The Football Thread 2020/21: Mods plz lock thnx bbz x

[Tomous]

I still find it utterly galling watching footballs hug and celebrate in these bubbles which are...lets face it...absolute bollocks when I haven't done that with friends and family for eight months.

Are the bubbles bollocks though? I think on a PL level with the level of testing they're undergoing, things are working really well.

Internationals are causing a bigger problem where the "bubble" gets destroyed though. Why they're playing friendlies is beyond me.

[Finiarél]

I still find it utterly galling watching footballs hug and celebrate in these bubbles which are...lets face it...absolute bollocks when I haven't done that with friends and family for eight months.

Score a 30 yard banger and then you can go and see your mate. Simple really.

[Jenuall]

The bubble concept has never really been implemented properly though.

The only way it would have a real chance of working would be if the teams were entirely isolated for the season. Say goodbye to your friends and family because you are living in an enclosed environment with the squad and minimal set of staff required to function. And that's it, nothing else - no parties, no visits from friends, no popping out to a club or even a shop.

The way they do it now there are just far too many contact points and they are far too lax at locking people down when a case does come up. If someone gets a positive then essentially anyone they have played or trained with and against, or otherwise been in contact with should be isolated - but they just aren't doing that.

[Cuttooth]

Wasn't the NBA bubble incredibly successful at keeping coronavirus at bay? Probably the best way of going about it, although that might have all been in one location come to think of it.

[DML]

I still find it utterly galling watching footballs hug and celebrate in these bubbles which are...lets face it...absolute bollocks when I haven't done that with friends and family for eight months.

Are the bubbles bollocks though? I think on a PL level with the level of testing they're undergoing, things are working really well.

Internationals are causing a bigger problem where the "bubble" gets destroyed though. Why they're playing friendlies is beyond me.

I think so. They are playing a contact sport against other bubbles, and the players are going home to see their friends and families, thats not bubbling really in my mind. You are mixing with so many other bubbles it becomes a bit pointless. If it was like the NBA or Strictly and everyone was holed up together and they were playing out fixtures, that would be different, but they aren't. They are jumping on planes and all sorts. I get they are being tested, but they can't be being tested every single day.

[BTB]

Wasn't the NBA bubble incredibly successful at keeping coronavirus at bay? Probably the best way of going about it, although that might have all been in one location come to think of it.

I think it was at one of the Disney Worlds or something

Premier League Alton Towers?

[Tomous]

I still find it utterly galling watching footballs hug and celebrate in these bubbles which are...lets face it...absolute bollocks when I haven't done that with friends and family for eight months.

Are the bubbles bollocks though? I think on a PL level with the level of testing they're undergoing, things are working really well.

Internationals are causing a bigger problem where the "bubble" gets destroyed though. Why they're playing friendlies is beyond me.

I think so. They are playing a contact sport against other bubbles, and the players are going home to see their friends and families, thats not bubbling really in my mind. You are mixing with so many other bubbles it becomes a bit pointless. If it was like the NBA or Strictly and everyone was holed up together and they were playing out fixtures, that would be different, but they aren't. They are jumping on planes and all sorts. I get they are being tested, but they can't be being tested every single day.

But it has been working:

Round 1: 31 Aug-6 Sep - 1,605 tested, with three testing positive.
Round 2: 7-13 Sep - 2,131 tested, with four testing positive.
Round 3: 14-20 Sep - 1,574 tested, with three testing positive.
Round 4: 21-27 Sep - 1,595 tested, with 10 testing positive.
Round 5: 28 Sep-4 Oct - 1,587 tested, with nine testing positive.
Round 6: 5-11 Oct - 1,128 tested, with five testing positive.
Round 7: 12-18 Oct - 1,575 tested, with eight testing positive.
Round 8: 19-25 Oct - 1,609 tested, with two testing positive.
Round 9: 26 Oct-1 Nov - 1,446 tested, with four testing positive.

Obviously if the numbers dramatically increase they will need to re-consider but I think what they've done so far, and the measures they've taken, has worked well.


Edit: and I know much of those results have been against a backdrop of general numbers in the population being down. As those numbers are now increasing it could well make PL football no longer viable under their current methods.

[DML]

I still find it utterly galling watching footballs hug and celebrate in these bubbles which are...lets face it...absolute bollocks when I haven't done that with friends and family for eight months.

Are the bubbles bollocks though? I think on a PL level with the level of testing they're undergoing, things are working really well.

Internationals are causing a bigger problem where the "bubble" gets destroyed though. Why they're playing friendlies is beyond me.

I think so. They are playing a contact sport against other bubbles, and the players are going home to see their friends and families, thats not bubbling really in my mind. You are mixing with so many other bubbles it becomes a bit pointless. If it was like the NBA or Strictly and everyone was holed up together and they were playing out fixtures, that would be different, but they aren't. They are jumping on planes and all sorts. I get they are being tested, but they can't be being tested every single day.

But it has been working:

Round 1: 31 Aug-6 Sep - 1,605 tested, with three testing positive.
Round 2: 7-13 Sep - 2,131 tested, with four testing positive.
Round 3: 14-20 Sep - 1,574 tested, with three testing positive.
Round 4: 21-27 Sep - 1,595 tested, with 10 testing positive.
Round 5: 28 Sep-4 Oct - 1,587 tested, with nine testing positive.
Round 6: 5-11 Oct - 1,128 tested, with five testing positive.
Round 7: 12-18 Oct - 1,575 tested, with eight testing positive.
Round 8: 19-25 Oct - 1,609 tested, with two testing positive.
Round 9: 26 Oct-1 Nov - 1,446 tested, with four testing positive.

Obviously if the numbers dramatically increase they will need to re-consider but I think what they've done so far, and the measures they've taken, has worked well.


Edit: and I know much of those results have been against a backdrop of general numbers in the population being down. As those numbers are now increasing it could well make PL football no longer viable under their current methods.

I don't see them stopping football now. Too much money involved and politically awful for Boris.

[Tomous]

It depends if it becomes a farce with players being out. If that happens, they'll either need to drastically change the restrictions they have in place or put it on pause.

[Jenuall]

Post hoc ergo propter hoc. The cases being, relatively, low doesn't mean the measures are working, they might just have gotten away with it so far

[Tomous]

I guess there's a chance of that but I think after 12 weeks with no serious outbreaks at any club desperate positive cases it's extremely likely the approach they've taken is fit for purpose rather than they've miraculously managed to avoid it through luck.

[<]:^D]

Wasn't the NBA bubble incredibly successful at keeping coronavirus at bay? Probably the best way of going about it, although that might have all been in one location come to think of it.

yeah it was to finish the season - it was incredibly stressful for the players because they were basically isolated from everyone except their teammates and the other teams. would only work in a small period of time - not a whole season.

[Rex Kramer]

Wasn't the NBA bubble incredibly successful at keeping coronavirus at bay? Probably the best way of going about it, although that might have all been in one location come to think of it.

yeah it was to finish the season - it was incredibly stressful for the players because they were basically isolated from everyone except their teammates and the other teams. would only work in a small period of time - not a whole season.

Yeah, it was effectively just the final few games of the regular season and then the playoffs with teams going home as they were eliminated. NHL did the same for the Stanley Cup and I don’t think they had a single positive test. But there's no way you could run it for a season so I've no idea what their plans are for when their regular season kicks back in.

[<]:^D]

ah fair i didnt realise NHL did it too
im amazed the NFL are doing ok - the US is gooseberry fool at coronavrirus but the season seems on track.

[SEP]

Am I to late to congratulate Scotland for reaching the Euros?

[Monkey Man]

Premier League scraps pay-per-view with BBC and Amazon Prime to show matches

The Premier League said all remaining games in November and over the Christmas and New Year period will be shown on existing broadcast services.

How to watch Premier League in November
All times in GMT

Saturday, 21 November

Newcastle v Chelsea (12:30) - BT Sport

Aston Villa v Brighton (15:00) - BT Sport

Tottenham v Manchester City (17:30) - Sky Sports

Manchester United v West Brom (20:00) - BT Sport

Sunday, 22 November

Fulham v Everton (12:00) - BBC One

Sheffield United v West Ham (14:00) - Sky Sports

Leeds v Arsenal (16:30) - Sky Sports

Liverpool v Leicester (19:15) - Sky Sports

Monday, 23 November

Burnley v Crystal Palace (17:30) - Sky Sports

Wolves v Southampton (20:00) - Sky Sports

Friday, 27 November

Crystal Palace v Newcastle (20:00) - Amazon Prime

Saturday, 28 November

Brighton v Liverpool (12:30) - BT Sport

Manchester City v Burnley (15:00) - BT Sport

Everton v Leeds (17:30) - Sky Sports

West Brom v Sheffield United (20:00) - Sky Sports

Sunday, 29 November

Southampton v Manchester United (14:00) - Sky Sports

Chelsea v Tottenham (16:30) - Sky Sports

Arsenal v Wolves (19:15) - Sky Sports

Monday, 30 November

Leicester v Fulham (17:30) - Sky Sports

West Ham v Aston Villa (20:00) - Sky Sports

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54932314

[Rocsteady]

Am I to late to congratulate Scotland for reaching the Euros?

Never too late. I'm hoping to carry these positive feels all through winter.

[Corazon de Leon]

I guess West Ham are the go-to team for bubble creation. They’re forever blowing them.

[Benzin]

strawberry float off with that TV scheduling meaning we play Monday and Friday night

[Lotus]

Salah Klopp must be pissed. Only upside for Liverpool is that it's during an international break, so their PL fixtures perhaps won't be affected.

And the Irish player who tested positive after the England game - I know they say nobody's come into contact with him, but come on, they've been playing a football match together
There's a reason people weren't allowed to do that during the lockdowns, and that's because there's a higher risk of transmission when playing contact sports with others. If anyone else tests positive I bet clubs will be raging, especially as it was an utterly pointless match.

Absolutely shitting myself with excitement at the prospect of Fulham vs Everton on BBC One - so generous with the fixtures to people who aren't paying for Sky or BT