Return_of_the_STAR wrote:Drumstick wrote:Return_of_the_STAR wrote:Personally I think Yid does not have as negative a background behind it as the other words mentioned.
With respect, your opinion is irrelevant to a degree. If there's Jews out there that do find it offense, the terms should cease to be used.
That’s a very vague statement. How far do you go with who finds what offensive? We are reaching the point where we soon won’t be able to use many slang words.
I agree my opinion is irrelevant which is why I pointed out that I don’t use the term and don’t think a non Jewish person should. The difficulty here is that a lot of Jewish spurs supporters use it.
Nobody wants to ban slang words. We are talking about racial slurs, not slang.
“Yid” has a long history of being used as a term of abuse against Jewish people. The very reason Spurs use it is as a fight back against the racists.
But for a Jewish fan of a different team, hearing lots of non-Jews chanting “Yid army” isn’t a fight back against racism. Especially when your fellow supporters respond with “strawberry float the Yids, strawberry float the Jews”.
Jewish Tottenham fans are irrelevant to the debate really, the debate is over the use of the word in football as a whole. And overwhelmingly Jewish fans don’t want to hear it.
As Baddiel says, this wouldn’t even be a debate if it was the N word, and there’s no real difference.