Epic Star Trek Re-Watch - TOS Movies Final Week - Final Frontier & Undiscovered Country! Pg 28! (TNG NEXT WEEK)

Huzzah!

Catching up on week 2 now with Mudd's Women :fp:

Love how the sound of the ship losing a Lithium Crystal is basically just like a lightbulb going! No wonder they switched to the Dilithium alternative in the future!

Jenuall wrote:Huzzah!

Catching up on week 2 now with Mudd's Women

Love how the sound of the ship losing a Lithium Crystal is basically just like a lightbulb going! No wonder they switched to the Dilithium alternative in the future!

For me the annoying thing about that episode is that Mudd himself is actually quite a fun character. It's just the horrendously dated concept for the story that makes it particularly offensive to watch now.

I have never really watched much Star Trek. A couple of the old movies, the reboot movies and Discovery on Netflix.

Thought I'd join in with this but I'm not convinced by this first episode. Awful acting, sets and effects. :lol:

I realise it must get better though, so might carry on.

It's really off-putting that, for some reason, the aliens (especially the one on the right) remind me of Tilda Swinton's Ancient One character in the Marvel movies. :lol:

Moggy wrote:I have never really watched much Star Trek. A couple of the old movies, the reboot movies and Discovery on Netflix.

Thought I'd join in with this but I'm not convinced by this first episode. Awful acting, sets and effects. I realise it must get better though, so might carry on.

It's really off-putting that, for some reason, the aliens (especially the one on the right) remind me of Tilda Swinton's Ancient One character in the Marvel movies.

"The Cage" is rough to be fair. It was the original Pilot and wasn't actually aired until the late 80's. It does get better though. And even if you don't like TOS there's stuff like TNG, DS9 and Voyager, which are all different and distinct shows.

It'll be good to hear your thoughts though man.

Cheeky Devlin wrote:It'll be good to hear your thoughts though man.

I've started episode 2. Much better so far, although it's making me laugh that any Shatner close ups seem to have to be in soft focus. Was he that vain in the 60s, he can't have been very old? :lol:

Nichelle Nichols though :shock:

I only know her looking old, she was :datass:

back then.

All the close ups are soft focus, especially for the women. Weird choice.

Squinty wrote:All the close ups are soft focus, especially for the women. Weird choice.

I've only seen the first episode with Kirk, I didn't notice it for anybody else.

The Man Trap was decent although a little similar to The Cage. I totally get where Crater was coming from but couldn't understand why the alien was still trying to get salt out of people once back on the Enterprise. There's loads of salt on board, why not use the disguise to raid the salt supplies rather than have the entire ship searching for you because you're killing people?

Cheeky Devlin wrote:
Jenuall wrote:Huzzah!

Catching up on week 2 now with Mudd's Women

Love how the sound of the ship losing a Lithium Crystal is basically just like a lightbulb going! No wonder they switched to the Dilithium alternative in the future!

For me the annoying thing about that episode is that Mudd himself is actually quite a fun character. It's just the horrendously dated concept for the story that makes it particularly offensive to watch now.

Yeah Mudd could have been used in a much better story, he's got some positives going for him and has a decent bit of back and forth with Kirk which could have been built on.

Interesting how we get some odd sounding terminology in these early episodes here, Mudd refers to Spock as "part 'Vulcanian'" which is jarring on the ears as we are now used to just hearing 'Vulcan'. Similarly they still don't seem to have settled on what colour uniform Uhura should wear at this point - she's gone back and forth between red and yellow in these episodes (presumably due to filming and transmission not being in the same order?)

Charlie X

After enjoying the previous episode, this one was a struggle to get through. The weird singalong with Spock playing an instrument was cringey and the Charlie character was such a twat that it was hard to have any sympathy for him.

I did laugh at Kirk getting his shirt off to practice fighting. It was almost like Shatner knew he didn't have long left before going topless wouldn't be an option.

And the soft focus in close ups is maddening. :lol:

Watched "What Are Little Girls Made Of?" last night, whilst there was an interesting concept being explored here regarding duplicates and what makes people "real" this one didn't really grab me in all honesty. I think part of the problem is that Kirk is separated from the crew for most of the time and so you lose that chemistry between the main cast. No matter how exciting it is to see Lurch from the Addams Family he's not as much fun for Kirk to interact with as Spock or Bones

I've just caught up on episodes 7 & 8, Mudd's Women was quite painful although the character of Mudd was amusing.

Enjoyed the android one, but it's a well trodden theme and there wasn't anything I haven't seen before. Still feel like it hasn't taken off as a show, I'm mostly enjoying the individual episodes but it feels like there are a lot of recycled themes and a slight lack of inspiration, it's all unfulfilled potential so far. Perhaps that is to expected after only 8 episodes though!

Where No Man Has Gone Before.

The start of this confused me, they have just gotten rid of Charlie but Kirk seemed amazed at the idea of ESP. After googling, it seems this episode was the second pilot but was just shoved in as episode 3 instead. :lol:

It's an ok episode but suffered from being so similar to the others. I'm 4 episodes in and it's the third time psychic powers have been used by the bad guy(s).

Watched "Kirk and Miri Make a Vaccine" last night, the first but not the last time that we get some kind of alternate or duplicate Earth!

Jenuall wrote:Watched "Kirk and Miri Make a Vaccine" last night, the first but not the last time that we get some kind of alternate or duplicate Earth!

There was a decent concept here with the elongation experiment resulting in a virus that kills off adults, this created a bit of genuine tension for our core characters with the race against time to find a cure.

I think I would have preferred it if there was less emphasis on keeping in contact with the Enterprise and using its technology to help them - an episode where Bones and Spock have to use the old equipment they can find and some genuine nous to work out a solution old school style would have been more rewarding I think.

As is always the case on Trek the kids were strawberry floating annoying, and Kirk's interaction with Miri was incredible creepy and uncomfortable. They basically try to play a romance angle between a man in his mid-30s and a girl who's barely a teenager.

I don't buy that after hundreds of years the kids would all have still been acting exactly like children as well, they would either have developed despite the absence of adults or, possibly much more likely, have killed each other off! Similarly they indicate that the food supplies are about to run out, but it's not really explained (I don't think) how they have survived so far without any obvious indication that they have been producing their own food.

Finally the most annoying thing was that they seemingly had no real interest in the most interesting aspect of the whole episode: why the hell is there a duplicate of Earth out here in the universe!? "Our five year mission: to explore the galaxy but not really show any interest in the things we find there!"

Yeah Miri isn't one of my favourites for a lot of the reasons you mentioned.

It's a bit creepy in the way it's presented between Kirk and Miri, but I do think they make it clear that it's her who's infatuated with him so it just about gets away with it. It's definitely a little uncomfortable in places though.

They utterly ignore the whole "duplicate" earth thing, which is fine as it ultimately has nothing to do with the story. My guess is they set it up that way to explain the sets they were using (TOS quite often will structure a story around pre-existing sets for budget reasons).

Watched "Dagger of the Mind" which is one of the episodes I like, but I think a lot of that is because South Park ripped off huge portions of it for an early episode ("Roger Ebert should lay off the fatty foods" - S2E11). :lol:

Again it's a decent enough episode, but I've not really got much to say about it beyond that.

Some good shots of Shatner hamming it up as well.

Jesus this Miri episode. Kirk is a creepy mummy strawberry floater in it.

Edit - not great

I ended up skipping Miri because the subject matter was something of an anxiety issue for me last year. It used to be an episode I really enjoyed but I just don't think I could watch it now.

Got to love how carefree Kirk is in Dagger of the Mind though. Just sits down in a totally unknown device that may be dangerous and tells someone to just test it out on him. Rather than, I don't know, calling down the Science Officer to check it out first.

The Naked Time

Ahh so that's where the George Takei gif comes from. :lol:

Probably my favourite episode so far, it was fun to see all the characters acting so out of character.

Lagamorph wrote:Got to love how carefree Kirk is in Dagger of the Mind though. Just sits down in a totally unknown device that may be dangerous and tells someone to just test it out on him. Rather than, I don't know, calling down the Science Officer to check it out first.

Was about to say this. He doesn't give a gooseberry fool. Also laughed at the expert being this really hot chick that Kirk had banged.

Please tell me I'm not the only one who sniggered at "Penology" in Dagger of the Mind? :slol:

Spock's wry smile at Kirk's clear discomfort around Helen in the transporter room was great, that guy is definitely in touch with his schadenfreude emotion!

Overall it was another decent episode and based around a nice core theme exploring the reality of how this more utpoian future Star Trek paints is possibly a bit darker than the surface it tries to present

Jenuall wrote:Please tell me I'm not the only one who sniggered at "Penology" in Dagger of the Mind?

Spock's wry smile at Kirk's clear discomfort around Helen in the transporter room was great, that guy is definitely in touch with his schadenfreude emotion!

Overall it was another decent episode and based around a nice core theme exploring the reality of how this more utpoian future Star Trek paints is possibly a bit darker than the surface it tries to present

Pervert

Watched "The Corbomite Maneuver" and it remains one of my favourite episodes of TOS.

Epic Star Trek Re-Watch - TOS Movies Final Week - Final Frontier & Undiscovered Country! Pg 28! (TNG NEXT WEEK)

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