The Football Thread 2018-19 - FA Cup 5th Round Weekend

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2018-19 - Matchday 26 - Pensioners Get Battered
by Rocsteady » Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:02 pm

Bloody hell that's high. Never heard any racism at a Hibs game I don't think.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2018-19 - Matchday 26 - Pensioners Get Battered
by BOR » Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:33 pm

Aaron Ramsey has signed a four year deal with Juventus at £400k a week! :dread:

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2018-19 - Matchday 26 - Pensioners Get Battered
by Cuttooth » Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:38 pm

BOR wrote:Aaron Ramsey has signed a four year deal with Juventus at £400k a week! :dread:

Good for him.

EDIT - Wait that sounds like I'm bitter. :slol:

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by PES Fan » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:08 pm

PsychicSykes wrote:I'm gonna have to disagree with most of that.

Kante won the league twice playing as a central midfielder and I think putting him in a holding role neuters his best attributes in pressing intelligently and winning the ball back. I think Jorginho's a very good player who like Hazard is being somewhat hamstrung by the lack of quality in front of him. In a defensive sense his stats are pretty similar to Fernandinho, which would explain Guardiola's interest in him previously. I strongly disagree with the idea Luiz should be dropped for Christensen. From what I saw yesterday nobody in a Chelsea shirt covered themselves in glory defensively, but a few games back Chelsea's defence had conceded nearly as few goals as Man City. Given how City can absolutely blow teams away I'm inclined to just wait and see if this defensive trend continues rather than make a snap judgement.

Except on Marcus Alonso, who is absolutely stealing a living. Obviously.


I’m not sure about Jorginho. His passing stats look nice, but it’s all sidewards and backwards. It’s not really hurting anyone. Even Bournemouth were happy for Chelsea to have the ball and Howe said to his players at half time not to worry if they don’t have the ball. Jorginho also has not covered himself in glory when he’s been asked to defend at times. He looked ok when Chelsea had that little run early on in the season. But since teams have realised all they need to do is put a man on him to pressure him he hasn’t coped well. The best playmaker DMs like Busquets, Alonso, Pirlo etc bypassed that easily whenever teams decided to try and stop them.

I would have rather City signed him than someone like Neves. Neves is just a more complete footballer for me. He’s always looking to pass forward. Has a good set piece delivery and a great strike on him. Defensively is better, he has better mobility than Jorginho and is more imposing. Yeah Pep wanted him, but he also apparently wanted Fred. So they dodged two bullets there.

I disagree about Kante. For France in the summer he was the deepest of the midfielders. Chelsea players over the last two years have played in a back five and under a more defensive manager. So if they going to play more attacking football they going to require more defensive protection especially the fullbacks. In a back five when they go forward one of the wide centre backs would cover. But in a back four, one of the midfielders would probably have to cover. Kante would be a better fit covering the fullback especially Alonso than Jorginho.

Kante won the league with two teams that didn’t really care about possession. They had a totally different style to this Chelsea team. It was more getting the ball fast as possible to the attackers. This season he looks uncomfortable not because he’s been asked to play in a team that dominates most of the possession. But he’s been asked to play as one of the furthest midfielders in a team that dominates possession. For me if he’s going to be in a team that wants to dominate possession then he has to be the deepest midfielder because he’s not going to hurt opponents going forward. Yeah he does a good job pressing whenever he does get forward, but Chelsea keep the ball more this year so he doesn’t need to be pressing that high.

City are capable of doing that to anybody. But they were just as toothless at Bournemouth and Arsenal away. They didn’t look like scoring in any of those games too and defensively were all over the place. So this wasn’t a one off performance. They looked decent at home. But away from home they have big issues both ways.

I just don’t trust Luiz. He was frozen out last year by Conte because he was a liability early on in the season. He’s going to be 32 in April. You have a defender who is 10 years younger and was decent last year in Christensen. Why not put some faith in him? Whenever I watched Christensen last year he was pretty solid. At times especially in big games he got a bit nervous especially with his passing but that’s what you’d get at times with a young defender. Luiz is probably going to make more mistakes than him in a season anyway despite being more experienced.

It’s the same with Hudson Odoi. Why not use him? It’s not like Pedro or Willian are providing assists or goals. They providing nothing at the moment. Sometimes a young player can provide a spark to a team because they play with no fear. There has to be something about him that Bayern think he is the man they want to replace Ribery/Robben. That’s the issue with Chelsea. They have all these young players and probably one of the best youth teams in the country, but barely use the players from there or bring anybody through.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2018-19 - Matchday 26 - Pensioners Get Battered
by PES Fan » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:17 pm

BOR wrote:Aaron Ramsey has signed a four year deal with Juventus at £400k a week! :dread:


To be fair those wages probably include the signing on fee. Rather than giving him a big signing on fee when he signs they included that in the base wage.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2018-19 - Matchday 26 - Pensioners Get Battered
by Irene Demova » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:25 pm

Spurs aren't getting their cheese room :'(

At this point we have to ask if the new stadium was really worth it

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2018-19 - Matchday 26 - Pensioners Get Battered
by Cuttooth » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:27 pm

Irene Demova wrote:Spurs aren't getting their cheese room :'(

At this point we have to ask if the new stadium was really worth it

The Deli Alley is still safe though, right?!

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2018-19 - Matchday 26 - Pensioners Get Battered
by Saint of Killers » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:59 pm

The greatest subheading (if that's what it is) ever:

• Club say there were no plans for cheese room in the first place


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PostRe: The Football Thread 2018-19 - MNU vs PSG TONIGHT 8PM
by Preezy » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:25 am

I personally think it's quite cool to see a British player join up with an absolute giant of a club in Juventus, fair play to him for escaping the comfort blanket of Arsenal. Obviously mega wages always help, but hopefully this is the first* of many more high-profile exports to the other top European leagues.


*I know Jadon Sancho is tearing up the Bundesliga, but he was an unknown when he left.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2018-19 - MNU vs PSG TONIGHT 8PM
by Parksey » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:52 am

Gordon Banks has passed away apparently.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2018-19 - MNU vs PSG TONIGHT 8PM
by Denster » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:08 am

A legend. RIP.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2018-19 - MNU vs PSG TONIGHT 8PM
by Denster » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:17 am

Pele on that save in the 1970 world cup
Apparently he shouted "goal" as he was sure it was going in.

Pele was left dumbfounded. "I could not believe what I saw," he said. "At that moment, I hated Banks more than any man in football. When I cooled down, I could only applaud him in my heart. It was the greatest save I have ever seen."

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2018-19 - MNU vs PSG TONIGHT 8PM
by Rex Kramer » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:32 am

Brilliant save by Banks as that header was perfect. The pass from Carlos Alberto though :shock: strawberry floating glorious

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2018-19 - MNU vs PSG TONIGHT 8PM
by Fuzzy Dunlop » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:29 pm

Never knighted. What a travesty!

An absolute legend of a man and a footballer.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2018-19 - MNU vs PSG TONIGHT 8PM
by Blue Eyes » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:25 pm

Solskjaer out.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2018-19 - MNU vs PSG TONIGHT 8PM
by Preezy » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:26 pm

Well this is disappointing.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2018-19 - MNU vs PSG TONIGHT 8PM
by SandyCoin » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:27 pm

Completely outplayed tonight. Poor decision making and the only thing of note we've done is foul.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2018-19 - MNU vs PSG TONIGHT 8PM
by Dowbocop » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:31 pm

Did Di Maria leave OT on particularly bad terms? I know he wasn't good for United but he seems to be copping a lot of stick.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2018-19 - MNU vs PSG TONIGHT 8PM
by PurplePenguin » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:33 pm

Gulf in class. Have we had a shot on goal? PSG have been spot on tonight.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2018-19 - Matchday 26 - Pensioners Get Battered
by Corazon de Leon » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:45 pm

Rocsteady wrote:Bloody hell that's high. Never heard any racism at a Hibs game I don't think.


I haven't at Celtic Park*, but you'd better believe I have at Ewood.

*I will addend this by saying I've seen Shay Logan booed by a minority of fans, apparently as a result of reporting the racism of that tosser we had on loan from Villa. I suppose that isn't specifically racist in and of itself, but may as well be.

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