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Re: Brexit
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:34 pm
by Squinty
Return_of_the_STAR wrote:Hexx wrote:France joining Germany to say talks will be sequential, with exit process compelted first, not concurrent as the UK wants/demands.
Going well so far
Yeah I think the exit talks will take all of the two years, that's if they are even completed in the two years. Especially if they want us to pay an exit fee.
Talks might be done within two years, but I'm fairly sure the civil service will need extra time to get everything in order before we officially leave. I'd expect to hear media reports of departments being in absolute turmoil. I don't think people believe or fathom what a monumental task this will be for the government.
I must say, at this point, the realisation has set in that we are on this course, and I'm just wishing that everything goes better than I expect it to. I don't particularly find myself as being vindictive or willing this to fail, because it will affect us all. Uncertain times
Re: Brexit
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:40 pm
by Errkal
This great repeal bill gooseberry fool sounds like a real way to bypass democracy!
If it works Brexit ministers will have the right to change EU Laws as they transfer to UK Law without parliament!
I have jokingly said May will try and pull some gooseberry fool to make emergency measures or something to take absolute power and be a dictator, but this is more and more edging that way! This bitch is evil!
Re: Brexit
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:43 pm
by Hexx
Errkal wrote:This great repeal bill gooseberry fool sounds like a real way to bypass democracy!
If it works Brexit ministers will have the right to change EU Laws as they transfer to UK Law without parliament!
I have jokingly said May will try and pull some gooseberry fool to make emergency measures or something to take absolute power and be a dictator, but this is more and more edging that way! This bitch is evil!
Yep.
They've said they're going to make lots of "corrections" to EU Law as they "transfer them" to Britain.
They'll be SI's so can be challenged in courts I believe - but watch those Judges quickly become "ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE" when the look at HOW Brexit is occuring.
Re: Brexit
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:46 pm
by Squinty
Errkal wrote:This great repeal bill gooseberry fool sounds like a real way to bypass democracy!
If it works Brexit ministers will have the right to change EU Laws as they transfer to UK Law without parliament!
I have jokingly said May will try and pull some gooseberry fool to make emergency measures or something to take absolute power and be a dictator, but this is more and more edging that way! This bitch is evil!
I read this from another outlet and automatically assumed it was bullshit
Re: Brexit
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:49 pm
by Moggy
Squinty wrote:Errkal wrote:This great repeal bill gooseberry fool sounds like a real way to bypass democracy!
If it works Brexit ministers will have the right to change EU Laws as they transfer to UK Law without parliament!
I have jokingly said May will try and pull some gooseberry fool to make emergency measures or something to take absolute power and be a dictator, but this is more and more edging that way! This bitch is evil!
I read this from another outlet and automatically assumed it was bullshit
It's not bullshit. In order to make ourselves INDEPENDENT, FREE and DEMOCRATIC, we are about to allow the Tory party full control over a vast swathe of rules, laws and regulations and they will not even have to ask Parliament for permission.
FREEDOM!!
Re: Brexit
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:49 pm
by Errkal
You would think it would be shot down in the papers and in Parliament but with Cuntwad Corbyn on watch it will probably get the old twats seal of approval.
Re: Brexit
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:50 pm
by Hexx
Squinty wrote:Errkal wrote:This great repeal bill gooseberry fool sounds like a real way to bypass democracy!
If it works Brexit ministers will have the right to change EU Laws as they transfer to UK Law without parliament!
I have jokingly said May will try and pull some gooseberry fool to make emergency measures or something to take absolute power and be a dictator, but this is more and more edging that way! This bitch is evil!
I read this from another outlet and automatically assumed it was bullshit
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ter-brexit
Re: Brexit
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:52 pm
by Moggy
Errkal wrote:You would think it would be shot down in the papers and in Parliament but with Cuntwad Corbyn on watch it will probably get the old twats seal of approval.
Corbyn will just wait until the Tories have done everything they wanted and it is all far too late and then he will say "well I think we should all have final approval" and he'll think he has done his job properly.
Re: Brexit
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:53 pm
by Errkal
Moggy wrote:Errkal wrote:You would think it would be shot down in the papers and in Parliament but with Cuntwad Corbyn on watch it will probably get the old twats seal of approval.
Corbyn will just wait until the Tories have done everything they wanted and it is all far too late and then he will say "well I think we should all have final approval" and he'll think he has done his job properly.
Yup, worthless prick.
Re: Brexit
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:23 pm
by KK
I wouldn't read too much into what is said publicly. There will be this hardline approach from both sides, which will then loosen in negotiations and within time. Neither side will want to look like they've lost. You always go into negotiations or bartering asking for the moon on a stick. Not in a rude manner, but it's the equivalent of asking for 90% off your Sky bill and walking away with 65%.
Brexiteers are going to be angry about the leaving bill (it won't be 50, but it will be substantial) and concessions on other areas such as immigration.
If all goes wrong, we've already heard some of the things we'll end up with (tax haven, secrecy on security), and you could also add the military to that. Worst case scenario I suppose would be the UK and USA sitting back as Putin invades other parts of Europe, which would of course be outrageous. The U.K. does have options, but none of them would be particularly right. You get into this war of sabotaging each other. But we're a long way off from that yet.
Re: Brexit
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:32 pm
by Moggy
KK wrote:Worst case scenario I suppose would be the UK and USA sitting back as Putin invades other parts of Europe,
That would only happen if we are leaving NATO as well.
Which with Trump in charge could well happen.
Re: Brexit
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:41 pm
by Hexx
Moggy wrote:KK wrote:Worst case scenario I suppose would be the UK and USA sitting back as Putin invades other parts of Europe,
That would only happen if we are leaving NATO as well.
Which with Trump in charge could well happen.
Could we get a bill from the EU for leaving, and a "NATO Bill" from Trump?
Re: Brexit
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:44 pm
by Moggy
Hexx wrote:Moggy wrote:KK wrote:Worst case scenario I suppose would be the UK and USA sitting back as Putin invades other parts of Europe,
That would only happen if we are leaving NATO as well.
Which with Trump in charge could well happen.
Could we get a bill from the EU for leaving, and a "NATO Bill" from Trump?
No, as we meet the spending guidelines. The only countries that spend 2% (or more) of GDP on defence are the USA, UK, Poland, Greece and Estonia. The others might get a bill.
Re: RE: Re: Brexit
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:59 pm
by Dinoric
Peter Crisp wrote:The first thing we should do is reverse the decreasing size of chocolate bars and get them back to being how they should be.
That's never going to happen now. Chocolate companies are going to use every excuse they can now to rip off customers.
Re: RE: Re: Brexit
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:01 pm
by Moggy
Dinoric wrote:Peter Crisp wrote:The first thing we should do is reverse the decreasing size of chocolate bars and get them back to being how they should be.
That's never going to happen now. Chocolate companies are going to use every excuse they can now to rip off customers.
They are bound to increase in size now we can measure in pounds and ounces.
Re: RE: Re: Brexit
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:01 pm
by Errkal
Dinoric wrote:Peter Crisp wrote:The first thing we should do is reverse the decreasing size of chocolate bars and get them back to being how they should be.
That's never going to happen now. Chocolate companies are going to use every excuse they can now to rip off customers.
And health charities are calling for them to be shrink further because of fat kids, you know because parents are strawberry floating useless and instead of saying you are a fat banana split child you aren't having that they go yeah sure and blame cadburys for selling it not their own useless arse self.
Re: RE: Re: Brexit
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:03 pm
by Moggy
Errkal wrote:because parents are strawberry floating useless
How strawberry floating rude! I'll have you know that my 10 months old much prefers chocolate milk to normal milk and his body will know what is best for itself.
Re: RE: Re: Brexit
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:06 pm
by Errkal
Moggy wrote:Errkal wrote:because parents are strawberry floating useless
How strawberry floating rude! I'll have you know that my 10 months old much prefers chocolate milk to normal milk and his body will know what is best for itself.
As a parent, I feel all sugar should be banned for all people because I just can't tell little Amelia no and I find it disgusting Silver Spoon sell sugar forcing me to give it to her!
Re: RE: Re: Brexit
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:12 pm
by Moggy
Errkal wrote:Moggy wrote:Errkal wrote:because parents are strawberry floating useless
How strawberry floating rude! I'll have you know that my 10 months old much prefers chocolate milk to normal milk and his body will know what is best for itself.
As a parent, I feel all sugar should be banned for all people because I just can't tell little Amelia no and I find it disgusting Silver Spoon sell sugar forcing me to give it to her!
As a father I feel you have a disgusting attitude towards your child's needs. Children need sugar to help their bones grow, little Amelia knows this and you are depriving her. You should hang your head in shame.
Re: Brexit
Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 8:57 am
by Hexx