Star Wars: The Mandalorian - Disney+.

The real Darksaber was the friends they made along the way.

Alvin Flummux wrote:

Tomous wrote:Solid final episode albeit one without any real surprises. I think the fact they had it all wrapped up in 35 minutes demonstrates how simple the plot has been this season. They really didnt have a huge amount to tie up, but whaf they did, they did extremely well with some great moments so ill give them plenty of credit for that. Very much feels like the end doesnt it? Weakest season for me and i think its probably the right time to end it. I'm aure the 2 of them will pop up in the other stuff they're doin anyway.

Also, extremely lame that after they built up the Darksaber to be this brilliant mythical weapon that it crumpled so easily. Isnt the hilt made of beskar?

Sadly for you, it's not ending yet - season 4's script has been written up already, in order to line up with the events of Ahsoka and Skeleton Crew. Given the way this season ended, Din is going to get wrapped up in the upcoming war with the Imperial Remnant. I think it'll probably reach season 5 before the movie comes along and wraps things up completely. There has been some speculation that they might try and keep the show going afterwards, but that's just idle talk right now.

As for the Darksaber, we aren't sure what it's made from, only that it's a ridiculously tough, probably Beskar-like material. Could be an improved Beskar recipe. The fact Gideon could crumple it is testimony to the quality of the Dark Trooper suit he was wearing, and it sets us up for a reforging sequence or story arc.

Fair enough, i guess after the inconsistency of this season im heistant for more but if they wrote S3 and S4 at the same time with the other stuff thats coming in mind it could well make more sense down the line.

Yeah, I'm sorry but the way theyve been bigging up this weapon to be the most important weapon in Mandolorian culture and then to watch it fall apart so easily is a really unsatisfying conclusion.

Tomous wrote:Fair enough, i guess after the inconsistency of this season im heistant for more but if they wrote S3 and S4 at the same time with the other stuff thats coming in mind it could well make more sense down the line.

Yeah, I'm sorry but the way theyve been bigging up this weapon to be the most important weapon in Mandolorian culture and then to watch it fall apart so easily is a really unsatisfying conclusion.

It's an important relic of House Viszla, and a unifying and legitimizing political symbol, but, the way it gets talked about, by Din aboard the Mad Maxalorian windsurf ship, or by Fenn Rau in Rebels, it isn't the be all and end all. Mandalorians have spent a lot of time living without it, just fine.

I get that it's not satisfying for you to see it destroyed, but, bad guy's gonna bad guy, and, maybe it's good that it's gone. Maybe it was too divisive an object to keep around, a symbol of a past that cannot be resurrected, and Mandalore can look to the future now, united in purpose, instead of fighting over an ancient weapon.

I still think they'll remake it, though, and I think Grogu will get to keep it, as thanks for saving Din and Bo, and helping save Mandalore.

Alvin Flummux wrote:

Tomous wrote:Fair enough, i guess after the inconsistency of this season im heistant for more but if they wrote S3 and S4 at the same time with the other stuff thats coming in mind it could well make more sense down the line.

Yeah, I'm sorry but the way theyve been bigging up this weapon to be the most important weapon in Mandolorian culture and then to watch it fall apart so easily is a really unsatisfying conclusion.

It's an important relic of House Viszla, and a unifying and legitimizing political symbol, but, the way it gets talked about, by Din aboard the Mad Maxalorian windsurf ship, or by Fenn Rau in Rebels, it isn't the be all and end all. Mandalorians have spent a lot of time living without it, just fine.

I get that it's not satisfying for you to see it destroyed, but, bad guy's gonna bad guy, and, maybe it's good that it's gone. Maybe it was too divisive an object to keep around, a symbol of a past that cannot be resurrected, and Mandalore can look to the future now, united in purpose, instead of fighting over an ancient weapon.

I still think they'll remake it, though, and I think Grogu will get to keep it, as thanks for saving Din and Bo, and helping save Mandalore.

It's only right the Mandalorian J edi lightsaber goes to the one true Mandalorian Jedi

Alvin Flummux wrote:

Tomous wrote:Fair enough, i guess after the inconsistency of this season im heistant for more but if they wrote S3 and S4 at the same time with the other stuff thats coming in mind it could well make more sense down the line.

Yeah, I'm sorry but the way theyve been bigging up this weapon to be the most important weapon in Mandolorian culture and then to watch it fall apart so easily is a really unsatisfying conclusion.

It's an important relic of House Viszla, and a unifying and legitimizing political symbol, but, the way it gets talked about, by Din aboard the Mad Maxalorian windsurf ship, or by Fenn Rau in Rebels, it isn't the be all and end all. Mandalorians have spent a lot of time living without it, just fine.

I get that it's not satisfying for you to see it destroyed, but, bad guy's gonna bad guy, and, maybe it's good that it's gone. Maybe it was too divisive an object to keep around, a symbol of a past that cannot be resurrected, and Mandalore can look to the future now, united in purpose, instead of fighting over an ancient weapon.

I still think they'll remake it, though, and I think Grogu will get to keep it, as thanks for saving Din and Bo, and helping save Mandalore.

I dont have an issue with it being destroyed, but the manner in which it was done so undercut all the prestige they'd spent time giving it. I get theyre trying to build up Gideon's power but its just poor writing and a cheap moment, in my opinion.

Qikz wrote:It's only right the Mandalorian Jedi lightsaber goes to the one true Mandalorian Jedi

Exactly! While the Darksaber has been crazy divisive and the source of a lot of violence, perhaps, reforged and in the hands of a more Jedi-like individual, it will become symbolic of peaceful union instead.

Tomous wrote:I dont have an issue with it being destroyed, but the manner in which it was done so undercut all the prestige they'd spent time giving it. I get theyre trying to build up Gideon's power but its just poor writing and a cheap moment, in my opinion.

I think we'll have to agree to disagree, because it felt like such an "oh snap" moment to me - a demonstration of power, the end of an era, and a prelude to a major character death, the latter of which was prevented by the timely arrival of Din & Grogu.

Are Favreau/Filoni fans of Tolkien?

All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.
From the ashes a fire shall be woken,
A light from the shadows shall spring;
Renewed shall be blade that was broken,
The crownless again shall be king.

Quite a bit of that, especially the blade that was broken, could fit the Mandalorian story so far.

Reasonable finale to what has been a really quite poor season. Too many dull characters, too many boring subplots. Star Wars is at its best when it's simple and streamlined. Reading Alvin's posts above make me want to claw my eyes out with a spoon.

I really enjoyed this season of the mandalorian. Good length episodes, development in each one. Not a single bad episode. Every episode was better than any in boba fett. Fantastic final two episodes. Bring on season 4.

Really enjoyed that finale.

I'm honestly surprised they didn't end with a cliffhanger of one of the Gideon clones surviving and waking up, as soon as we saw the clone tanks being destroyed I was 100% convinced that was going to be the final shot.

more heat than light wrote:RReading Alvin's posts above make me want to claw my eyes out with a spoon.

Enthusiasm and enjoyment and positivity, oh noooo.

Don't hate watch things you clearly don't like.

Alvin Flummux wrote:

more heat than light wrote:RReading Alvin's posts above make me want to claw my eyes out with a spoon.

Enthusiasm and enjoyment and positivity, oh noooo.

Don't hate watch things you clearly don't like.

Not the enthusiasm, all the backstory guff. The legend of Jong Bong Wungu the great Jedi Master who once used the Spear of Karbonia to kill an army of Farboloos and reclaim his homeworld of Mungbongatron. I don't care. It's Star Wars.

more heat than light wrote:

Alvin Flummux wrote:

more heat than light wrote:RReading Alvin's posts above make me want to claw my eyes out with a spoon.

Enthusiasm and enjoyment and positivity, oh noooo.

Don't hate watch things you clearly don't like.

Not the enthusiasm, all the backstory guff. The legend of Jong Bong Wungu the great Jedi Master who once used the Spear of Karbonia to kill an army of Farboloos and reclaim his homeworld of Mungbongatron. I don't care. It's Star Wars.

Exactly, it's Star Wars, and you can engage with exactly however much or little of it as you wish. I embrace it, you don't, that's fine.

If you don't like the lore, too bad? Any thoughts I have, which can get pretty verbose, I usually put in spoiler boxes. Nobody has to read them if they don't want, including yourself.

I thought it was a dissapointing finale and a disappointing season. There where a few good moments, and i liked the revisit of Bo Katan. I didnt like that they brought in lots of mandalorians, i thought the arc was clunky and the scripts where simplistic. S2 was so much better, and Andor really showed how to do it. If they where 10/10, then S3 is a 5/10.

I know, was just posting my thoughts. No offence intended towards you personally, I just meant that that kind of stuff does nothing for me.

I find the Marvel Universe to be similarly off-putting. Too much backstory, not enough actual story.

more heat than light wrote:I know, was just posting my thoughts. No offence intended towards you personally, I just meant that that kind of stuff does nothing for me.

I find the Marvel Universe to be similarly off-putting. Too much backstory, not enough actual story.

I read an article from Polygon this morning on this subject that i think sums up the biggest issues with this season well

Lagamorph wrote:Really enjoyed that finale.

I'm honestly surprised they didn't end with a cliffhanger of one of the Gideon clones surviving and waking up, as soon as we saw the clone tanks being destroyed I was 100% convinced that was going to be the final shot.

I expected that as well. I even waited to after the credits.

more heat than light wrote:I know, was just posting my thoughts. No offence intended towards you personally, I just meant that that kind of stuff does nothing for me.

I find the Marvel Universe to be similarly off-putting. Too much backstory, not enough actual story.

Fair enough!

Look at the writing credits for the season - 90% of it is Favreau, with Filoni and maybe one other person also contributing. Man's generally pretty good at what he does, but conveying depth of story through dialogue, clearly not his forté. I think my biggest criticism of the Mandalorian and Boba Fett is the incredibly limited writing staff, which leads to limited perspectives, and missed opportunities to make the shows more well rounded.

Bo-Katan didn't mention her sister once all season, for example, which would have made for a nicely introspective scene, and we haven't really seen the Children of the Watch be the zealots to The Way™ that they are, outside of their helmet fetish. A missed opportunity for a commentary on the rise of religious extremism in modern society.

Could be that the cancellation of Rangers of the New Republic forced some changes, turning a two season retaking of Mandalore arc into a one season arc, to accommodate the Rangers story kicking off next season.

Alvin Flummux wrote:

more heat than light wrote:I know, was just posting my thoughts. No offence intended towards you personally, I just meant that that kind of stuff does nothing for me.

I find the Marvel Universe to be similarly off-putting. Too much backstory, not enough actual story.

Fair enough!

Look at the writing credits for the season - 90% of it is Favreau, with Filoni and maybe one other person also contributing. Man's generally pretty good at what he does, but conveying depth of story through dialogue, clearly not his forté. I think my biggest criticism of the Mandalorian and Boba Fett is the incredibly limited writing staff, which leads to limited perspectives, and missed opportunities to make the shows more well rounded.

Bo-Katan didn't mention her sister once all season, for example, which would have made for a nicely introspective scene, and we haven't really seen the Children of the Watch be the zealots to The Way™ that they are, outside of their helmet fetish. A missed opportunity for a commentary on the rise of religious extremism in modern society.

Could be that the cancellation of Rangers of the New Republic forced some changes, turning a two season retaking of Mandalore arc into a one season arc, to accommodate the Rangers story kicking off next season.

Alvin Flummux wrote:

more heat than light wrote:I know, was just posting my thoughts. No offence intended towards you personally, I just meant that that kind of stuff does nothing for me.

I find the Marvel Universe to be similarly off-putting. Too much backstory, not enough actual story.

Fair enough!

Look at the writing credits for the season - 90% of it is Favreau, with Filoni and maybe one other person also contributing. Man's generally pretty good at what he does, but conveying depth of story through dialogue, clearly not his forté. I think my biggest criticism of the Mandalorian and Boba Fett is the incredibly limited writing staff, which leads to limited perspectives, and missed opportunities to make the shows more well rounded.

Bo-Katan didn't mention her sister once all season, for example, which would have made for a nicely introspective scene, and we haven't really seen the Children of the Watch be the zealots to The Way™ that they are, outside of their helmet fetish. A missed opportunity for a commentary on the rise of religious extremism in modern society.

Could be that the cancellation of Rangers of the New Republic forced some changes, turning a two season retaking of Mandalore arc into a one season arc, to accommodate the Rangers story kicking off next season.

The sudden departure of Cara Dune probably messed with the story a bit as well.