Brexit

Glowy69 wrote:Absolute banter when lots and lots and lots of leave voters who voted primarily for immigration, nothing changes

Meep wrote:One look at the demographic data broken down by age should be enough to convince anyone we cannot afford to dramatically reduce immigration any time soon, Brexit or no. I cannot honestly believe that there are many politicians who are not aware of the current time bomb coming down the generations but they are apparently choosing not to speak out because they are terrified of people like Dacre and Murdoch. Okay, might be a good electoral move, but is not good for the country. MPs need to start being honest with voters about the need for immigration. It would have been helpful if they had done this before the referendum but, hey, no use in crying over spilt milk.

Grumpy David wrote:

Meep wrote:One look at the demographic data broken down by age should be enough to convince anyone we cannot afford to dramatically reduce immigration any time soon, Brexit or no. I cannot honestly believe that there are many politicians who are not aware of the current time bomb coming down the generations but they are apparently choosing not to speak out because they are terrified of people like Dacre and Murdoch. Okay, might be a good electoral move, but is not good for the country. MPs need to start being honest with voters about the need for immigration. It would have been helpful if they had done this before the referendum but, hey, no use in crying over spilt milk.

Isn't that just a ponzi scheme?

Once all the young people become old people, we then need an even larger younger population to pay for the even larger elderly population.

Reality is retirement ages need to go up and state pensions need to go down, but old people won't vote for that.

NickSCFC wrote:Can't decide who I despise more, Nuttall or Corbyn.

I'll be voting for our local Tory boy, I've been impressed with his efforts in attracting regeneration to the city.

Rex Kramer wrote:Paul Nuttalls of the UKIPs

Reuters wrote:Net migration to Britain falls to lowest in more than two years

Net migration to Britain has fallen to its lowest in more than two years, official data showed on Thursday, partly driven by an increase in the number of people from some eastern European countries leaving.

But the Office for National Statistics (ONS) said it was too early to discern the long-term migration effects of Britain's referendum decision last June to leave the EU.

ONS figures showed a net 273,000 people came to Britain in the year to last September, down 49,000 from the previous year and the lowest recorded figure since the year ending June 2014.

Net migration of EU citizens during the period, the first to include the three months following the referendum, was 165,000, a drop of 6,000 on the previous year.

The ONS said there had been a statistically significant increase in emigration by citizens from the so-called EU8 countries -- Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia and Slovenia -- up 12,000 to 39,000.

The number of people arriving from those countries also fell, it said.

Meanwhile the numbers of people arriving from Bulgaria and Romania rose by 19,000 to 74,000, the highest ever level.

"Although we have seen a fall in net migration of EU8 citizens there have been continued increases in immigration from Romania and Bulgaria, so it is too early to say what effect the referendum result has had on long-term international migration," said Nicola White, head of international migration statistics at the ONS.

Figures earlier this month showed a steady rise in the number of EU migrants working in Britain stalled at the end of 2016, suggesting the Brexit vote and the subsequent fall in the value of the pound, might have made the country less attractive as a place to work.

After a surge in immigration over the past 20 years, Britain has one of the highest proportions of non-native workers among European countries. Worries about migration were a big factor in last June's vote to leave the EU.

Prime Minister Theresa May has recommitted to her predecessor's pledge to cut annual net migration to under 100,000 and has promised to ensure Britain regains control of immigration as part of its Brexit deal.

Immigration minister Robert Goodwill told Sky TV Thursday's figures were "very encouraging indeed" and he hoped further progress could be made towards the 100,000 target.

Grumpy David wrote:I suspect Labour will edge it. 1st but with a reduced margin.

Torn between wanting that to happen to keep Corbyn in charge for as long as possible vs wanting UKIP to get in.

Moggy wrote:

Grumpy David wrote:I suspect Labour will edge it. 1st but with a reduced margin.

Torn between wanting that to happen to keep Corbyn in charge for as long as possible vs wanting UKIP to get in.

Corbyn wont go anywhere until he loses a General Election.

Even if you want UKIP to get in (why? Hard Brexit is happening) I can’t understand how anybody could want Paul “I’m a liar” Nuttall to get in.

Rex Kramer wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Grumpy David wrote:I suspect Labour will edge it. 1st but with a reduced margin.

Torn between wanting that to happen to keep Corbyn in charge for as long as possible vs wanting UKIP to get in.

Corbyn wont go anywhere until he loses a General Election.

Even if you want UKIP to get in (why? Hard Brexit is happening) I can’t understand how anybody could want Paul “I’m a liar” Nuttall to get in.

I don't know what you mean, who wouldn't want the first person to entirely sequence the human genome as their MP?

THE DUP transferred £9,000 from the donation it received for its Brexit campaign into normal party funds.

Details of the funding emerged as the DUP last night continued to face questions over a pro-union group bankrolling its £425,000 Brexit campaign.

Amid mounting pressure to make public the mystery donor, the party yesterday confirmed it was financed by the Constitutional Research Council (CRC).

More than half was spent on a £282,000 front-page wraparound advertisement in the British newspaper Metro – a publication not circulated in Northern Ireland.


The names of donors in Northern Ireland are automatically withheld due to Troubles-era rules which sought to protect their security

Details about the negotiations were first aired in Mr Banks’ memoirs, The Bad Boys of Brexit, when he wrote: “The DUP is demanding cold, hard cash in exchange for its support! Thirty grand a month, to be precise. I know Northern Irish politics is dirty, but this is crazy. It all came about because Farage is mates with [DUP MP] Ian Paisley Junior.”

BBC News wrote:Nearly 10 attacks were made on migrants in Germany every day in 2016, the interior ministry says.

A total of 560 people were injured in the violence, including 43 children.

Three-quarters of the attacks targeted migrants outside of their accommodation, while nearly 1,000 attacks were on housing.

Chancellor Angela Merkel's decision to open up Germany to people fleeing conflict and persecution has polarised the country and boosted hate crime.

Germany is struggling with a backlog of asylum applications and there are fears about security following a series of terrorist attacks across Europe.

But the number of asylum seekers arriving in Germany in 2016 was 280,000, a drop of more than 600,000 from the previous year, following the closure of the Balkan migrant route and an EU deal with Turkey.

The issue is expected to feature heavily in parliamentary elections this September.

Sunday's interior ministry figures, which are preliminary, were released in response to a parliamentary question.

There was no comparison with previous years because attacks against individual migrants only started to be counted as a separate category in 2016.

Attacks on asylum shelters and migrants

December 2015 - 12 people injured after fires broke out at two hostels in Wasserstein, Bavaria
January 2016 - Live grenade thrown at hostel housing 170 people in the south-western town in Villingen-Schwenningen but fails to detonate
February 2016 - Fire in Bautzen, eastern Germany, destroys roof of building planned to house migrants. Police say some onlookers cheered the fire and tried to prevent firefighters from extinguishing the blaze
September 2016 - Residents clash with migrants in Bautzen
February 2017 - Politician from the far-right NPD jailed for eight years for burning down a sports hall to be used to house migrants in Nauen, west of Berlin, in August 2015

The interior ministry figures
3,533 attacks on migrants and asylum hostels in 2016
2.545 attacks on individual migrants
560 people injured, including 43 children
988 attacks on housing (slightly fewer than in 2015)
217 attacks on refugee organisations and volunteers