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Outstanding line there at the end.

Lagamorph wrote:Brilliant speech. Farron needs to do more to get himself in the public eye starting right now in readiness for by-elections and the 2020 GE.

Rumours are abound we're getting an election this year.

DML wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:Brilliant speech. Farron needs to do more to get himself in the public eye starting right now in readiness for by-elections and the 2020 GE.

Rumours are abound we're getting an election this year.

Makes sense, trigger a massive country breaking fuckfest, run off and let someone else deal with it.

DML wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:Brilliant speech. Farron needs to do more to get himself in the public eye starting right now in readiness for by-elections and the 2020 GE.

Rumours are abound we're getting an election this year.

Personally I really hope it waits until next year to give people time to see May's policies in action, but that's probably why she'll hold it as early as possible.

Lagamorph wrote:
DML wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:Brilliant speech. Farron needs to do more to get himself in the public eye starting right now in readiness for by-elections and the 2020 GE.

Rumours are abound we're getting an election this year.

Personally I really hope it waits until next year to give people time to see May's policies in action, but that's probably why she'll hold it as early as possible.

Yeah it will be done early so she can say "Everyone voted for this" and have an actual (although really bullshit) mandate.

Article 50 to be triggered on 29th March,

https://www.apnews.com/d2e35619edf5460a8d84abb50b14cfb2

Britain's ambassador to the EU, Tim Barrow, informed the European Council President Donald Tusk of the timing on Monday morning, the Department for Exiting the European Union said. The notification of triggering Article 50 of a key EU treaty will come in the form of a letter delivered to Tusk — though it was unclear whether it would come through an actual letter or an electronic missive.

DML wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:Brilliant speech. Farron needs to do more to get himself in the public eye starting right now in readiness for by-elections and the 2020 GE.

Rumours are abound we're getting an election this year.

If May wants an election then she ought to have called it before triggering Article 50.

Lagamorph wrote:Article 50 to be triggered on 29th March,

At least that's my brother's birthday present sorted out. Cheers Theresa!

Errkal wrote:
DML wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:Brilliant speech. Farron needs to do more to get himself in the public eye starting right now in readiness for by-elections and the 2020 GE.

Rumours are abound we're getting an election this year.

Makes sense, trigger a massive country breaking fuckfest, run off and let someone else deal with it.

I think it would be her only option of getting a second term. If she doesn't call an early GE then the Brexit separation will only be about a year before the next date. Irrelevant of how it all shakes down, the country is going to be in a mess for at least a couple of years. If she calls one now for later in the year then she's got at least 3 years to let the dust settle before having to go to the polls.

Rex Kramer wrote:
Errkal wrote:
DML wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:Brilliant speech. Farron needs to do more to get himself in the public eye starting right now in readiness for by-elections and the 2020 GE.

Rumours are abound we're getting an election this year.

Makes sense, trigger a massive country breaking fuckfest, run off and let someone else deal with it.

I think it would be her only option of getting a second term. If she doesn't call an early GE then the Brexit separation will only be about a year before the next date. Irrelevant of how it all shakes down, the country is going to be in a mess for at least a couple of years. If she calls one now for later in the year then she's got at least 3 years to let the dust settle before having to go to the polls.

On the plus side (for Theresa) it would probably be the most risk free election of all time - she would annihilate Corbyn at the moment.

On the negative side (for Theresa) it would probably result in Labour ditching the annihilated Corbyn and she might then actually have to face an opposition (well assuming that there are any Labour MPs left

).

Rise Lib Dems Rise!

I wonder if Farron's power play for the business sector and the middle ground is making her nervous (particularly his talk of MPs defecting)? Her majority is too slight at the moment to take too many defections/by elections. She'd certainly make significant gains in those labour seats where their majorities are small but on the flipside she'll probably lose a couple of seats to the Lib Dems in the remain areas.

Errkal wrote:Rise Lib Dems Rise!

They're definitely who I'm voting for at the next opportunity. My constituency was Lib Dem last time around but swung back to Labour at the last GE, so at least there's a possibility.
My area was also heavily leave though so....

If the Lib Dems can appeal to the "I voted Leave but I think I made a mistake" voters I think they could do very very well, realistically they are the only option now that Labour are headed by a monumental fuckwit.

Surely their main target is the 48% who voted Remain?

Rex Kramer wrote:Surely their main target is the 48% who voted Remain?

Absolutely, and its why they will make an absolute killing at the next election.

I am usually a Lib Dem voter (Clegg turned me away from them last time. Clegg

) but I like my current Labour MP even though I have nothing but contempt for the Labour leader. Farron is ok, but I am not sure that he will be able to hold back his religious views ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Farron#LGBT_rights ) when it comes to civil liberties.

Unless we have a snap election, I guess I have plenty of time to make a decision before the 2020 election!

Moggy wrote:
Errkal wrote:
Moggy wrote:
captain red dog wrote:
Moggy wrote:Parliament is going to have to pass up to 15 new bills in order to deliver Brexit.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39322297

So after a year of nothing really getting done due to Brexit, we are likely to have at least another 2 years of nothing getting done thanks to Brexit.

Yay!

Well parliament might have to actually work full time, it amazes me how they can justify a massive summer recess every year! That's one of the things with live streaming on BBC parliament, you tune in for an important debate and the chamber is less than a third full. Granted that's not the only function of Parliament but its terrible optics.

That's one of the common misunderstandings of how the British Parliament works. People seem to think that if they are not in Parliament itself that it means they are not doing anything.

A "full time" Parliament with every single MP attending would mean that there is no chance of anybody ever meeting their MP at a local surgery. It would mean MPs not visiting local business/schools/hospitals/whatever. It would mean no foreign diplomatic/business trips.

There are also not enough seats for everybody to turn up at the same time.

Which is why they should modernise a bit and allow better conferencing, remote voting or whatever to allow better attendance and so a better parliament.

They probably should but that still doesn't change the fact that they need time away from Parliament (whether physically or remotely) in order to carry out their jobs.

I still don't think parliament has been modernised enough to meet the demands of the modern world. Every summer we seem to have calls to recall parliament because of some crisis because they all seem to bugger off for two months and that time certainly isn't spent meeting constituents.

captain red dog wrote:they all seem to bugger off for two months and that time certainly isn't spent meeting constituents.

Well I am sure they all have a holiday in the summer, I can't see anything wrong with that.

But you are wrong if you think they don't meet constituents. I can't be arsed tracking every single MPs schedule for the entire summer, but a quick Google search of "MP Summer Surgery" shows that they do tour their constituencies in the summer. https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q= ... ry&*&spf=1

Rex Kramer wrote:I wonder if Farron's power play for the business sector and the middle ground is making her nervous (particularly his talk of MPs defecting)? Her majority is too slight at the moment to take too many defections/by elections. She'd certainly make significant gains in those labour seats where their majorities are small but on the flipside she'll probably lose a couple of seats to the Lib Dems in the remain areas.

It's probably a gamble worth taking. They might lose a few areas but overall they'll probably gain and the opposition will be more fragmented than now.

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