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Thought it was a bizarre overreaction by the Wakandans how they almost immediately ignored the guy they came for and then basically tried to murder everyone else in the room?

Final shot was great, can't think of another time in the MCU they've showed any amount of blood like that.

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By the end of the series, does anyone expect them to debut Eli ‘Patriot’ Bradley? I assume that was the character that answered the door in episode 2/3?

Could be that every series introduces another Young Avenger

Is this scheduled for multiple series or is it a one shot and done like Wandavision? If it's multiple then I think the above storyline alongside Isaiah is season 2 after Falcon becomes Cap.

I'm not sure if they have plans for multiple series - they may want the flexibility of not committing to that so they can adjust with the flow of the wider MCU going forward.

I think these Disney+ series will basically show up whenever they have something specific they want to achieve that fits better as a short series than as a movie.

Also, we're all thinking that Sharon is the Power Broker right? Or at least if not she's definitely dodgy in one way or another!

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Jenuall wrote:Also, we're all thinking that Sharon is the Power Broker right? Or at least if not she's definitely dodgy in one way or another!

Yeah, I think that's what it's leading to and I've been arguing over this with mates since episode 3 because they disagree with their main argument is she led them to the scientist and let them kill him so it doesn't make sense. That's the only thing making me question it because everything else seems to be hinting at it.

Jenuall wrote:
Also, we're all thinking that Sharon is the Power Broker right? Or at least if not she's definitely dodgy in one way or another!

I thought that was going to be the end of episode 3 reveal but then it didn't happen. Given Sharon clearly has people working for her and Karli never uses the Power Broker's gender when talking about them makes it seem increasingly likely. It's not much of a twist though.

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Yeah I can see the arguments against it, but I don't think killing the scientist is the end of it - the serum was working so the Power Broker probably had everything they needed from him by this point and if anything them killing him was probably a nice way of wrapping it up without getting involved directly

Jenuall wrote:Yeah I can see the arguments against it, but I don't think killing the scientist is the end of it - the serum was working so the Power Broker probably had everything they needed from him by this point and if anything them killing him was probably a nice way of wrapping it up without getting involved directly

She didn't know Zemo was going to kill him. It's not really a surprise he would though, given no superheroes is his entire motivation.

Jenuall wrote:Yeah I can see the arguments against it, but I don't think killing the scientist is the end of it - the serum was working so the Power Broker probably had everything they needed from him by this point and if anything them killing him was probably a nice way of wrapping it up without getting involved directly

Isn't the Power Broker now out of serum and trying to get back what the Flag Smashers stole?

Memento Mori wrote:
Jenuall wrote:Yeah I can see the arguments against it, but I don't think killing the scientist is the end of it - the serum was working so the Power Broker probably had everything they needed from him by this point and if anything them killing him was probably a nice way of wrapping it up without getting involved directly

She didn't know Zemo was going to kill him. It's not really a surprise he would though, given no superheroes is his entire motivation.

Yeah it may not have been what she was expecting, but like you say it's hardly that much of a surprise!

Tomous wrote:
Jenuall wrote:Yeah I can see the arguments against it, but I don't think killing the scientist is the end of it - the serum was working so the Power Broker probably had everything they needed from him by this point and if anything them killing him was probably a nice way of wrapping it up without getting involved directly

Isn't the Power Broker now out of serum and trying to get back what the Flag Smashers stole?

That's how it is being shown from the smashers perspective, but I imagine there is more to it than that. Multiple people have now worked on and successfully developed the serum, if the PB has the data from it now I doubt they're actually in a position where they couldn't reproduce it if necessary. My take is more that they wanted the smashers out of the picture - having super soldiers at your command is infinitely better if you have the ONLY super soldiers so a random group running around with it isn't ideal

I’m still convinced that it will be revealed that Zemo was the Power Broker all along and everything has been part of his plan

Zemo has definitely been playing the others to a certain extent, I'm interested to see how that side progresses

ITSMILNER wrote:I’m still convinced that it will be revealed that Zemo was the Power Broker all along and everything has been part of his plan

I thought Sharon was the Power Broker?

Alvin Flummux wrote:
ITSMILNER wrote:I’m still convinced that it will be revealed that Zemo was the Power Broker all along and everything has been part of his plan

I thought Sharon was the Power Broker?

I think it’s a swerve :shifty:

ITSMILNER wrote:I’m still convinced that it will be revealed that Zemo was the Power Broker all along and everything has been part of his plan

How can it be Zemo if he's been in prison the whole time? He definitely seems to have a presence in Madripoor

Tomous wrote:
ITSMILNER wrote:I’m still convinced that it will be revealed that Zemo was the Power Broker all along and everything has been part of his plan

How can it be Zemo if he's been in prison the whole time?

Marvel magic!

It was ~~Agatha~~ Zemo all along.

The power broker was the friends they made along the way

Corazon de Leon

Tomous wrote:
ITSMILNER wrote:I’m still convinced that it will be revealed that Zemo was the Power Broker all along and everything has been part of his plan

How can it be Zemo if he's been in prison the whole time? He definitely seems to have a presence in Madripoor

There's also a chance we won't find out who the Power Broker is, but I'll feel a bit short-changed if that ends up being the case.

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