it was gone - same problem I had with gamesradar. There's so many good things that were posted back then that losing it would suck.

Requiring a login though is a great idea. Might drive more people to sign up too.


There are also a lot of wildly inappropriate things posted by people too young to realise any different(I’m very guilty of this). It’s a hard balance to strike between keeping the good content and getting rid of some of the nasty stuff.


First the no context thread and now a vast amount of GR history? All over some paranoia that somehow in the future somebody will be linked to their username here and their posts from 2008 might be discovered?

We might as well just close the forum.


I’m not suggesting we remove it, just making the point that there’s a whole lot of nasty stuff back there. I had my posts deleted, it is down to the individual what they want done with their post history.

I’d also point out that this has actually affected me directly - someone linked in my stream to a thread in which some unacceptable stuff was posted(by me!), which I had to explain to a few people who are unaffiliated with this place, so I think I’m entitled to my caution and I don’t really appreciate the hyperbole. I think I’ve been perfectly reasonable in my posts on this matter, and haven’t called for locks/removal of posts at any point.


Your post said "It’s a hard balance to strike between keeping the good content and getting rid of some of the nasty stuff". So you did call for the removal of posts.

I find it sad that we are even discussing deleting the history of this place. Even if it is just individuals doing it. People have the right to do it of course, but the rest of us are also entitled to be sad at the idea of GR history vanishing.

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PostRe: The all new No Context thread.
by rinks » Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:12 pm

kazanova_Frankenstein wrote:
rinks wrote:Right, if we're making sweeping changes to accommodate everybody's sensitivities, I'd like to request a check-box to make my posts visible only to those who have opted in, and I get to veto the list so I can exclude those who don't meet my criteria.


Personalised echo chamber :datass:

Damn right.

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PostRe: The all new No Context thread.
by RetroCora » Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:16 pm

Moggy wrote:
RetroCora wrote:
Moggy wrote:
RetroCora wrote:
Qikz wrote:There's a lot of history in the archive which would be a huge shame to lose if it was gone - same problem I had with gamesradar. There's so many good things that were posted back then that losing it would suck.

Requiring a login though is a great idea. Might drive more people to sign up too.


There are also a lot of wildly inappropriate things posted by people too young to realise any different(I’m very guilty of this). It’s a hard balance to strike between keeping the good content and getting rid of some of the nasty stuff.


First the no context thread and now a vast amount of GR history? All over some paranoia that somehow in the future somebody will be linked to their username here and their posts from 2008 might be discovered?

We might as well just close the forum.


I’m not suggesting we remove it, just making the point that there’s a whole lot of nasty stuff back there. I had my posts deleted, it is down to the individual what they want done with their post history.

I’d also point out that this has actually affected me directly - someone linked in my stream to a thread in which some unacceptable stuff was posted(by me!), which I had to explain to a few people who are unaffiliated with this place, so I think I’m entitled to my caution and I don’t really appreciate the hyperbole. I think I’ve been perfectly reasonable in my posts on this matter, and haven’t called for locks/removal of posts at any point.


Your post said "It’s a hard balance to strike between keeping the good content and getting rid of some of the nasty stuff". So you did call for the removal of posts.

I find it sad that we are even discussing deleting the history of this place. Even if it is just individuals doing it. People have the right to do it of course, but the rest of us are also entitled to be sad at the idea of GR history vanishing.


It’s a hard personal balance to strike between keeping good content and getting rid of nasty stuff. You’ve read something into that post that simply isn’t there. I am sorry if it wasn’t clear enough, but if you take it in context with all of the previous posts I’ve made about personal choice and keeping the no context thread going, I’d hope it’s fairly clear that I’m against mandatory censorship of anyone’s post history and feel that it should be a personal choice for each of us to make.

I personally don’t want future employers, or friends I haven’t met yet, reading some of the things I said when I was eighteen, because the posts simply aren’t representative of the person I am fifteen years later.

Given that my previous account had over 50,000 posts it was much easier to have the account taken down than it was to go and individually edit posts. You might be OK with everything you’ve said, and that’s also completely fine - each to their own.

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PostRe: The all new No Context thread.
by Moggy » Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:21 pm

RetroCora wrote:
Moggy wrote:
RetroCora wrote:
Moggy wrote:
RetroCora wrote:
Qikz wrote:There's a lot of history in the archive which would be a huge shame to lose if it was gone - same problem I had with gamesradar. There's so many good things that were posted back then that losing it would suck.

Requiring a login though is a great idea. Might drive more people to sign up too.


There are also a lot of wildly inappropriate things posted by people too young to realise any different(I’m very guilty of this). It’s a hard balance to strike between keeping the good content and getting rid of some of the nasty stuff.


First the no context thread and now a vast amount of GR history? All over some paranoia that somehow in the future somebody will be linked to their username here and their posts from 2008 might be discovered?

We might as well just close the forum.


I’m not suggesting we remove it, just making the point that there’s a whole lot of nasty stuff back there. I had my posts deleted, it is down to the individual what they want done with their post history.

I’d also point out that this has actually affected me directly - someone linked in my stream to a thread in which some unacceptable stuff was posted(by me!), which I had to explain to a few people who are unaffiliated with this place, so I think I’m entitled to my caution and I don’t really appreciate the hyperbole. I think I’ve been perfectly reasonable in my posts on this matter, and haven’t called for locks/removal of posts at any point.


Your post said "It’s a hard balance to strike between keeping the good content and getting rid of some of the nasty stuff". So you did call for the removal of posts.

I find it sad that we are even discussing deleting the history of this place. Even if it is just individuals doing it. People have the right to do it of course, but the rest of us are also entitled to be sad at the idea of GR history vanishing.


It’s a hard personal balance to strike between keeping good content and getting rid of nasty stuff. You’ve read something into that post that simply isn’t there. I am sorry if it wasn’t clear enough, but if you take it in context with all of the previous posts I’ve made about personal choice and keeping the no context thread going, I’d hope it’s fairly clear that I’m against mandatory censorship of anyone’s post history and feel that it should be a personal choice for each of us to make.

I personally don’t want future employers, or friends I haven’t met yet, reading some of the things I said when I was eighteen, because the posts simply aren’t representative of the person I am fifteen years later.

Given that my previous account had over 50,000 posts it was much easier to have the account taken down than it was to go and individually edit posts. You might be OK with everything you’ve said, and that’s also completely fine - each to their own.


In the context of Staydead's post and your own words, it is unsurprising that I read it as a call for mass deletion of old posts.

I don't think I've said people shouldn't be able to delete their old posts? All I said was I find it sad to lose any of the history of this place. Each to their own.

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PostRe: The all new No Context thread.
by RetroCora » Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:28 pm

Moggy wrote:
RetroCora wrote:
Moggy wrote:
RetroCora wrote:
Moggy wrote:
RetroCora wrote:
Qikz wrote:There's a lot of history in the archive which would be a huge shame to lose if it was gone - same problem I had with gamesradar. There's so many good things that were posted back then that losing it would suck.

Requiring a login though is a great idea. Might drive more people to sign up too.


There are also a lot of wildly inappropriate things posted by people too young to realise any different(I’m very guilty of this). It’s a hard balance to strike between keeping the good content and getting rid of some of the nasty stuff.


First the no context thread and now a vast amount of GR history? All over some paranoia that somehow in the future somebody will be linked to their username here and their posts from 2008 might be discovered?

We might as well just close the forum.


I’m not suggesting we remove it, just making the point that there’s a whole lot of nasty stuff back there. I had my posts deleted, it is down to the individual what they want done with their post history.

I’d also point out that this has actually affected me directly - someone linked in my stream to a thread in which some unacceptable stuff was posted(by me!), which I had to explain to a few people who are unaffiliated with this place, so I think I’m entitled to my caution and I don’t really appreciate the hyperbole. I think I’ve been perfectly reasonable in my posts on this matter, and haven’t called for locks/removal of posts at any point.


Your post said "It’s a hard balance to strike between keeping the good content and getting rid of some of the nasty stuff". So you did call for the removal of posts.

I find it sad that we are even discussing deleting the history of this place. Even if it is just individuals doing it. People have the right to do it of course, but the rest of us are also entitled to be sad at the idea of GR history vanishing.


It’s a hard personal balance to strike between keeping good content and getting rid of nasty stuff. You’ve read something into that post that simply isn’t there. I am sorry if it wasn’t clear enough, but if you take it in context with all of the previous posts I’ve made about personal choice and keeping the no context thread going, I’d hope it’s fairly clear that I’m against mandatory censorship of anyone’s post history and feel that it should be a personal choice for each of us to make.

I personally don’t want future employers, or friends I haven’t met yet, reading some of the things I said when I was eighteen, because the posts simply aren’t representative of the person I am fifteen years later.

Given that my previous account had over 50,000 posts it was much easier to have the account taken down than it was to go and individually edit posts. You might be OK with everything you’ve said, and that’s also completely fine - each to their own.


In the context of Staydead's post and your own words, it is unsurprising that I read it as a call for mass deletion of old posts.

I don't think I've said people shouldn't be able to delete their old posts? All I said was I find it sad to lose any of the history of this place. Each to their own.


I never said that you did, I’m clarifying my stance. And as I said, I’m sorry if it wasn’t clear what I meant in that single post, but again I’d hope that my previous posts on the matter make it clear where I stand. And if anything, it shows that the wider context of posts matters! :lol:

And you did say that, but you also called me paranoid, which if I’m honest I thought was a bit OTT - I’m not being paranoid, this has actually affected me off the forum and I’m keen to avoid it happening again! I’m also fully aware that my thoughts on the matter are a) based on my experience, and b) not shared by everyone, so I’m at great pains to make the point that I’m not asking for any action, just offering my tuppence on the matter.

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PostRe: The all new No Context thread.
by rinks » Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:34 pm

RetroCora wrote:just offering my tuppence

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PostRe: The all new No Context thread.
by Moggy » Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:39 pm

RetroCora wrote:
Moggy wrote:
RetroCora wrote:
Moggy wrote:
RetroCora wrote:
Moggy wrote:
RetroCora wrote:
Qikz wrote:There's a lot of history in the archive which would be a huge shame to lose if it was gone - same problem I had with gamesradar. There's so many good things that were posted back then that losing it would suck.

Requiring a login though is a great idea. Might drive more people to sign up too.


There are also a lot of wildly inappropriate things posted by people too young to realise any different(I’m very guilty of this). It’s a hard balance to strike between keeping the good content and getting rid of some of the nasty stuff.


First the no context thread and now a vast amount of GR history? All over some paranoia that somehow in the future somebody will be linked to their username here and their posts from 2008 might be discovered?

We might as well just close the forum.


I’m not suggesting we remove it, just making the point that there’s a whole lot of nasty stuff back there. I had my posts deleted, it is down to the individual what they want done with their post history.

I’d also point out that this has actually affected me directly - someone linked in my stream to a thread in which some unacceptable stuff was posted(by me!), which I had to explain to a few people who are unaffiliated with this place, so I think I’m entitled to my caution and I don’t really appreciate the hyperbole. I think I’ve been perfectly reasonable in my posts on this matter, and haven’t called for locks/removal of posts at any point.


Your post said "It’s a hard balance to strike between keeping the good content and getting rid of some of the nasty stuff". So you did call for the removal of posts.

I find it sad that we are even discussing deleting the history of this place. Even if it is just individuals doing it. People have the right to do it of course, but the rest of us are also entitled to be sad at the idea of GR history vanishing.


It’s a hard personal balance to strike between keeping good content and getting rid of nasty stuff. You’ve read something into that post that simply isn’t there. I am sorry if it wasn’t clear enough, but if you take it in context with all of the previous posts I’ve made about personal choice and keeping the no context thread going, I’d hope it’s fairly clear that I’m against mandatory censorship of anyone’s post history and feel that it should be a personal choice for each of us to make.

I personally don’t want future employers, or friends I haven’t met yet, reading some of the things I said when I was eighteen, because the posts simply aren’t representative of the person I am fifteen years later.

Given that my previous account had over 50,000 posts it was much easier to have the account taken down than it was to go and individually edit posts. You might be OK with everything you’ve said, and that’s also completely fine - each to their own.


In the context of Staydead's post and your own words, it is unsurprising that I read it as a call for mass deletion of old posts.

I don't think I've said people shouldn't be able to delete their old posts? All I said was I find it sad to lose any of the history of this place. Each to their own.


I never said that you did, I’m clarifying my stance. And as I said, I’m sorry if it wasn’t clear what I meant in that single post, but again I’d hope that my previous posts on the matter make it clear where I stand. And if anything, it shows that the wider context of posts matters! :lol:

And you did say that, but you also called me paranoid, which if I’m honest I thought was a bit OTT - I’m not being paranoid, this has actually affected me off the forum and I’m keen to avoid it happening again! I’m also fully aware that my thoughts on the matter are a) based on my experience, and b) not shared by everyone, so I’m at great pains to make the point that I’m not asking for any action, just offering my tuppence on the matter.


I didn't call you paranoid, my post about paranoia was a general comment, not aimed at you.

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PostRe: The all new No Context thread.
by jawa_ » Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:42 pm

If my interpretation of things is correct, I think we're in a position where:

> Some folk don't want to be quoted in the No Context thread. Fair enough, perhaps the OP could have a list of users who don't want to be quoted and, if a mistake occurs, that No Context post should then be edited/deleted.

> Some folk are worried about things that they've posted and they want to be able to delete their post history. This is technically problematic with the current system and so the suggestion is to either archive the current history (having access gained via a password) and move to a new system; and/or ask folk to consider what they're posting and decide whether it's appropriate before they do so; and/or ask folk to consider editing their older posts if they don't like what they posted.

From a personal viewpoint I think I've seen plenty of posts that could be considered way more controversial in other Stuff posts than I've seen in the No Context thread (where interpretation is often down to whether you view it with a filthy mind or not; and I say this without any judgement as I do!). I also feel - again, just my personal view and with no ill will intended - that folk need to take personal responsibility for what they post and whether they should or not. I do appreciate, though, that a young age and heat of the moment stuff can be factors although this could be where editing is useful. If one felt that a large number of their posts where inappropriate or embarrassing, perhaps we need to help more by taking a stronger advisory line when such posts are originally made to help reduce the need for a full deletion in the future.

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PostRe: The all new No Context thread.
by RetroCora » Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:53 pm

Moggy wrote:
RetroCora wrote:
Moggy wrote:
RetroCora wrote:
Moggy wrote:
RetroCora wrote:
Moggy wrote:
RetroCora wrote:
Qikz wrote:There's a lot of history in the archive which would be a huge shame to lose if it was gone - same problem I had with gamesradar. There's so many good things that were posted back then that losing it would suck.

Requiring a login though is a great idea. Might drive more people to sign up too.


There are also a lot of wildly inappropriate things posted by people too young to realise any different(I’m very guilty of this). It’s a hard balance to strike between keeping the good content and getting rid of some of the nasty stuff.


First the no context thread and now a vast amount of GR history? All over some paranoia that somehow in the future somebody will be linked to their username here and their posts from 2008 might be discovered?

We might as well just close the forum.


I’m not suggesting we remove it, just making the point that there’s a whole lot of nasty stuff back there. I had my posts deleted, it is down to the individual what they want done with their post history.

I’d also point out that this has actually affected me directly - someone linked in my stream to a thread in which some unacceptable stuff was posted(by me!), which I had to explain to a few people who are unaffiliated with this place, so I think I’m entitled to my caution and I don’t really appreciate the hyperbole. I think I’ve been perfectly reasonable in my posts on this matter, and haven’t called for locks/removal of posts at any point.


Your post said "It’s a hard balance to strike between keeping the good content and getting rid of some of the nasty stuff". So you did call for the removal of posts.

I find it sad that we are even discussing deleting the history of this place. Even if it is just individuals doing it. People have the right to do it of course, but the rest of us are also entitled to be sad at the idea of GR history vanishing.


It’s a hard personal balance to strike between keeping good content and getting rid of nasty stuff. You’ve read something into that post that simply isn’t there. I am sorry if it wasn’t clear enough, but if you take it in context with all of the previous posts I’ve made about personal choice and keeping the no context thread going, I’d hope it’s fairly clear that I’m against mandatory censorship of anyone’s post history and feel that it should be a personal choice for each of us to make.

I personally don’t want future employers, or friends I haven’t met yet, reading some of the things I said when I was eighteen, because the posts simply aren’t representative of the person I am fifteen years later.

Given that my previous account had over 50,000 posts it was much easier to have the account taken down than it was to go and individually edit posts. You might be OK with everything you’ve said, and that’s also completely fine - each to their own.


In the context of Staydead's post and your own words, it is unsurprising that I read it as a call for mass deletion of old posts.

I don't think I've said people shouldn't be able to delete their old posts? All I said was I find it sad to lose any of the history of this place. Each to their own.


I never said that you did, I’m clarifying my stance. And as I said, I’m sorry if it wasn’t clear what I meant in that single post, but again I’d hope that my previous posts on the matter make it clear where I stand. And if anything, it shows that the wider context of posts matters! :lol:

And you did say that, but you also called me paranoid, which if I’m honest I thought was a bit OTT - I’m not being paranoid, this has actually affected me off the forum and I’m keen to avoid it happening again! I’m also fully aware that my thoughts on the matter are a) based on my experience, and b) not shared by everyone, so I’m at great pains to make the point that I’m not asking for any action, just offering my tuppence on the matter.


I didn't call you paranoid, my post about paranoia was a general comment, not aimed at you.


Then perhaps I am paranoid :slol:

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PostRe: The all new No Context thread.
by Vermilion » Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:35 pm

If GRcade goes to discord, i will likely bow out, i hated the discord when I tried it and see no appeal of going there indefinitely.

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PostRe: The all new No Context thread.
by <]:^D » Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:40 pm

Preezy wrote:Can confirm.

another positive to the Discourse move!

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PostRe: The all new No Context thread.
by Balladeer » Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:46 pm

Discourse's biggest failing is that people get it mixed up with Discord. :slol:

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PostRe: The all new No Context thread.
by Hexx » Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:58 pm

RetroCora wrote:
Moggy wrote:
RetroCora wrote:
Moggy wrote:
RetroCora wrote:
Moggy wrote:
RetroCora wrote:
Moggy wrote:
RetroCora wrote:
Qikz wrote:There's a lot of history in the archive which would be a huge shame to lose if it was gone - same problem I had with gamesradar. There's so many good things that were posted back then that losing it would suck.

Requiring a login though is a great idea. Might drive more people to sign up too.


There are also a lot of wildly inappropriate things posted by people too young to realise any different(I’m very guilty of this). It’s a hard balance to strike between keeping the good content and getting rid of some of the nasty stuff.


First the no context thread and now a vast amount of GR history? All over some paranoia that somehow in the future somebody will be linked to their username here and their posts from 2008 might be discovered?

We might as well just close the forum.


I’m not suggesting we remove it, just making the point that there’s a whole lot of nasty stuff back there. I had my posts deleted, it is down to the individual what they want done with their post history.

I’d also point out that this has actually affected me directly - someone linked in my stream to a thread in which some unacceptable stuff was posted(by me!), which I had to explain to a few people who are unaffiliated with this place, so I think I’m entitled to my caution and I don’t really appreciate the hyperbole. I think I’ve been perfectly reasonable in my posts on this matter, and haven’t called for locks/removal of posts at any point.


Your post said "It’s a hard balance to strike between keeping the good content and getting rid of some of the nasty stuff". So you did call for the removal of posts.

I find it sad that we are even discussing deleting the history of this place. Even if it is just individuals doing it. People have the right to do it of course, but the rest of us are also entitled to be sad at the idea of GR history vanishing.


It’s a hard personal balance to strike between keeping good content and getting rid of nasty stuff. You’ve read something into that post that simply isn’t there. I am sorry if it wasn’t clear enough, but if you take it in context with all of the previous posts I’ve made about personal choice and keeping the no context thread going, I’d hope it’s fairly clear that I’m against mandatory censorship of anyone’s post history and feel that it should be a personal choice for each of us to make.

I personally don’t want future employers, or friends I haven’t met yet, reading some of the things I said when I was eighteen, because the posts simply aren’t representative of the person I am fifteen years later.

Given that my previous account had over 50,000 posts it was much easier to have the account taken down than it was to go and individually edit posts. You might be OK with everything you’ve said, and that’s also completely fine - each to their own.


In the context of Staydead's post and your own words, it is unsurprising that I read it as a call for mass deletion of old posts.

I don't think I've said people shouldn't be able to delete their old posts? All I said was I find it sad to lose any of the history of this place. Each to their own.


I never said that you did, I’m clarifying my stance. And as I said, I’m sorry if it wasn’t clear what I meant in that single post, but again I’d hope that my previous posts on the matter make it clear where I stand. And if anything, it shows that the wider context of posts matters! :lol:

And you did say that, but you also called me paranoid, which if I’m honest I thought was a bit OTT - I’m not being paranoid, this has actually affected me off the forum and I’m keen to avoid it happening again! I’m also fully aware that my thoughts on the matter are a) based on my experience, and b) not shared by everyone, so I’m at great pains to make the point that I’m not asking for any action, just offering my tuppence on the matter.


I didn't call you paranoid, my post about paranoia was a general comment, not aimed at you.


Then perhaps I am paranoid :slol:


That's what we all say about you.

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PostRe: The all new No Context thread.
by RetroCora » Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:17 pm

Hexx wrote:
RetroCora wrote:
Moggy wrote:
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Qikz wrote:There's a lot of history in the archive which would be a huge shame to lose if it was gone - same problem I had with gamesradar. There's so many good things that were posted back then that losing it would suck.

Requiring a login though is a great idea. Might drive more people to sign up too.


There are also a lot of wildly inappropriate things posted by people too young to realise any different(I’m very guilty of this). It’s a hard balance to strike between keeping the good content and getting rid of some of the nasty stuff.


First the no context thread and now a vast amount of GR history? All over some paranoia that somehow in the future somebody will be linked to their username here and their posts from 2008 might be discovered?

We might as well just close the forum.


I’m not suggesting we remove it, just making the point that there’s a whole lot of nasty stuff back there. I had my posts deleted, it is down to the individual what they want done with their post history.

I’d also point out that this has actually affected me directly - someone linked in my stream to a thread in which some unacceptable stuff was posted(by me!), which I had to explain to a few people who are unaffiliated with this place, so I think I’m entitled to my caution and I don’t really appreciate the hyperbole. I think I’ve been perfectly reasonable in my posts on this matter, and haven’t called for locks/removal of posts at any point.


Your post said "It’s a hard balance to strike between keeping the good content and getting rid of some of the nasty stuff". So you did call for the removal of posts.

I find it sad that we are even discussing deleting the history of this place. Even if it is just individuals doing it. People have the right to do it of course, but the rest of us are also entitled to be sad at the idea of GR history vanishing.


It’s a hard personal balance to strike between keeping good content and getting rid of nasty stuff. You’ve read something into that post that simply isn’t there. I am sorry if it wasn’t clear enough, but if you take it in context with all of the previous posts I’ve made about personal choice and keeping the no context thread going, I’d hope it’s fairly clear that I’m against mandatory censorship of anyone’s post history and feel that it should be a personal choice for each of us to make.

I personally don’t want future employers, or friends I haven’t met yet, reading some of the things I said when I was eighteen, because the posts simply aren’t representative of the person I am fifteen years later.

Given that my previous account had over 50,000 posts it was much easier to have the account taken down than it was to go and individually edit posts. You might be OK with everything you’ve said, and that’s also completely fine - each to their own.


In the context of Staydead's post and your own words, it is unsurprising that I read it as a call for mass deletion of old posts.

I don't think I've said people shouldn't be able to delete their old posts? All I said was I find it sad to lose any of the history of this place. Each to their own.


I never said that you did, I’m clarifying my stance. And as I said, I’m sorry if it wasn’t clear what I meant in that single post, but again I’d hope that my previous posts on the matter make it clear where I stand. And if anything, it shows that the wider context of posts matters! :lol:

And you did say that, but you also called me paranoid, which if I’m honest I thought was a bit OTT - I’m not being paranoid, this has actually affected me off the forum and I’m keen to avoid it happening again! I’m also fully aware that my thoughts on the matter are a) based on my experience, and b) not shared by everyone, so I’m at great pains to make the point that I’m not asking for any action, just offering my tuppence on the matter.


I didn't call you paranoid, my post about paranoia was a general comment, not aimed at you.


Then perhaps I am paranoid :slol:


That's what we all say about you.


Nooo, stop it! :lol:

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PostRe: The all new No Context thread.
by RetroCora » Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:20 pm

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Did the boffins figure out a way to keep pages in threads over on this here Disco software?


Nah, I think we were just told that we were silly for wanting to keep pages.


Discourse isn't terrible, but for whatever reason I think I'd really struggle with an infinite scroll forum.


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