Drumstick wrote:twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/1407214287215550464
Whole thread is worth a read, but this one:
twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/1407216420392480770
twitter.com/migueldelaney/status/1408363244314632194
TonyDA wrote:How could City buy Kane & Grealish and not break the FFP rules?
Kind of a genuine question, even though I’m aware those rules don’t apply to clubs run as playthings by Middle Eastern states nor Russian oligarchs.
Tomous wrote:twitter.com/migueldelaney/status/1408363244314632194
If City sign Kane and Grealish, that'll be the title race over.
TonyDA wrote:How could City buy Kane & Grealish and not break the FFP rules?
Kind of a genuine question, even though I’m aware those rules don’t apply to clubs run as playthings by Middle Eastern states nor Russian oligarchs.
DML wrote:TonyDA wrote:How could City buy Kane & Grealish and not break the FFP rules?
Kind of a genuine question, even though I’m aware those rules don’t apply to clubs run as playthings by Middle Eastern states nor Russian oligarchs.
Because they are bullshit.
I'm still waiting for an actual punishment for trying to breakway.
Dowbocop wrote:DML wrote:TonyDA wrote:How could City buy Kane & Grealish and not break the FFP rules?
Kind of a genuine question, even though I’m aware those rules don’t apply to clubs run as playthings by Middle Eastern states nor Russian oligarchs.
Because they are bullshit.
I'm still waiting for an actual punishment for trying to breakway.
I do think all the English clubs have got away very lightly. I would not have been surprised if we'd all had a deduction either this season or next. I know there was a clause in either the UEFA or PL rules that talked about officially sanctioned competitions but I don't think there was a punishment attached to that, so any sledgehammer punishments would just be rescinded on appeal, causing more embarrassment. I think that's evident with the PL stating that any future transgressions would trigger a thirty point deduction. They would've just done that now if they could've got away with it, but it would just turn into a gigantic legal mess and probably ruin next season's competition by dominating all the headlines (which nobody wants after the last eighteen months).
If it's as easy as it clearly is to evade or reduce punishment for breaking rules in all these flagship initiatives (FFP, tapping up etc), there's no chance of getting a draconian punishment to stick for an offence they hadn't really thought about properly.
DML wrote:Dowbocop wrote:DML wrote:TonyDA wrote:How could City buy Kane & Grealish and not break the FFP rules?
Kind of a genuine question, even though I’m aware those rules don’t apply to clubs run as playthings by Middle Eastern states nor Russian oligarchs.
Because they are bullshit.
I'm still waiting for an actual punishment for trying to breakway.
I do think all the English clubs have got away very lightly. I would not have been surprised if we'd all had a deduction either this season or next. I know there was a clause in either the UEFA or PL rules that talked about officially sanctioned competitions but I don't think there was a punishment attached to that, so any sledgehammer punishments would just be rescinded on appeal, causing more embarrassment. I think that's evident with the PL stating that any future transgressions would trigger a thirty point deduction. They would've just done that now if they could've got away with it, but it would just turn into a gigantic legal mess and probably ruin next season's competition by dominating all the headlines (which nobody wants after the last eighteen months).
If it's as easy as it clearly is to evade or reduce punishment for breaking rules in all these flagship initiatives (FFP, tapping up etc), there's no chance of getting a draconian punishment to stick for an offence they hadn't really thought about properly.
I'm just strawberry floating desperate for them to call their bluff. Where are they gonna go? Go into complete uncertainty or take the 1-2 season knockback of a points deduction/transfer embargo? It can't be one rule and one rule for another. I saw my team go down three divisions, and we didn't try and tear the entire fabric of football apart.
DML wrote:Dowbocop wrote:DML wrote:TonyDA wrote:How could City buy Kane & Grealish and not break the FFP rules?
Kind of a genuine question, even though I’m aware those rules don’t apply to clubs run as playthings by Middle Eastern states nor Russian oligarchs.
Because they are bullshit.
I'm still waiting for an actual punishment for trying to breakway.
I do think all the English clubs have got away very lightly. I would not have been surprised if we'd all had a deduction either this season or next. I know there was a clause in either the UEFA or PL rules that talked about officially sanctioned competitions but I don't think there was a punishment attached to that, so any sledgehammer punishments would just be rescinded on appeal, causing more embarrassment. I think that's evident with the PL stating that any future transgressions would trigger a thirty point deduction. They would've just done that now if they could've got away with it, but it would just turn into a gigantic legal mess and probably ruin next season's competition by dominating all the headlines (which nobody wants after the last eighteen months).
If it's as easy as it clearly is to evade or reduce punishment for breaking rules in all these flagship initiatives (FFP, tapping up etc), there's no chance of getting a draconian punishment to stick for an offence they hadn't really thought about properly.
I'm just strawberry floating desperate for them to call their bluff. Where are they gonna go? Go into complete uncertainty or take the 1-2 season knockback of a points deduction/transfer embargo? It can't be one rule and one rule for another. I saw my team go down three divisions, and we didn't try and tear the entire fabric of football apart.
Dowbocop wrote:DML wrote:Dowbocop wrote:DML wrote:TonyDA wrote:How could City buy Kane & Grealish and not break the FFP rules?
Kind of a genuine question, even though I’m aware those rules don’t apply to clubs run as playthings by Middle Eastern states nor Russian oligarchs.
Because they are bullshit.
I'm still waiting for an actual punishment for trying to breakway.
I do think all the English clubs have got away very lightly. I would not have been surprised if we'd all had a deduction either this season or next. I know there was a clause in either the UEFA or PL rules that talked about officially sanctioned competitions but I don't think there was a punishment attached to that, so any sledgehammer punishments would just be rescinded on appeal, causing more embarrassment. I think that's evident with the PL stating that any future transgressions would trigger a thirty point deduction. They would've just done that now if they could've got away with it, but it would just turn into a gigantic legal mess and probably ruin next season's competition by dominating all the headlines (which nobody wants after the last eighteen months).
If it's as easy as it clearly is to evade or reduce punishment for breaking rules in all these flagship initiatives (FFP, tapping up etc), there's no chance of getting a draconian punishment to stick for an offence they hadn't really thought about properly.
I'm just strawberry floating desperate for them to call their bluff. Where are they gonna go? Go into complete uncertainty or take the 1-2 season knockback of a points deduction/transfer embargo? It can't be one rule and one rule for another. I saw my team go down three divisions, and we didn't try and tear the entire fabric of football apart.
But it's not one rule for some and one for another: there wasn't a rule until some clubs took the piss this season, just like there wasn't a rule for adminstration triggering a ten point penalty until teams started taking the piss and flipping out of debts. It's all very well calling a bluff, but if the punishments won't stick then what's the point?
Dowbocop wrote:DML wrote:Dowbocop wrote:DML wrote:TonyDA wrote:How could City buy Kane & Grealish and not break the FFP rules?
Kind of a genuine question, even though I’m aware those rules don’t apply to clubs run as playthings by Middle Eastern states nor Russian oligarchs.
Because they are bullshit.
I'm still waiting for an actual punishment for trying to breakway.
I do think all the English clubs have got away very lightly. I would not have been surprised if we'd all had a deduction either this season or next. I know there was a clause in either the UEFA or PL rules that talked about officially sanctioned competitions but I don't think there was a punishment attached to that, so any sledgehammer punishments would just be rescinded on appeal, causing more embarrassment. I think that's evident with the PL stating that any future transgressions would trigger a thirty point deduction. They would've just done that now if they could've got away with it, but it would just turn into a gigantic legal mess and probably ruin next season's competition by dominating all the headlines (which nobody wants after the last eighteen months).
If it's as easy as it clearly is to evade or reduce punishment for breaking rules in all these flagship initiatives (FFP, tapping up etc), there's no chance of getting a draconian punishment to stick for an offence they hadn't really thought about properly.
I'm just strawberry floating desperate for them to call their bluff. Where are they gonna go? Go into complete uncertainty or take the 1-2 season knockback of a points deduction/transfer embargo? It can't be one rule and one rule for another. I saw my team go down three divisions, and we didn't try and tear the entire fabric of football apart.
But it's not one rule for some and one for another: there wasn't a rule until some clubs took the piss this season, just like there wasn't a rule for adminstration triggering a ten point penalty until teams started taking the piss and flipping out of debts. It's all very well calling a bluff, but if the punishments won't stick then what's the point?
Except with the prior written approval of the board, during the season a club shall not enter or play its senior men’s first team in any competition other than
L.9.1 – The UEFA Champions League
L.9.2 – The UEFA Europa League
L.9.3 – The FA Cup
L.9.4 – The FA Community Shield
L.9.5 – The Football League Cup or
L.9.6 – Competitions sanctioned by the County Association of which it is a member.”
Tomous wrote:Dowbocop wrote:DML wrote:Dowbocop wrote:DML wrote:TonyDA wrote:How could City buy Kane & Grealish and not break the FFP rules?
Kind of a genuine question, even though I’m aware those rules don’t apply to clubs run as playthings by Middle Eastern states nor Russian oligarchs.
Because they are bullshit.
I'm still waiting for an actual punishment for trying to breakway.
I do think all the English clubs have got away very lightly. I would not have been surprised if we'd all had a deduction either this season or next. I know there was a clause in either the UEFA or PL rules that talked about officially sanctioned competitions but I don't think there was a punishment attached to that, so any sledgehammer punishments would just be rescinded on appeal, causing more embarrassment. I think that's evident with the PL stating that any future transgressions would trigger a thirty point deduction. They would've just done that now if they could've got away with it, but it would just turn into a gigantic legal mess and probably ruin next season's competition by dominating all the headlines (which nobody wants after the last eighteen months).
If it's as easy as it clearly is to evade or reduce punishment for breaking rules in all these flagship initiatives (FFP, tapping up etc), there's no chance of getting a draconian punishment to stick for an offence they hadn't really thought about properly.
This
I'm just strawberry floating desperate for them to call their bluff. Where are they gonna go? Go into complete uncertainty or take the 1-2 season knockback of a points deduction/transfer embargo? It can't be one rule and one rule for another. I saw my team go down three divisions, and we didn't try and tear the entire fabric of football apart.
But it's not one rule for some and one for another: there wasn't a rule until some clubs took the piss this season, just like there wasn't a rule for adminstration triggering a ten point penalty until teams started taking the piss and flipping out of debts. It's all very well calling a bluff, but if the punishments won't stick then what's the point?
There was a rule:Except with the prior written approval of the board, during the season a club shall not enter or play its senior men’s first team in any competition other than
L.9.1 – The UEFA Champions League
L.9.2 – The UEFA Europa League
L.9.3 – The FA Cup
L.9.4 – The FA Community Shield
L.9.5 – The Football League Cup or
L.9.6 – Competitions sanctioned by the County Association of which it is a member.”