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Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

Remain a member of the European Union
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80%
Leave the European Union
57
20%
 
Total votes: 279
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PostRe: Brexit
by Lagamorph » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:17 pm

OrangeRakoon wrote:
Karl wrote:Bloody Beaker-folk, coming over here, teaching us how to put water in cups.


I'm starting to wonder jut how many of your posts are Stewart Lee references

They're Stewart Lee references? No wonder they're so painfully unfunny.

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PostRe: Brexit
by OrangeRKN » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:31 pm

My mate had a huge crush on Stewart Lee, but even she's starting to admit time hasn't been kind to him

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PostRe: Brexit
by Rocsteady » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:35 pm

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Camp Freddie wrote:This talk of preserving our culture and heritage makes me nervous, since it is a bit of a dogwhistle. "Protecting our culture and heritage" has been a slogan of many hard-right and fascist parties.
However, it's also true that a harder line on immigration by the EU would've swung at least 2% of the vote and kept us in the EU.


I know KK said it would have changed the result, I said it wouldn't, and you've said it would - and of course none of us actually knows so it's all hyperbole; however, immigration was a big issue for the UK even before Merkel allowed a million refugees into Germany (and that was over a year ago).

Someone (or a lot of EU member-state leaders) saying the EU should protect its borders would have been seen as pretty much meaningless talk; I doubt anyone who was concerned about immigration would have changed their mind because of some chatter from politicians who were in power then.

Funny then that some MEP saying that we’d cut immigration has led to us leaving the EU.

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PostRe: Brexit
by That » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:35 pm

Lagamorph wrote:
OrangeRakoon wrote:
Karl wrote:Bloody Beaker-folk, coming over here, teaching us how to put water in cups.

I'm starting to wonder jut how many of your posts are Stewart Lee references

They're Stewart Lee references? No wonder they're so painfully unfunny.

OrangeRakoon wrote:My mate had a huge crush on Stewart Lee, but even she's starting to admit time hasn't been kind to him

I actually know Stewart Lee -- not well, but I can in fact confirm that he is a cock! I've spoken to him several times in the past at various get-togethers (although not recently) and he is a pillock. He used to go out with my wife's cousin -- he came up a few times for Christmas and one or two other things. I found him to be condescending and arrogant. Anyway, they've split up now and my wife's cousin seems a lot happier.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Rocsteady » Wed Oct 25, 2017 5:44 pm

Lucien wrote:
Rocsteady wrote:
Lucien wrote:
Camp Freddie wrote:This talk of preserving our culture and heritage makes me nervous, since it is a bit of a dogwhistle. "Protecting our culture and heritage" has been a slogan of many hard-right and fascist parties.
However, it's also true that a harder line on immigration by the EU would've swung at least 2% of the vote and kept us in the EU.


I know KK said it would have changed the result, I said it wouldn't, and you've said it would - and of course none of us actually knows so it's all hyperbole; however, immigration was a big issue for the UK even before Merkel allowed a million refugees into Germany (and that was over a year ago).

Someone (or a lot of EU member-state leaders) saying the EU should protect its borders would have been seen as pretty much meaningless talk; I doubt anyone who was concerned about immigration would have changed their mind because of some chatter from politicians who were in power then.


Funny then that some MEP saying that we’d cut immigration has led to us leaving the EU.


He said if we left the EU we could fully control immigration, which was true. You can't do that inside the EU, regardless of other countries' immigration policies (which can change at any time with new elections and leaders).

You’re shifting the goalposts. The initial discussion was around someone in the EU's statements apparently having no ability to impact the referendum.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Tafdolphin » Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:22 pm

Karl wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:
OrangeRakoon wrote:
Karl wrote:Bloody Beaker-folk, coming over here, teaching us how to put water in cups.

I'm starting to wonder jut how many of your posts are Stewart Lee references

They're Stewart Lee references? No wonder they're so painfully unfunny.

OrangeRakoon wrote:My mate had a huge crush on Stewart Lee, but even she's starting to admit time hasn't been kind to him

I actually know Stewart Lee -- not well, but I can in fact confirm that he is a cock! I've spoken to him several times in the past at various get-togethers (although not recently) and he is a pillock. He used to go out with my wife's cousin -- he came up a few times for Christmas and one or two other things. I found him to be condescending and arrogant. Anyway, they've split up now and my wife's cousin seems a lot happier.


As someone who strawberry floating loves Stewart Lee I adore the fact he's a real life arsehole. I'm extremely glad it's not all an act.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Lex-Man » Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:33 pm

Tafdolphin wrote:
Karl wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:
OrangeRakoon wrote:
Karl wrote:Bloody Beaker-folk, coming over here, teaching us how to put water in cups.

I'm starting to wonder jut how many of your posts are Stewart Lee references

They're Stewart Lee references? No wonder they're so painfully unfunny.

OrangeRakoon wrote:My mate had a huge crush on Stewart Lee, but even she's starting to admit time hasn't been kind to him

I actually know Stewart Lee -- not well, but I can in fact confirm that he is a cock! I've spoken to him several times in the past at various get-togethers (although not recently) and he is a pillock. He used to go out with my wife's cousin -- he came up a few times for Christmas and one or two other things. I found him to be condescending and arrogant. Anyway, they've split up now and my wife's cousin seems a lot happier.


As someone who strawberry floating loves Stewart Lee I adore the fact he's a real life arsehole. I'm extremely glad it's not all an act.


Ignore Karl he's just stealing posts from Mumsnet.

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PostRe: Brexit
by That » Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:56 pm

lex-man wrote:
Tafdolphin wrote:
Karl wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:
OrangeRakoon wrote:
Karl wrote:Bloody Beaker-folk, coming over here, teaching us how to put water in cups.

I'm starting to wonder jut how many of your posts are Stewart Lee references

They're Stewart Lee references? No wonder they're so painfully unfunny.

OrangeRakoon wrote:My mate had a huge crush on Stewart Lee, but even she's starting to admit time hasn't been kind to him

I actually know Stewart Lee -- not well, but I can in fact confirm that he is a cock! I've spoken to him several times in the past at various get-togethers (although not recently) and he is a pillock. He used to go out with my wife's cousin -- he came up a few times for Christmas and one or two other things. I found him to be condescending and arrogant. Anyway, they've split up now and my wife's cousin seems a lot happier.


As someone who strawberry floating loves Stewart Lee I adore the fact he's a real life arsehole. I'm extremely glad it's not all an act.


Ignore Karl he's just stealing posts from Mumsnet.


I tried to watch Stewart Lee but had to stop due to him being gooseberry fool. He addressed an insular cadre of socially challenged, prematurely middle-aged, pseudo-intellectual men, I thought.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Tafdolphin » Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:59 pm

Karl wrote:
lex-man wrote:
Tafdolphin wrote:
Karl wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:
OrangeRakoon wrote:
Karl wrote:Bloody Beaker-folk, coming over here, teaching us how to put water in cups.

I'm starting to wonder jut how many of your posts are Stewart Lee references

They're Stewart Lee references? No wonder they're so painfully unfunny.

OrangeRakoon wrote:My mate had a huge crush on Stewart Lee, but even she's starting to admit time hasn't been kind to him

I actually know Stewart Lee -- not well, but I can in fact confirm that he is a cock! I've spoken to him several times in the past at various get-togethers (although not recently) and he is a pillock. He used to go out with my wife's cousin -- he came up a few times for Christmas and one or two other things. I found him to be condescending and arrogant. Anyway, they've split up now and my wife's cousin seems a lot happier.


As someone who strawberry floating loves Stewart Lee I adore the fact he's a real life arsehole. I'm extremely glad it's not all an act.


Ignore Karl he's just stealing posts from Mumsnet.


I tried to watch Stewart Lee but had to stop due to him being gooseberry fool. He addressed an insular cadre of socially challenged, prematurely middle-aged, pseudo-intellectual men, I thought.


Well gooseberry fool.

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PostRe: Brexit
by That » Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:09 pm

I do see where you're coming from though, Stew puts a lot of himself into his stage act and I think without that it would be less endearing.

Endearing for socially challenged, prematurely middle-aged, pseudo-intellectual men like us, anyway.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Squinty » Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:15 pm

Somewhat Brexit related.



That was pretty painful.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Moggy » Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:36 pm

First they stop the foreigners, then they stop the northerners. :lol:

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PostRe: Brexit
by Lex-Man » Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:45 pm

Moggy wrote:First they stop the foreigners, then they stop the northerners. :lol:

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Friend of yours Moggy?

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PostRe: Brexit
by Squinty » Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:48 pm

'I think it's a fair enough idea'

How? Where's the staff to do this? My sister in law is a GP. She does 12 hour days and is basically fit for nothing when she goes home on weeknights.

strawberry float sake.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Lex-Man » Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:52 pm

Squinty wrote:'I think it's a fair enough idea'

How? Where's the staff to do this? My sister in law is a GP. She does 12 hour days and is basically fit for nothing when she goes home on weeknights.

strawberry float sake.


I think the idea is to further exploit junior GP's.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Lex-Man » Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:10 pm

Apperently, we're going to need a shed load more tax inspectors if we go full brexit.

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/ec ... ould-need-£450m-and-5000-extra-staff-case-‘no-deal’-brexit

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PostRe: Brexit
by DML » Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:34 am

lex-man wrote:Apperently, we're going to need a shed load more tax inspectors if we go full brexit.

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/ec ... ould-need-£450m-and-5000-extra-staff-case-‘no-deal’-brexit


You'd have to be a strawberry floating moron to believe all these reports coming out at this point are 'scaremongering lefties'.

You might as well believe the moon is made of cheese.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Squinty » Thu Oct 26, 2017 6:54 am

lex-man wrote:Apperently, we're going to need a shed load more tax inspectors if we go full brexit.

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/ec ... ould-need-£450m-and-5000-extra-staff-case-‘no-deal’-brexit


I would be interested to know exactly how much this is going to cost. Not just the exit bill, whatever it may be, but infrastructure changes. I'd imagine a lot of money would be needed besides that.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Errkal » Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:14 am

Squinty wrote:
lex-man wrote:Apperently, we're going to need a shed load more tax inspectors if we go full brexit.

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/ec ... ould-need-£450m-and-5000-extra-staff-case-‘no-deal’-brexit


I would be interested to know exactly how much this is going to cost. Not just the exit bill, whatever it may be, but infrastructure changes. I'd imagine a lot of money would be needed besides that.

Not just the money but the time to building infrastructure at borders like Dover where it already mega cramped and airports etc as well as finding physical space for such things.

I imagine with planning, design, build etc it would take friggin ages before we have a chance of actually controlling anything coming through.

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PostRe: Brexit
by Rex Kramer » Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:28 am

Article 50 shouldn't have been invoked until all that planning had been done. The sheer lack of understanding by those in government has amazed me. You would expect those in the civil service to know just how long it takes to actually get stuff done.


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