The Football Thread 2019/20: UEFA yet again preparing naughty step and stern telling off, that'll learn 'em!

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by Photek » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:09 am

I know it's not 'banned'....semantics man, it's effectively banned.

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by Winckle » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:30 am

I wish I hadn't been the last post on the page, so everyone could easily see what a dope you're being.

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by Saint of Killers » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:41 am

Rex Kramer wrote:

:shock: Not a massive fluke at all.


Bizarrely, it looks less impressive in slow motion :o

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by Drumstick » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:42 am

Rex Kramer wrote:

:shock: Not a massive fluke at all.

That is just disgustingly good.

One man should not have this much power in this game. Luckily I'm not an ordinary man.
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by Photek » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:52 am

That goal For all non UK folk (we get 'its not available in your location' nonsense).


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by Moggy » Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:54 am

Photek wrote:
Dowbocop wrote:Related to the Merseyside rivalry chat from a few days ago, this is a really good idea that shouldn't need to happen.


I always wonder, because The Sun is banned in Liverpool do they have a bit more empathy as a result? I know Liverpool was largely Remain and that’s put down to The Sun being banned.


It’s been suggested that the Sun boycott lead to a Liverpool remain vote and it almost certainly helped. But it’s also not true as plenty of other cities voted Remain without the same boycott of the Sun.

Liverpool was 58.2% Remain but Manchester was 60.4% Remain.

Banning the Sun completely could only help the world though.

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by Preezy » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:15 am

I often grab a drink or snack from the local Morrison's near my office and they have the standard newspaper "cube thing" with the various brands stacked up. I'm quite tempted to buy up all of copies of The Sun that they have and just stick them in the bin. Should I do that? I know I'd be giving The Sun money, but I'd be stopping people being able to buy a copy from there. Which would be the greater good? Dat inner conflict :datass:

I wonder what the store staff would do or say? Are there rules about 1 customer clearing an entire shelf of stock?

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by Moggy » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:17 am

Preezy wrote:I often grab a drink or snack from the local Morrison's near my office and they have the standard newspaper "cube thing" with the various brands stacked up. I'm quite tempted to buy up all of copies of The Sun that they have and just stick them in the bin. Should I do that? I know I'd be giving The Sun money, but I'd be stopping people being able to buy a copy from there. Which would be the greater good? Dat inner conflict :datass:

I wonder what the store staff would do or say? Are there rules about 1 customer clearing an entire shelf of stock?


I wouldn’t buy them, you’ll add to their sales which will increase the amount they charge to advertisers. You’d basically just be making them more powerful.

You’re better off just burning the shop down.

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by Saint of Killers » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:22 am

Preezy wrote:I often grab a drink or snack from the local Morrison's near my office and they have the standard newspaper "cube thing" with the various brands stacked up. I'm quite tempted to buy up all of copies of The Sun that they have and just stick them in the bin. Should I do that? I know I'd be giving The Sun money, but I'd be stopping people being able to buy a copy from there. Which would be the greater good? Dat inner conflict :datass:

I wonder what the store staff would do or say? Are there rules about 1 customer clearing an entire shelf of stock?


They get paid - they couldn't give a strawberry float. What you're better off doing: make a sign saying shame on you for buying The Sun and stick it atop the pile of papers.
Always depresses the strawberry float out of me when I see how many copies of The Sun get delivered on a Saturday at my local supermarket compared to the other papers. (Though I wonder if the publishers don't just send far more than needed to give the impression it's that much popular...)

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by Jenuall » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:27 am

I find Sun boycott an interesting situation. I totally understand the reason why they do it, it's 100% justified and the least that rag deserves - ideally everyone would boycott it! But what goal is it intending to achieve?

It definitely sends a message - don't print gooseberry fool and lies in the wake of a hideous tragedy, that's a good message to get out there certainly. But is it supposed to be harming those responsible in some way - surely the writers/editors from the time of Hillsborough are no longer working at the newspaper so it's not targetting them? Also as far as I'm aware there is no boycott of other Murdoch owned media and services in the area? A lot of the people boycotting the paper are probably still giving News UK/Murdoch their cash through buying The Times or subscribing to Sky etc.

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by Moggy » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:32 am

Jenuall wrote:I find Sun boycott an interesting situation. I totally understand the reason why they do it, it's 100% justified and the least that rag deserves - ideally everyone would boycott it! But what goal is it intending to achieve?

It definitely sends a message - don't print gooseberry fool and lies in the wake of a hideous tragedy, that's a good message to get out there certainly. But is it supposed to be harming those responsible in some way - surely the writers/editors from the time of Hillsborough are no longer working at the newspaper so it's not targetting them? Also as far as I'm aware there is no boycott of other Murdoch owned media and services in the area? A lot of the people boycotting the paper are probably still giving News UK/Murdoch their cash through buying The Times or subscribing to Sky etc.


Sky are no longer anything to do with Murdoch.

Boycotting the Sun is just a good deed, it was a scummy piece of gooseberry fool in the 80’s, it’s a scummy piece of gooseberry fool today. If everyone boycotted it then it would achieve the goal of making it no longer exist.

The Times is at least a “proper” newspaper even if it has scummy owners.

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by pjbetman » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:33 am

Mini E wrote:
pjbetman wrote:I dont get it - how are these stories supposed to be private, yet she posts them for followers? I mean, why would she be bothered that the Sun reports on them, when she herself has plastered it over SM to her millions of fans?


I think she means that she felt like Vardy had been a leak for IRL conversations, and used Instagram as a tool to prove her hypothesis. More sleuth-like than I would've given her credit for, to be honest.


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by Preezy » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:33 am

Jenuall wrote:I find Sun boycott an interesting situation. I totally understand the reason why they do it, it's 100% justified and the least that rag deserves - ideally everyone would boycott it! But what goal is it intending to achieve?

To bring back the proper Page 3 girls, obviously.

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by Jenuall » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:40 am

Moggy wrote:
Jenuall wrote:I find Sun boycott an interesting situation. I totally understand the reason why they do it, it's 100% justified and the least that rag deserves - ideally everyone would boycott it! But what goal is it intending to achieve?

It definitely sends a message - don't print gooseberry fool and lies in the wake of a hideous tragedy, that's a good message to get out there certainly. But is it supposed to be harming those responsible in some way - surely the writers/editors from the time of Hillsborough are no longer working at the newspaper so it's not targetting them? Also as far as I'm aware there is no boycott of other Murdoch owned media and services in the area? A lot of the people boycotting the paper are probably still giving News UK/Murdoch their cash through buying The Times or subscribing to Sky etc.


Sky are no longer anything to do with Murdoch.

Boycotting the Sun is just a good deed, it was a scummy piece of gooseberry fool in the 80’s, it’s a scummy piece of gooseberry fool today. If everyone boycotted it then it would achieve the goal of making it no longer exist.

The Times is at least a “proper” newspaper even if it has scummy owners.

Yes as of like 1 year ago Sky has nothing to do with Murdoch, but as far as I'm aware there wasn't a move to boycott it for the 20+ years that it existed before that!

Like I say I agree with the boycott and think The Sun and everyone associated with it deserves to be shot into the actual sun, but it just seems odd to specifically boycott that one paper and yet still effectively fund the "perpetrators" of the problem in other ways.

Also whilst The Times is clearly a far better newspaper it also has a pretty shitty track record when it comes to Hillsborough reporting - they made some real bad statements at the time and were also one of the only two papers that didn't put the 2016 inquest as front page news (no prizes for guessing what the other paper was!)

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by Moggy » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:50 am

Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Jenuall wrote:I find Sun boycott an interesting situation. I totally understand the reason why they do it, it's 100% justified and the least that rag deserves - ideally everyone would boycott it! But what goal is it intending to achieve?

It definitely sends a message - don't print gooseberry fool and lies in the wake of a hideous tragedy, that's a good message to get out there certainly. But is it supposed to be harming those responsible in some way - surely the writers/editors from the time of Hillsborough are no longer working at the newspaper so it's not targetting them? Also as far as I'm aware there is no boycott of other Murdoch owned media and services in the area? A lot of the people boycotting the paper are probably still giving News UK/Murdoch their cash through buying The Times or subscribing to Sky etc.


Sky are no longer anything to do with Murdoch.

Boycotting the Sun is just a good deed, it was a scummy piece of gooseberry fool in the 80’s, it’s a scummy piece of gooseberry fool today. If everyone boycotted it then it would achieve the goal of making it no longer exist.

The Times is at least a “proper” newspaper even if it has scummy owners.

Yes as of like 1 year ago Sky has nothing to do with Murdoch, but as far as I'm aware there wasn't a move to boycott it for the 20+ years that it existed before that!

Like I say I agree with the boycott and think The Sun and everyone associated with it deserves to be shot into the actual sun, but it just seems odd to specifically boycott that one paper and yet still effectively fund the "perpetrators" of the problem in other ways.

Also whilst The Times is clearly a far better newspaper it also has a pretty shitty track record when it comes to Hillsborough reporting - they made some real bad statements at the time and were also one of the only two papers that didn't put the 2016 inquest as front page news (no prizes for guessing what the other paper was!)


I mentioned Sky because you said people were still giving Murdoch money through Sky subscriptions.

I’ve no problem with people boycotting all Murdoch owned businesses. But there’s an obvious reason why the Sun has the most reasons to boycott.

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by Photek » Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:18 pm

Jenuall wrote:I find Sun boycott an interesting situation. I totally understand the reason why they do it, it's 100% justified and the least that rag deserves - ideally everyone would boycott it! But what goal is it intending to achieve?

It definitely sends a message - don't print gooseberry fool and lies in the wake of a hideous tragedy, that's a good message to get out there certainly. But is it supposed to be harming those responsible in some way - surely the writers/editors from the time of Hillsborough are no longer working at the newspaper so it's not targetting them? Also as far as I'm aware there is no boycott of other Murdoch owned media and services in the area? A lot of the people boycotting the paper are probably still giving News UK/Murdoch their cash through buying The Times or subscribing to Sky etc.


So...don't boycott anything ever then?

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by Jenuall » Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:27 pm

Photek wrote:
Jenuall wrote:I find Sun boycott an interesting situation. I totally understand the reason why they do it, it's 100% justified and the least that rag deserves - ideally everyone would boycott it! But what goal is it intending to achieve?

It definitely sends a message - don't print gooseberry fool and lies in the wake of a hideous tragedy, that's a good message to get out there certainly. But is it supposed to be harming those responsible in some way - surely the writers/editors from the time of Hillsborough are no longer working at the newspaper so it's not targetting them? Also as far as I'm aware there is no boycott of other Murdoch owned media and services in the area? A lot of the people boycotting the paper are probably still giving News UK/Murdoch their cash through buying The Times or subscribing to Sky etc.


So...don't boycott anything ever then?

...No? I said that the boycott is a good thing?

Like I say I just find it interesting that the boycott is limited in scope to the one newspaper (as stated the Times printed some real gooseberry fool as well) and that people would still be more than happy to chuck cash at the overarching organisation behind it in other ways.

It's like finding out that Coca Cola is produced in child labor factories and so boycotting that drink, but still going out and drinking every other brand that the Coca Cola Company produces.

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by Benzin » Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:30 pm

Preezy wrote:
Jenuall wrote:I find Sun boycott an interesting situation. I totally understand the reason why they do it, it's 100% justified and the least that rag deserves - ideally everyone would boycott it! But what goal is it intending to achieve?

To bring back the proper Page 3 girls, obviously.


I miss those being the only tits you could find in the news.

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by Photek » Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:41 pm

So...I was reading Media watch on Football 365 and The Sun are running a front page about the row between Rebecca Vardy and Coleen Rooney. Fair enough you may assume but they completely seem to forget that they are the paper Vardy allegedly leaked to.

They mention that Rebecca is looking into IT professionals to prove it's not her and that she might hire social media analysts and all sorts of weird stuff...but...they could just as easily say it's not her...because...they'd know.

I think it's safe to assume Vardy is guilty...? or...The Rag just want to stoke up the fight?

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by KK » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:12 pm

The paper is speaking about itself in the third person in its reporting of this, and using a "Sun Spokesman" for comment instead. No news outlet would out Rebecca Vardy or their sources (even on this nonsense), but it is her, so they can't therefore deny it either.

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