The Football Thread 2022/23: End of season reviews pg79

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2022/23: United transfer circus rolls into town :dread:
by Captain Kinopio » Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:27 pm

Careful with the praise of Despots, Murderers and War Criminals there Gary Neville.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2022/23: United transfer circus rolls into town :dread:
by Rocsteady » Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:55 pm

Lotus wrote:What's going on with the badge on Everton's away kit? :dread:

Villa still looking pretty bad, but somehow winning. McGinn's so bad, why on earth did we make him captain :dread: :fp:

How dare you

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2022/23: United transfer circus rolls into town :dread:
by Rocsteady » Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:55 pm

jawa_ wrote:I just have a feeling that Man United could still get back into this; maybe not 4-4 but 4-3. I look at their team line-up and think "they've got some good players on paper"... they kinda have to step up in the second half.

Understatement of the century :lol:

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2022/23: United transfer circus rolls into town :dread:
by jawa_ » Sat Aug 13, 2022 9:01 pm

Rocsteady wrote:
jawa_ wrote:... they kinda have to step up in the second half.

Understatement of the century :lol:

Called it. 0-0 in the second half 8-) .

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2022/23: United royally sh!t the bed at Brentford
by Preezy » Sat Aug 13, 2022 9:03 pm

Thoroughly depressing, feels like the club is just in a death spiral at the moment. Hope the fans protest the strawberry float out of the Glazers against Liverpool next week.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2022/23: United transfer circus rolls into town :dread:
by Parksey » Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:56 pm

DML wrote:One of the major fallacies in Britain is that a foreign coach will just come in and change everything. Up there with posh people are intelligent.


To be fair, this is a pretty vapid statement.

The first coach United appointed after Fergie was Scottish. He failed and was sacked. They have had foreign coaches since then. Who have failed and been sacked.

Ten Hag was not a case of them thinking, "I know, this foreign coach will solve all our problems". Were either of the first two defeats attributable to having a coach born outside of England?

As a kid growing up the 90s and having everyone in my town bolt on to Untied for obvious reasons, I am not having the same crisis of confidence as Cuttooth had last week about feeling sorry for United, but not sure your statement stands up to even the flimsiest scrutiny.

I'm not sure the nationality of the Head Coach in the job at United has had much bearing on anything. When Brentford's fourth goal went in tonight, did fans clasp their hands and think, "it was the hospital our coach was born in what done it"?

Also the coach who beat United tonight was Danish.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2022/23: United transfer circus rolls into town :dread:
by Photek » Sun Aug 14, 2022 2:23 am

DML wrote:One of the major fallacies in Britain is that a foreign coach will just come in and change everything.

Sometimes it works tho…

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2022/23: United transfer circus rolls into town :dread:
by DML » Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:48 am

Photek wrote:
DML wrote:One of the major fallacies in Britain is that a foreign coach will just come in and change everything.

Sometimes it works tho…


Of course. I just know a lot of United fans and not one even questioned the idea that he might not turn them around. If Howe or Potter took over (maybe bad examples but you get the idea), it'd be doubt central I reckon.

Can't believe three or four nanagers on and they are still playing McTominay.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2022/23: United royally sh!t the bed at Brentford
by Captain Kinopio » Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:28 am

The interviewer was pretty brutal with Ten Hag after the game yesterday, he didn't cover himself in glory but it wasn't clear if the language was a problem.

I wonder what Utd would do if he lost 4/5/6 in a row.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2022/23: United transfer circus rolls into town :dread:
by Cuttooth » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:26 am

Parksey wrote:As a kid growing up the 90s and having everyone in my town bolt on to Untied for obvious reasons, I am not having the same crisis of confidence as Cuttooth had last week about feeling sorry for United, but not sure your statement stands up to even the flimsiest scrutiny.

Don't worry, I'm back to finding this all incredibly funny. I want to see them flirt with a relegation fight. I want Ronaldo to line up a free kick that will ensure the club's safety but it hits the wall like all his free kicks. I want to see Big Sam in the Old Trafford dugout.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2022/23: United royally sh!t the bed at Brentford
by Jenuall » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:38 am

twitter.com/ianiansymes/status/1558518826131660800


:lol:

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2022/23: United royally sh!t the bed at Brentford
by Cuttooth » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:54 am

Jenuall wrote:

twitter.com/ianiansymes/status/1558518826131660800


:lol:

A better version:

twitter.com/jonawils/status/1558521344819593216


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PostRe: The Football Thread 2022/23: United royally sh!t the bed at Brentford
by BOR » Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:04 am

As an United fan for over 30 years, I wouldn't want to see ten Hag to get the sack and it won't work to get a new manager. I have had enough of this situation and the main thing we need to get the Glazers out. Get somebody who knows how the football business works properly and restructuring the club again.

Since what happened yesterday, I have to say some players doesn't deserve to play for Manchester United are De Gea, Dalot, Maguire, Shaw, Fred, McTominay and Rashford. They need to go seriously and I can't fathom how De Gea made easy mistakes even he's experienced enough to do better. I don't know why didn't we go for Kasper Schmeichel?

The players we have got is the best choice that ten Hag could choose and I'm sure if we give him a time to build HIS squad. I'm sure the results will be better like Arteta did, Klopp did and so on.

Rabiot. De Jong. Icardi. They would improve the current squad and better than what we have got now.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2022/23: United royally sh!t the bed at Brentford
by KingK » Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:50 am

Off to the first (of many, no doubt) relegation 6 pointers today as we (Forest, 18th) take on West Ham (19th).

Really looking forward to getting back to the City Ground and taking in, and contributing to, the atmosphere. Hopefully Sky will not choose to do an ad break when Mull of Kintyre is being sung just as the kick off is about to happen.

Despite being a Forest fan for over 40 yrs, and a season ticket holder for the last 10, this will be my first ever Premier League game I’ve attended.

Due to our massive (and necessary) rebuild of the squad since the end of last season, we’re very much a work in progress at the moment. New signings will take time to gel. I just hope the manager is given time to get his philosophy across to them all.

Speaking of new signings, we announced 2 further ones late last night. Emmanuel Dennis signed from Watford for £12.5m rising to £20m. Then Chekhov Kouyate was confirmed having signed on a free from Palace. That takes us to 14 new signings.

Freuler is due to be confirmed as our 15th shortly having signed from Atalanta for £7.6m. And we’re not done there. Another Atalanta player is strongly linked (Milinowski for c£12.5m). Rumours re Morgan Gibbs White from Wolves seem to have quietened a little in recent days, but James Garner coming back from Man U rumble on.

Exciting times, even if it does turn out to be just for 1 season.

You Reds!

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2022/23: United royally sh!t the bed at Brentford
by Benzin » Sun Aug 14, 2022 10:13 am

Been linked to Maupay too. It's an outrageous turnaround of players so could cause a lot of problems with that. Not sure how Cooper's system works in terms of on the training ground but it's a big ask of him.

United are simply suffering from years of mismanagement and poor decisions. Completely summed up by buying Ronaldo last season (even if he ended up their top scorer).

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2022/23: United royally sh!t the bed at Brentford
by Buffalo » Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:48 am

Like Cutty, I’m absolutely loving watching Manu get lashed all over every week from all quarters. It’s mainly watching muppets like Gary Neville and Roy Keane going loco that I’m enjoying, but nobody likes serial winners boring the place out, like it was when I was younger. They’ll give themselves a stroke, the way they go on.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2022/23: United royally sh!t the bed at Brentford
by Albert » Sun Aug 14, 2022 12:13 pm

Flipping heck Utd, what is going on over there? I'm sure they will steady the ship but what an awful way to start.

It would never happen, but hyperthetically what would happen to a club the size of Man Utd if they got relegated. Would they just immediatly bounce right back up, or would all their players have breack clauses and they are then unable to attract any true quality replacements?

Arsenal annoyingly looking good. I know it gets memed a lot but I actually think the whole Arteta/5 year plan is a smart move. We are way too quick in general to abandon managers in the chase of immediate success. Showing a bit of paitence does seem to pay off (Klopp, Fergie, Arsene, Steve Bruce)

Big game for Tottenham today. I hate playing chelsea and our record is really poor against them, so will be interesting to see what comes of it following the summer signings some proper time with Conte. Definitly could see at least 1 red card if not 2 with Ricarlson and Romero on the pitch.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2022/23: United royally sh!t the bed at Brentford
by Lotus » Sun Aug 14, 2022 12:26 pm

One of my favourite Man U stats from yesterday is that in the 12 months since Sancho made his debut, he's scored fewer goals (3) than the club have had managers (4) :slol:

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2022/23: United royally sh!t the bed at Brentford
by Denster » Sun Aug 14, 2022 2:00 pm

Not much to say about that shitshow yesterday. Going to be a difficult season. Have a horrible feeling we are going to get another filleting a week tomorrow. Not a good time to a red.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2022/23: United royally sh!t the bed at Brentford
by Lotus » Sun Aug 14, 2022 2:45 pm

Listening to 5 Live and coverage of the West Ham v Forest game. Clinton Morrison absolutely butchering the English language with his attempt at co-commentary. Just awful, how does keep getting work? :dread:

Really dislike West Ham for some reason, so hoping Forest can get something from the game.


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