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by OrangeRKN » Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:54 pm

Pancake wrote:Up to 95 shrines now, no idea where the rest are. I'd like to at least break 100 before going after Ganon but I've run out of ideas for where to find them and I've already put so many hours into aimless exploring. Did anyone else get to a point where they were tempted to look up the remaining shrine locations? I want to experience everything this game has to offer but I don't want it to take the rest of the year (because I'm trying to focus on one game at a time rather than buying and trying loads but never completing them, which is what I usually do).


When I was down to I think 8 left I looked up a map to get the rough locations. No point scouring the entire map with the shrine detector turned on - especially when it doesn't alert you to some shrines that have to be revealed with a puzzle.

Frank wrote:I barely recognise any of these NPC names :slol:


Mipha = Link's Zora piece
Hudson = Carpenter, Tarrey Town founder, all-around swell guy and Link's best friend
Hagie and Ruli = Tarrey Town posh parents
Hunnie = Their sick kid who loves [redacted] cake
Urbosa = Strong queen
Daruk = Not Darunia
Revali = Punchable bird man
Bolson = Awkwardly camp stereotype
Hestu = MARACAS
Kohga = Yiga clan boss man
Kass = The bird that made accordions cool
Sidon = Link's true love
Zelda = Don't remember who this is sorry

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PostRe: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild GOTG v2
by Balladeer » Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:48 pm

Frank wrote:I barely recognise any of these NPC names :slol:

Kass is the best.

I had to look some of the names up, but I knew the characters off the top of my head!

Hestu is bestu. :wub:

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PostRe: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild GOTG v2
by Errkal » Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:11 pm

Pancake wrote:Up to 95 shrines now, no idea where the rest are. I'd like to at least break 100 before going after Ganon but I've run out of ideas for where to find them and I've already put so many hours into aimless exploring. Did anyone else get to a point where they were tempted to look up the remaining shrine locations? I want to experience everything this game has to offer but I don't want it to take the rest of the year (because I'm trying to focus on one game at a time rather than buying and trying loads but never completing them, which is what I usually do).


There is a website called Zelda maps that has everything on it and you make an account and check stuff off, if you want to use a tool to find them. Doesn’t tell you anything about them just where they are.

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by Captain Kinopio » Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:56 pm

What is Bolson a stereotype of?

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PostRe: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild GOTG v2
by VlaSoul » Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:51 am

best characters are Mipha, Zelda(except for her english VA holy gooseberry fool), Revali, Kass and my fish waifu Sidon

Pancake wrote:Up to 95 shrines now, no idea where the rest are. I'd like to at least break 100 before going after Ganon but I've run out of ideas for where to find them and I've already put so many hours into aimless exploring. Did anyone else get to a point where they were tempted to look up the remaining shrine locations? I want to experience everything this game has to offer but I don't want it to take the rest of the year (because I'm trying to focus on one game at a time rather than buying and trying loads but never completing them, which is what I usually do).

strawberry float what how many of those things are there stg i aint even done nearly that many

Captain Kinopio wrote:What is Bolson a stereotype of?

like, gay
like really strawberry floating gay
he's the kind of character you'd expect in a game or anime from like 20 years ago

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PostRe: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild GOTG v2
by Captain Kinopio » Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:50 am

Is he gay?

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by OrangeRKN » Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:05 am

Captain Kinopio wrote:Is he gay?


I believe the intention of his design is to imply it at least, in a very Japanese way. Like if you talk to him not wearing any armour he says:

"Whoa my! ♪ Aren't you perky? ♪ Well then..."

Also this trivia:

Bolson's profession, demeanor and attire are an allusion to the Carpenters in the Japanese version of Ocarina of Time. In it, the Carpenters would aimlessly prance around Kakariko Village and notably employ characteristically feminine speech. Additionally, one of the Carpenters refers to Link as a cute boy. These are stereotypical traits of gay men in Japanese media that weren't properly adapted for the English versions. In the English versions of Breath of the Wild however, Bolson's stereotypical characteristics were retained. Bolson's tiger-striped collar, leg wrappings, and blue jacket are also likely a reference to the Master Craftsman from Ocarina of Time.

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PostRe: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild GOTG v2
by Balladeer » Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:23 am

I feel bad for liking him now. I guess it didn’t seem as in your face as Jean Armstrong, say; but yes he’s pretty darn camp.

I just like the bit where he’s throwing confetti around. :(

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by Karl_ » Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:31 am

The portrayal of Bolson is definitely problematic but I kind of found him cute & endearing regardless.

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by Frank » Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:34 am

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Pancake wrote:Up to 95 shrines now, no idea where the rest are. I'd like to at least break 100 before going after Ganon but I've run out of ideas for where to find them and I've already put so many hours into aimless exploring. Did anyone else get to a point where they were tempted to look up the remaining shrine locations? I want to experience everything this game has to offer but I don't want it to take the rest of the year (because I'm trying to focus on one game at a time rather than buying and trying loads but never completing them, which is what I usually do).


When I was down to I think 8 left I looked up a map to get the rough locations. No point scouring the entire map with the shrine detector turned on - especially when it doesn't alert you to some shrines that have to be revealed with a puzzle.

Frank wrote:I barely recognise any of these NPC names :slol:


Mipha = Link's Zora piece
Hudson = Carpenter, Tarrey Town founder, all-around swell guy and Link's best friend
Hagie and Ruli = Tarrey Town posh parents
Hunnie = Their sick kid who loves [redacted] cake
Urbosa = Strong queen
Daruk = Not Darunia
Revali = Punchable bird man
Bolson = Awkwardly camp stereotype
Hestu = MARACAS
Kohga = Yiga clan boss man
Kass = The bird that made accordions cool
Sidon = Link's true love
Zelda = Don't remember who this is sorry


Thanks for this, OR! :wub: I've beaten Ganon, but there's clearly a *lot* that I missed. I always wondered where Tarrey Town was :slol: I've totally missed that quest

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PostRe: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild GOTG v2
by OrangeRKN » Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:38 am

I will continue to complain about how missable they made the best sidequest in the game, especially by gating it behind fully upgrading your house (itself easily missable).

You should definitely go back and play through it! You're definitely not alone in not doing it first time round

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by Jenuall » Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:18 pm

I will continue to complain about how terrible they made the best sidequest in the game. :P

It seems almost churlish to complain about it given the riches and quality that the game bestows on the player in so many other ways, but questing (main or side) in BotW remained an utter disappointment throughout for me.

Bring me some wood! Show me a picture! Bake me an apple! :fp:

There's rarely any narrative weight or interesting gameplay challenge to anything the game asks you to do in the sidequests, which is a real shame given the fantastic natural world they had created to play in, and the interesting set of gameplay mechanics which they could have easily messed around with more.

EDIT: To make it clear, just in case of misinterpretation, I still think that the game is incredibly good, but that this was one glaring gap in its offering that really stood out to me personally.

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by Drumstick » Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:22 pm

Tarrey Town :wub:

Off the top of my head I could perhaps have named about 3 NPCs in BOTW but I do remember all of the ones OR has listed. Hudson clearly #1.

I see TT as a reward to those that bothered upgrading the house.

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PostRe: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild GOTG v2
by Frank » Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:25 pm

I don't think I ever even got a house :shifty:

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by OrangeRKN » Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:29 pm

I think the idea isn't to play with mechanics, its to introduce you to them in case you haven't found them already. A lot of the side quests are like tutorials in that sense.

Tarrey Town though has you build up an entire town by finding new residents across the world, which unlocks other sidequests and stores - including the rare armour store which is the only way of reacquiring some pieces of equipment, most notably the Hylian shield. It also ends with attending a wedding which I think is a pretty fun little narrative woven in!

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by Jenuall » Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:40 pm

Tarrey Town is by far the most involved quest in the game no doubt, but it still isn't especially interesting from a mechanical or narrative perspective in my view. Again I appreciate that this is not the point of the game in many ways, but I still think it would be a greatly enhanced experience if more attention was given to these aspects.

Majora's Mask is a great example of where Nintendo managed to weave some really interesting story and gameplay vignettes into the proven mechanics of a Zelda game, and they did it extremely well. If BotW had just a few more things on that level then it would have been awesome.

Anju and Kafei :wub:

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by Cheeky Devlin » Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:47 pm

Jenuall wrote:Tarrey Town is by far the most involved quest in the game no doubt, but it still isn't especially interesting from a mechanical or narrative perspective in my view. Again I appreciate that this is not the point of the game in many ways, but I still think it would be a greatly enhanced experience if more attention was given to these aspects.

Majora's Mask is a great example of where Nintendo managed to weave some really interesting story and gameplay vignettes into the proven mechanics of a Zelda game, and they did it extremely well. If BotW had just a few more things on that level then it would have been awesome.

Anju and Kafei :wub:


For me this is still the high-water mark in Zelda Quest/Side-Quest design. An involved, massive quest with a satisfying story and really emotional pay off towards the end. Nothing they've done subsequently has come close, and in fact I'd say you could argue that they've not really attempted anything quite like it since.

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PostRe: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild GOTG v2
by OrangeRKN » Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:48 pm

I'm really hopeful that's exactly what we'll get with the next Zelda, as plenty of others have said before. Another Majora-like reimagining, a much smaller world with the focus on characters and little self-contained stories.

BOTW can't be followed up with the same again

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PostRe: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild GOTG v2
by Balladeer » Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:16 pm

As long as there’s no chuffing time limit then it’s all good.

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by OrangeRKN » Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:50 pm

Balladeer wrote:As long as there’s no chuffing time limit then it’s all good.


Majora's Mask doesn't have a time limit

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