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Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

Remain a member of the European Union
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80%
Leave the European Union
57
20%
 
Total votes: 279
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PostRe: Brexit
by Errkal » Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:13 pm

lex-man wrote:
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lex-man wrote:Apparently John Redwood is advising investors to stay clear of the UK and invest in mainland Europe.


Disaster capitalism?


The guy seems to be willfully destroying this countries economy. It's like he knows brexit is a bad idea and is still carrying it out.

If other investors piss of and gooseberry fool tanks and you have money you can make a mint by being the investor and taking huge equity as there are no other options etc.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:14 pm

lex-man wrote:
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lex-man wrote:Apparently John Redwood is advising investors to stay clear of the UK and invest in mainland Europe.


Disaster capitalism?


The guy seems to be willfully destroying this countries economy. It's like he knows brexit is a bad idea and is still carrying it out.


He knows it’s bad for this country and for most of the people in this country.

That doesn’t mean it’s bad for him or his friends. I imagine people like Redwood, Farage and Johnson will do very very well out of it.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Squinty » Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:16 pm


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PostRe: Brexit
by Squinty » Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:39 pm

Brexit studies apparently don't exist now? I think? What the strawberry float is going on.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:40 pm

Squinty wrote:What the strawberry float is going on.


David Davis is a lying worm.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Squinty » Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:46 pm

twitter.com/SeemaMalhotra1/status/927874880426606593



HE SAID THEY DID. NUMEROUS TIMES.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:11 pm

Squinty wrote:

twitter.com/SeemaMalhotra1/status/927874880426606593



HE SAID THEY DID. NUMEROUS TIMES.


twitter.com/f_grovewhite/status/927885456745861120


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PostRe: Brexit
by Photek » Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:34 pm

Moggy wrote:
Squinty wrote:What the strawberry float is going on.


David Davis is a lying worm.

Wait wait, hold on, so in essence they they are now using a version of "the dog ate my homework" to explain why they can't show their homework.

Here's the thing, as shocked as I was when the leave vote won, over the many many years of watching your TV stations and stuff at the back of my mind I always thought "the UK government seem ok, I'm sure they'll work something out" but since that vote I actually think your government is a shower of absolute clowns, I mean, what the actual f*ck is and has been going on for the past year? It's a shambles. Europe is laughing at you, very very loudly.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Lex-Man » Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:37 pm

This is crazy. Apparently if it turns out that the assessments do exist, David Davis can be charged with a criminal offence. So we could have that to look forward to.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Rex Kramer » Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:41 pm

I'm not sure which is worse, Davis lying about these reports or him telling the truth and we actually haven't done any impact studies at all. With the current government either option is equally likely.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:41 pm

Photek wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Squinty wrote:What the strawberry float is going on.


David Davis is a lying worm.

Wait wait, hold on, so in essence they they are now using a version of "the dog ate my homework" to explain why they can't show their homework.

Here's the thing, as shocked as I was when the leave vote won, over the many many years of watching your TV stations and stuff at the back of my mind I always thought "the UK government seem ok, I'm sure they'll work something out" but since that vote I actually think your government is a shower of absolute clowns, I mean, what the actual f*ck is and has been going on for the past year? It's a shambles. Europe is laughing at you, very very loudly.


That really unfair. It’s not just Europe laughing at us. :x

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PostRe: Brexit
by <]:^D » Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:43 pm

:fp:

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PostRe: Brexit
by DML » Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:05 pm

You guys who still are backing Brexit at this point...you must be stupid. Sorry.

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PostRe: Brexit
by KK » Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:10 pm

BBC News wrote:'UK wellbeing rises after Brexit vote'

In the year after the UK narrowly voted to exit the European Union, there was a small but significant increase in the population's feeling of wellbeing, official statistics show.

The improvements in areas such as life satisfaction and happiness were seen only in England, however. Elsewhere, the rates flatlined.

People in Northern Ireland continued to report the highest levels of wellbeing.

Rates of anxiety increased slightly, but not significantly.

To obtain the Office for National Statistics data, more than 100,000 adult UK residents were asked to answer the following questions, on a scale of nought to 10, with nought being "not at all" and 10 being "completely":

    Overall, how satisfied are you with your life nowadays?
    Overall, to what extent do you feel the things you do in your life are worthwhile?
    Overall, how happy did you feel yesterday?
    Overall, how anxious did you feel yesterday?

A higher proportion of people reported very high levels of life satisfaction, happiness and feelings that life was worthwhile in the year ending June 2017 compared with the previous year.

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The average ratings at the end of June 2017 were:

  • 7.7 out of 10 for life satisfaction
  • 7.9 out of 10 for feeling worthwhile
  • 7.5 out of 10 for happiness
  • 2.9 out of 10 for anxiety
The ONS statistical bulletin suggests possible social and economic factors that might help explain the results.

"Employment and job satisfaction, our health, the quality of our relationships and our financial situation are just some of the aspects of our lives shown to have an effect," it says.

For example, the employment rate is at its highest level since comparable records began in 1971 and the unemployment rate is at its joint lowest since 1975.

There have also been improvements is gross domestic product per head and net national disposable income per head. But the ONS points out that real household disposable income per head has fallen for the fourth quarter in a row.

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Over the year the data covers there have been "various situations of uncertainty", says the ONS - a new prime minister, a vote to leave the EU and several terror attacks.

"Considering this, it may be surprising that levels of personal wellbeing are increasing. However, it is important to note these figures are only reported at a country and national level, and are presented over the year. It is therefore possible that any sudden or individual change in personal wellbeing may not be seen in the data," it says.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-41893598

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PostRe: Brexit
by DML » Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:13 pm

KKLEIN quickly posting some positive Brexit news there.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Photek » Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:16 pm

KK wrote:
BBC News wrote:'UK wellbeing rises after Brexit vote'

In the year after the UK narrowly voted to exit the European Union, there was a small but significant increase in the population's feeling of wellbeing, official statistics show.

The improvements in areas such as life satisfaction and happiness were seen only in England, however. Elsewhere, the rates flatlined.

People in Northern Ireland continued to report the highest levels of wellbeing.

Rates of anxiety increased slightly, but not significantly.

To obtain the Office for National Statistics data, more than 100,000 adult UK residents were asked to answer the following questions, on a scale of nought to 10, with nought being "not at all" and 10 being "completely":

    Overall, how satisfied are you with your life nowadays?
    Overall, to what extent do you feel the things you do in your life are worthwhile?
    Overall, how happy did you feel yesterday?
    Overall, how anxious did you feel yesterday?

A higher proportion of people reported very high levels of life satisfaction, happiness and feelings that life was worthwhile in the year ending June 2017 compared with the previous year.

Image

The average ratings at the end of June 2017 were:

  • 7.7 out of 10 for life satisfaction
  • 7.9 out of 10 for feeling worthwhile
  • 7.5 out of 10 for happiness
  • 2.9 out of 10 for anxiety
The ONS statistical bulletin suggests possible social and economic factors that might help explain the results.

"Employment and job satisfaction, our health, the quality of our relationships and our financial situation are just some of the aspects of our lives shown to have an effect," it says.

For example, the employment rate is at its highest level since comparable records began in 1971 and the unemployment rate is at its joint lowest since 1975.

There have also been improvements is gross domestic product per head and net national disposable income per head. But the ONS points out that real household disposable income per head has fallen for the fourth quarter in a row.

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Over the year the data covers there have been "various situations of uncertainty", says the ONS - a new prime minister, a vote to leave the EU and several terror attacks.

"Considering this, it may be surprising that levels of personal wellbeing are increasing. However, it is important to note these figures are only reported at a country and national level, and are presented over the year. It is therefore possible that any sudden or individual change in personal wellbeing may not be seen in the data," it says.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-41893598


How can the 'well being' rise AND 'anxiety'?

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PostRe: Brexit
by Photek » Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:19 pm

London yesterday:

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PostRe: Brexit
by That » Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:21 pm

Can't wait to see those graphs 5 years after no deal.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:23 pm

DML wrote:KKLEIN quickly posting some positive Brexit news there.


I’m not sure it is. Wellbeing rising or falling is probably completely unrelated to the Brexit vote. Things have also not really changed for the majority of British people, we are still in the EU after all.

Karl’s right, the graphs in 5 years will be far more interesting.

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PostRe: Brexit
by <]:^D » Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:47 pm

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