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You can't spell hip hop without hipster. or the otehr way around

raider klan > asap > most hip hop > death grips > everything else > odd future

recently anyway

you used to be cool

Abs wrote:

SandyCoin wrote:I've noticed the majority of tunes posted here are relatively "old". My collection holds most of these too. Hip Hip used to be my favourite genre since I was around 11 or so. Used to have a massive collection but more or less stopped listening to it into the 00's. I still listen to my old stuff but I find the newer hip hop to be pretty dreadful. The chart stuff is seriously dull. Even the chart stuff when I was listening to it was still good.

All I hear now is Kanye, Li'l Wayne and shitty "dirrrrrrrrrrrrrty South" stuff. Shame really. I'd be interested to know if there are any artists around at the moment who people can recommend.

common misconception of modern hip hop, this is why so many people linger in the past or choose to listen gay pack packer hip hop because they're too afraid to just enjoy something like juicy j, which sends people mental in clubs because it's fun

Seriously, how can you relate to these tunes? All they sing about is hoes, diamonds, rich people parties, bling bling strawberry floating bling. yeah and drugs. Doesn't sound any different to me than the other gangsta tripe. not seeing the fun factor, either. Am I missing some satire or something?
I expected better from you, Abs.

Ill Bill slays, though.

I like the still of that girl's bottom. Very shapely.

Pretty gutted to see the man that for years I considered to be the best rapper around, has effectively been reduced to a 'video boy' ...

Hiphop has been dead since early 2000's . strawberry float this genre it has been ass strawberry floated by rich music company owners who promote nothing but gooseberry fool.

Tom1882 wrote:Pretty gutted to see the man that for years I considered to be the best rapper around, has effectively been reduced to a 'video boy' ...

Chris Brown's not that good a rapper.

Have you watched the video? I'm not referring to Chris Brown.

Never really rated Nas.

Mafro wrote:Never really rated Nas.

He's got one or two good songs. My problem with Nas is that he bitches about white people too much. I don't mind the odd poke but this guy really goes for it in some tracks. Seriously, not all white people are trying to keep a brother down.

Archaeon wrote:Seriously, how can you relate to these tunes? All they sing about is hoes, diamonds, rich people parties, bling bling strawberry floating bling. yeah and drugs. Doesn't sound any different to me than the other gangsta tripe. not seeing the fun factor, either. Am I missing some satire or something?
I expected better from you, Abs.

Ill Bill slays, though.

i relate to bits of it, obviously i'm not strawberry floated on cough syrup with 20 bitches all day, but sometimes i come close.

i know why you don't see the fun factor though, but that's exactly what i'm on about.. i'm not saying you are like this, but it's usually nerdy guys with a beard and some flying lotus records that are dead against 99% of hip hop, claiming anything that isn't some backpacking gooseberry fool from the 90s with metaphorical lyrics about waterfalls and the system is just too gangster or bling for them to listen to at home on their computer.

what did you expect from me archy? i do like deeper rap music, i think the druggy bling stuff has it's rightful place too

and if you listened to the asap tune "aint talkin bout no money i aint talkin bout no cars, talkin bout no diamonds cause that gooseberry fool is a facade"

Dblock wrote:Hiphop has been dead since early 2000's . strawberry float this genre it has been ass strawberry floated by rich music company owners who promote nothing but gooseberry fool.

and this aswell, c'mon man look past radio 1 and mtv

Fatal Exception wrote: My problem with Nas is that he bitches about white people too much. I don't mind the odd poke but this guy really goes for it in some tracks. Seriously, not all white people are trying to keep a brother down.

Yeah I agree, it's something that really puts me off some guys in the hip-hop industry. I know it's dominated by black guys, but they really do alienate other races with some of the stuff they say, and even just how pro-black they are makes it hard to relate to for some listeners.

Black Thought and Common are two that immediately spring to mind for me. I think they're both great, but sometimes I just feel like they don't want a white guy listening to their music.

Not enough Public Enemy in this thread. One of my all time favourites.

My fave Public Enemy track is "She Watch Channel Zero!?"

Abs wrote:

Archaeon wrote:Seriously, how can you relate to these tunes? All they sing about is hoes, diamonds, rich people parties, bling bling strawberry floating bling. yeah and drugs. Doesn't sound any different to me than the other gangsta tripe. not seeing the fun factor, either. Am I missing some satire or something?
I expected better from you, Abs.

Ill Bill slays, though.

i relate to bits of it, obviously i'm not strawberry floated on cough syrup with 20 bitches all day, but sometimes i come close.

i know why you don't see the fun factor though, but that's exactly what i'm on about.. i'm not saying you are like this, but it's usually nerdy guys with a beard and some flying lotus records that are dead against 99% of hip hop, claiming anything that isn't some backpacking gooseberry fool from the 90s with metaphorical lyrics about waterfalls and the system is just too gangster or bling for them to listen to at home on their computer.

what did you expect from me archy? i do like deeper rap music, i think the druggy bling stuff has it's rightful place too

and if you listened to the asap tune "aint talkin bout no money i aint talkin bout no cars, talkin bout no diamonds cause that gooseberry fool is a facade"

I try not to take music too seriously. Listening to music for me is 100% the best thing there is, but no matter what stuff I like I always try to keep a loose attitude about it all. Still, I like to poke other people and their tastes, so I purposely exaggerate my arguments sometimes.
I'm put off by this gangsta rap stuff (which is a crude generalization because I never really looked into it that much) because I'm not connecting with the whole attitude of being the best of the pack, having your gooseberry fool under control, having a posse and all that stuff. Because IRL I don't have it under control, I'm a mess, and I don't even have half a bitch to strawberry float. Death Grips on the other hand I can relate to because they transmit this feeling of hopelessness and chaos, and differently to Odd Wolf I don't feel like they're just trying to be controversial for the sake of it, but rather they've tapped into some primal vein and they're doing their own thing. But I could be wrong, I could be the victim of yet another music industry swindle.
I do have a Flying Lotus album, but I listened to it once, maybe not even. I'm sick of this ooh aah post contemporary music that's supposed to be profoundly revisiting old classic stuff through sampling and tinkering with electronics and stuff. All it does for me is make me think "yeah ok you're proud of your record collection. big whoop". At least Fatboy Slim had some funky beats. I heard a Flying Lotus track which I really liked, bought the album, discovered all the other tracks were boring. The same stuff has happened to me with other electro-whatever they call themselves hipster artists like Four Tet and others. Pretentious crap.
I obviously wasn't serious about my comments. You are the one who introduced me to Hella and other great stuff, so of course I'm going to make fun of you listening to gangsta rap. Which you tell me isn't really gangsta rap, so I'll have to listen to ASAP and co. a bit better. But despite what I just said above, for me music is mostly about the aural experience, not about the lyrics. I judge hip hop first of all by the beats, not the lyrical prowess. And those two tunes you posted don't do it for me. I could say it's because they're too simple and drum machiney, but I recently listened to some NWA stuff which is just as basic, but yet has a different quality of sound which makes me really like it. So I don't know, I just don't like it. I know I contradict myself when I talk about music - I like this x I should also like y but I don't. It's because I don't care about rules, cults, genres in music, I just like what I like. I couldn't care less about trve kvlt black metal or whatever, but I still prefer some black metal bands over others.

Good post, fella. I get where you're coming from, apologies if that sounds condescending!

you're a star mate, i understand what you mean completely and appreciate your reply, sorry if i seemed a bit aggy

so anyway, fast rappers, there's this guy called Shady Blaze who is just out of this world, does really spacey tunes with great producers like ryan hemsworth and signs







this mixtape is seriously worth getting, first tune is the best one to get really spaced out to

http://distorted.bandcamp.com/

Abs wrote:you're a star mate, i understand what you mean completely and appreciate your reply, sorry if i seemed a bit aggy

Of course not. Just wanted to explain myself.