The Falcon and The Winter Soldier | Disney+ | 1st Episode OUT NOW

Zilnad wrote:I can empathise with them, definitely. It's like how today we all want to continue to work from home but the government and corporations want us to go back to commuting into busy towns

So:

Falcon = Rishi Sunak
Winter Soldier = Alan Sugar

Alvin Flummux wrote:I don't know much about the comics and source material but it feels like Karli Morgenthau is kind of a stand-in for Greta Thunberg (and the same actor played Enfys Nest in Rogue One, who seemed to be doing similar things) and I absolutely do not hate the Flag Smashers' anti-nation, pro-unified humanity agenda.

The Black Death upended European society and enabled a restructuring that enabled the renaissance, enlightenment and everything that followed. Clearly the Blip was having a similar effect and there are people who hate that powerful nationalistic forces are trying to force societal development backward.

we still dont know what their plan is. we know their end goal but not how theyre gonna do it

Corazon de Leon wrote:I'm getting real Dr. Faustus vibes from the psychiatrist dealing with Bucky. I know there was a version in Agents of Shield but I feel like they're sacking off the canon from that show.

He was in Agent Carter season 1, arrested in that show and was assassinated by The Winter Soldier in this shows season, during the episode 1 flashback.

BID0 wrote:

Corazon de Leon wrote:I'm getting real Dr. Faustus vibes from the psychiatrist dealing with Bucky. I know there was a version in Agents of Shield but I feel like they're sacking off the canon from that show.

He was in Agent Carter season 1, arrested in that show and was assassinated by The Winter Soldier in this shows season, during the episode 1 flashback.

Oh so they actually showed TWS assassinating that character? I'm gonna go ahead and say that it's absolutely nailed on that she's his daughter then.

Corazon de Leon wrote:

BID0 wrote:

Corazon de Leon wrote:I'm getting real Dr. Faustus vibes from the psychiatrist dealing with Bucky. I know there was a version in Agents of Shield but I feel like they're sacking off the canon from that show.

He was in Agent Carter season 1, arrested in that show and was assassinated by The Winter Soldier in this shows season, during the episode 1 flashback.

Oh so they actually showed TWS assassinating that character? I'm gonna go ahead and say that it's absolutely nailed on that she's his daughter then.

It was the same actor (Ralph Brown I think his name is?) but he wasn’t in the credits for episode 1 so it’s unknown if it’s the same character although it would be a massive weird coincidence getting that actor in to play a bit part with his connections to TWS

That flashback wasn’t dated either so it leaves it open

BID0 wrote:

Corazon de Leon wrote:

BID0 wrote:

Corazon de Leon wrote:I'm getting real Dr. Faustus vibes from the psychiatrist dealing with Bucky. I know there was a version in Agents of Shield but I feel like they're sacking off the canon from that show.

He was in Agent Carter season 1, arrested in that show and was assassinated by The Winter Soldier in this shows season, during the episode 1 flashback.

Oh so they actually showed TWS assassinating that character? I'm gonna go ahead and say that it's absolutely nailed on that she's his daughter then.

It was the same actor (Ralph Brown I think his name is?) but he wasn’t in the credits for episode 1 so it’s unknown if it’s the same character although it would be a massive weird coincidence getting that actor in to play a bit part with his connections to TWS

That flashback wasn’t dated either so it leaves it open

And they have no recent history with weird coincidental castings that end up meaningless...

Can we not just make this a spoiler thread?

Captain Kinopio wrote:Can we not just make this a spoiler thread?

100% agree. I’m not sure why you would come in here if you hadn’t watched the latest episode?

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:

Captain Kinopio wrote:Can we not just make this a spoiler thread?

100% agree. I’m not sure why you would come in here if you hadn’t watched the latest episode?

Yeah makes sense. Discussion of rumours/trailers should be spoilered, but once the episode is out then we should be free to post about it.

I concur

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:

Captain Kinopio wrote:Can we not just make this a spoiler thread?

100% agree. I’m not sure why you would come in here if you hadn’t watched the latest episode?

you forgot a new episode was out and came here expecting talk about the last one?

BID0 wrote:

Corazon de Leon wrote:

BID0 wrote:

Corazon de Leon wrote:I'm getting real Dr. Faustus vibes from the psychiatrist dealing with Bucky. I know there was a version in Agents of Shield but I feel like they're sacking off the canon from that show.

He was in Agent Carter season 1, arrested in that show and was assassinated by The Winter Soldier in this shows season, during the episode 1 flashback.

Oh so they actually showed TWS assassinating that character? I'm gonna go ahead and say that it's absolutely nailed on that she's his daughter then.

It was the same actor (Ralph Brown I think his name is?) but he wasn’t in the credits for episode 1 so it’s unknown if it’s the same character although it would be a massive weird coincidence getting that actor in to play a bit part with his connections to TWS

That flashback wasn’t dated either so it leaves it open

I guess in this show more than anything else it would make a lot of sense to try and tie some of it to Agent Carter. Not least because some of the revelations from the latest episode could really cast Peggy Carter in an awful light as Shield Director in the 1940s and 50s.

shy guy 64 wrote:

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:

Captain Kinopio wrote:Can we not just make this a spoiler thread?

100% agree. I’m not sure why you would come in here if you hadn’t watched the latest episode?

you forgot a new episode was out and came here expecting talk about the last one?

Eh?

Edit. Sorry I get ya, you were thinking of a scenario where someone may get spoiled by mistake

Can’t say i have been amazed so far. Personally hoping it gets better.

Haven't seen this posted here but thought it was a fun little ad.

Thinking back on the last episode and having read this article - https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat- ... inal-sin?l means I'd be all in on them going down this route. Not sure they will though.

I think it would be great if they went all in on something like that.

They have such an established footing with their franchise now, there's no reason why they shouldn't be pushing boundaries.

1x03- Very good episode, I especially liked the development of Zemo. He's a lot better here than Civil War, I think that's partially because he barely interacted with any other characters in Civil War. It seemed like it was leading to a reveal that Sharon was MCU Power Broker.

Was it just me or was that prison break Zemo made ridiculously easy?

I watched the first episode and thought it was very average to be honest. I mean, it was passable but so much of it was cliche - there were numerous times where I said the line out loud before the character did.