The Football Thread 2024/25: Another international break, yay \o/

[Albert]

You need to direct your annoyance at Arteta for instructing his players to pull this sort of gooseberry fool rather than blaming the refs for following the rules and spoiling the game.

But they didn't apply the rules for Doku. If you're going to make a decision as monumental as a yellow for what Trossard did, make sure it's applied consistently. There's no excuse for it not to be when you consider there's a VAR team + ref. Has to be zero tolerance or why bother.

Ok, but last season one of your players picked the ball up in open play during a Champions League Final game and completlely got away with it. Were you whining about consitancy then?

All Teams win some and lose some when it comes to refing decisions. Rice, on a yellow decided to kick the ball away and stop play. Not one Arsenal fan aknowledges this. Its all be about "What about consistancy".

Again today. Trossard made a bad decision whilst on a yellow, and again it's the world against Arsenal rather than maybe the player shouldn't be pulling that gooseberry fool on a yellow.

The fact that Arsenal fans follow possibly the 2nd best club in the League/world, have possibly the best defence in the world, play some of the best football in the world, yet just cannot for a second have the humility or self awareness to hold any of their players accountable or responsibile for their actions (and I'm not even talking about "he who should not be named")

[Return_of_the_STAR]

Is today the day people realise that Pep is not Arteta's role model and instead it's actually Mourinho

[Cuttooth]

strawberry float

[Benzin]

Inevitable really.

[speedboatchase]

You need to direct your annoyance at Arteta for instructing his players to pull this sort of gooseberry fool rather than blaming the refs for following the rules and spoiling the game.

But they didn't apply the rules for Doku. If you're going to make a decision as monumental as a yellow for what Trossard did, make sure it's applied consistently. There's no excuse for it not to be when you consider there's a VAR team + ref. Has to be zero tolerance or why bother.

Ok, but last season one of your players picked the ball up in open play during a Champions League Final game and completlely got away with it. Were you whining about consitancy then?

All Teams win some and lose some when it comes to refing decisions. But the fact that Arsenal fans are lucky enough to follow possibly the 2nd best club in the League/world, have possibly the best defence in the world, play some of the best football in the world, yet just cannot for a second hold any of their players accountable or responsibile for their actions (and I'm not even talking about "he who should not be named" player).

Was someone else sent off in the same game for doing the same thing? If not, it probably wouldn't have entered my mind. It happens every game, only this season it's meant to be a priority for refs to limit time-wasting. So apply it with zero tolerance or don't.

[Albert]

You need to direct your annoyance at Arteta for instructing his players to pull this sort of gooseberry fool rather than blaming the refs for following the rules and spoiling the game.

But they didn't apply the rules for Doku. If you're going to make a decision as monumental as a yellow for what Trossard did, make sure it's applied consistently. There's no excuse for it not to be when you consider there's a VAR team + ref. Has to be zero tolerance or why bother.

Ok, but last season one of your players picked the ball up in open play during a Champions League Final game and completlely got away with it. Were you whining about consitancy then?

All Teams win some and lose some when it comes to refing decisions. But the fact that Arsenal fans follow possibly the 2nd best club in the League/world, the best defence in the world, and play some of the best football in the world, yet just cannot for a second hold any of their own players accountable or responsibile for their own actions (and I'm not even talking about "he who should not be named" player).

Was someone else sent off in the same game for doing the same thing? If not, it probably wouldn't have entered my mind. It happens every game, only this season it's meant to be a priority for refs to limit time-wasting. So apply it with zero tolerance or don't.

I don't even know what this means but sure ok, whatever.

[PuppetBoy]

Oh strawberry float off City, no one likes you

[Ploiper]

typical that man city would score at the end. annoying really, didn't lose though i suppose, held out very well in the second half. probably can still see it as a good point

[Tomous]

And there it is.

Flukey bastards.

[speedboatchase]

You need to direct your annoyance at Arteta for instructing his players to pull this sort of gooseberry fool rather than blaming the refs for following the rules and spoiling the game.

But they didn't apply the rules for Doku. If you're going to make a decision as monumental as a yellow for what Trossard did, make sure it's applied consistently. There's no excuse for it not to be when you consider there's a VAR team + ref. Has to be zero tolerance or why bother.

Ok, but last season one of your players picked the ball up in open play during a Champions League Final game and completlely got away with it. Were you whining about consitancy then?

All Teams win some and lose some when it comes to refing decisions. But the fact that Arsenal fans follow possibly the 2nd best club in the League/world, have possibly the best defence in the world, play some of the best football in the world, yet just cannot for a second hold any of their players accountable or responsibile for their actions (and I'm not even talking about "he who should not be named" player).

Was someone else sent off in the same game for doing the same thing? If not, it probably wouldn't have entered my mind. It happens every game, only this season it's meant to be a priority for refs to limit time-wasting. So apply it with zero tolerance or don't.

I don't even know what this means but sure ok, whatever.

You're against the argument of the rules being applied consistently because of... some reason. Cool.

[Albert]

You need to direct your annoyance at Arteta for instructing his players to pull this sort of gooseberry fool rather than blaming the refs for following the rules and spoiling the game.

But they didn't apply the rules for Doku. If you're going to make a decision as monumental as a yellow for what Trossard did, make sure it's applied consistently. There's no excuse for it not to be when you consider there's a VAR team + ref. Has to be zero tolerance or why bother.

Ok, but last season one of your players picked the ball up in open play during a Champions League Final game and completlely got away with it. Were you whining about consitancy then?

All Teams win some and lose some when it comes to refing decisions. But the fact that Arsenal fans follow possibly the 2nd best club in the League/world, have possibly the best defence in the world, play some of the best football in the world, yet just cannot for a second hold any of their players accountable or responsibile for their actions (and I'm not even talking about "he who should not be named" player).

Was someone else sent off in the same game for doing the same thing? If not, it probably wouldn't have entered my mind. It happens every game, only this season it's meant to be a priority for refs to limit time-wasting. So apply it with zero tolerance or don't.

I don't even know what this means but sure ok, whatever.

You're against the argument of the rules being applied consistently because of... some reason. Cool.

How consitant are we talking? Consitant across one game, multiple, a season?

Are you as outraged when bad decisions go in favour for your club and cry about consitancy? Apologies if you do and well done.

[speedboatchase]

You need to direct your annoyance at Arteta for instructing his players to pull this sort of gooseberry fool rather than blaming the refs for following the rules and spoiling the game.

But they didn't apply the rules for Doku. If you're going to make a decision as monumental as a yellow for what Trossard did, make sure it's applied consistently. There's no excuse for it not to be when you consider there's a VAR team + ref. Has to be zero tolerance or why bother.

Ok, but last season one of your players picked the ball up in open play during a Champions League Final game and completlely got away with it. Were you whining about consitancy then?

All Teams win some and lose some when it comes to refing decisions. But the fact that Arsenal fans follow possibly the 2nd best club in the League/world, have possibly the best defence in the world, play some of the best football in the world, yet just cannot for a second hold any of their players accountable or responsibile for their actions (and I'm not even talking about "he who should not be named" player).

Was someone else sent off in the same game for doing the same thing? If not, it probably wouldn't have entered my mind. It happens every game, only this season it's meant to be a priority for refs to limit time-wasting. So apply it with zero tolerance or don't.

I don't even know what this means but sure ok, whatever.

You're against the argument of the rules being applied consistently because of... some reason. Cool.

How consitant are we talking? Consitant across one game, multiple, a season?

Are you as outraged when bad decisions go in favour for your club and cry about consitancy? Apologies if you do and well done.

You're just trying to argue for the sake of it. Rules need to be applied consistently and the ref is backed by a VAR team so no excuses for them. A basic concept.

[Ploiper]

lets look at the big picture here, away games to villa, tottenham and man city in our first five. 7 points out of 9, as annoying as it is not to hold onto that win today, 7 out of 9 from three hard away games is pretty good still.

[Dowbocop]

You need to direct your annoyance at Arteta for instructing his players to pull this sort of gooseberry fool rather than blaming the refs for following the rules and spoiling the game.

All teams utilise the dark arts to some degree or other so it's unfair to single out Arteta. If you were being logically consistent you'd be just as critical of Guardiola for Jeremy Doku committing the same offence. The difference is that Arsenal have had two players sent off in three matches, whilst João Pedro and Doku haven't been penalised at all for the same offence. That's not Arteta's fault is it?

lets look at the big picture here, away games to villa, tottenham and man city in our first five. 7 points out of 9, as annoying as it is not to hold onto that win today, 7 out of 9 from three hard away games is pretty good still.

Yeah. This hurts because we were so close to the win but we've got three of the big away games out of the way and are in a good position.

[mcjihge2]

But remember - man city are going to get 30 points docked this season.

[Psychic]

You need to direct your annoyance at Arteta for instructing his players to pull this sort of gooseberry fool rather than blaming the refs for following the rules and spoiling the game.

All teams utilise the dark arts to some degree or other so it's unfair to single out Arteta. If you were being logically consistent you'd be just as critical of Guardiola for Jeremy Doku committing the same offence. The difference is that Arsenal have had two players sent off in three matches, whilst João Pedro and Doku haven't been penalised at all for the same offence. That's not Arteta's fault is it?

There's a clip showing the ref pointing back which is why Doku played the ball there.

[Dowbocop]

You need to direct your annoyance at Arteta for instructing his players to pull this sort of gooseberry fool rather than blaming the refs for following the rules and spoiling the game.

All teams utilise the dark arts to some degree or other so it's unfair to single out Arteta. If you were being logically consistent you'd be just as critical of Guardiola for Jeremy Doku committing the same offence. The difference is that Arsenal have had two players sent off in three matches, whilst João Pedro and Doku haven't been penalised at all for the same offence. That's not Arteta's fault is it?

There's a clip showing the ref pointing back which is why Doku played the ball there.

I went off Twitter last month so I never see these anymore. Need to look at getting on Bluesky or something for football news.

[Psychic]

You need to direct your annoyance at Arteta for instructing his players to pull this sort of gooseberry fool rather than blaming the refs for following the rules and spoiling the game.

All teams utilise the dark arts to some degree or other so it's unfair to single out Arteta. If you were being logically consistent you'd be just as critical of Guardiola for Jeremy Doku committing the same offence. The difference is that Arsenal have had two players sent off in three matches, whilst João Pedro and Doku haven't been penalised at all for the same offence. That's not Arteta's fault is it?

There's a clip showing the ref pointing back which is why Doku played the ball there.

I went off Twitter last month so I never see these anymore. Need to look at getting on Bluesky or something for football news.

It was on Sky Sports if that's any help.

[Tomous]

Yeah, watching it again, Oliver is asking for the free kick to be taken further back, Doku looks at him and kicks it in the direction he is pointing. Doku does overkick it a bit and I'm not sure if that's intentional or not but no ref is going to book him in that scenario. It's completely different to kicking the ball away after the whistle has gone because you've clattered into someone.

Here's a link to the clip:

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/s/IQPwEmesVl

[KingK]

Was in the away end at Anfield on Saturday with my lad for our historic win.

Lifetime memory created.

Out of interest how easy/difficult is it to get Forrest ( ) away tickets?

Impossible if you’re not a Forest member.

I’m an away member (in lowest 3rd tier of away membership ) and I have to apply in a ballot for chance to buy out of 1000-2500 available (depends on our allocation from home team). Season card holders and non away members also have an option for a ballot but there are only 100 tickets available to them.