The official Formula 1 and general motorsport thread for 2019

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PostThe official Formula 1 and general motorsport thread for 2019
by Robbo-92 » Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:40 pm

Hello all, few weeks into 2019 now and some series have already started (Formula E) or are starting soon (WRC this weekend), so I thought I’d make this a general motorsport thread although I daresay F1 will still be its main focus/attraction over the course of the year once it gets going. I’m not 100% sure on car launch dates but think most are mid February (with some teams like Toro Rosso nearly always opting to unveil on the morning of the first test day), so not even a month to wait till we can first see the 2019 cars on track :D

The F1 lineup for the 2019 season

Mercedes: Lewis Hamilton and Valtteri Bottas

Ferrari: Sebastian Vettel and Charles LecLerc

Red Bull: Max Verstappen and Pierre Gasly

Renault: Nico Hulkenberg and Daniel Ricciardo

Haas: Romain Grosjean and Kevin Magnussen

Racing Point Force India: Sergio Perez and Lance Stroll

McLaren: Carlos Sainz Jr and Lando Norris

Toro Rosso: Daniil Kyvat and Alexander Albon

Sauber: Kimi Raikkonen and Antonio Giovinazzi

Williams: George Russel and Robert Kubica

The F1 schedule is as follows

Pre Season Testing,

Test 1, February 18th - 21st
Test 2, February 26th - March 1st

Good news for Sky viewers, they’ll be showing some of testing live (last done in 2013 if I remember correctly).

Both tests are once again being held at the Circuit de Catalunya, lets hope for warmer weather and no snow in 2019 like we had in 2018!

Grand Prix calendar,

Australian Grand Prix, Albert Park, 15th - 17th March
Bahrain Grand Prix, Bahrain International Circuit, March 29th - March 31st
Chinese Grand Prix, Shanghai International Circuit, April 12th - April 14th
Azerbaijan Grand Prix, Baku City Circuit April 26th - April 28th
Spanish Grand Prix, Circuit de Catalunya, May 10th - May 12th
Monaco Grand Prix, Monaco, May 23rd - May 26th
Canadian Grand Prix, Circuit Giles Villeneuve, June 7th - June 9th
French Grand Prix, Paul Ricard, June 21st - June 23rd
Austrian Grand Prix, Red Bull Ring, June 28th - June 30th
British Grand Prix, Silverstone, July 12th - 14th
German Grand Prix, Hockenheimring, July 26th - 28th
Hungarian Grand Prix, Hungaroring, August 2nd - 4th
Belgian Grand Prix, Spa Francorchamps, August 30th - September 1st
Italian Grand Prix, Monza, September 6th - 8th
Singapore Grand Prix, Marina Bay Circuit, September 20th - 22nd
Russian Grand Prix, Sochi Autodrom, September 27th - 29th
Japanese Grand Prix, Suzuka, October 11th - 13th
Mexican Grand Prix, Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez, October 25th - 27th
United States Grand Prix, Circuit of the Americas, November 1st - 3rd
Brazilian Grand Prix, Interlagos, November 15th - 17th
Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, Yas Marina, November 29th to December 1st

As you can see, we have a few complete rookies in Lando Norris, Alexander Albon and Gearge Russel and then we have Antonio Giovinazzi who has completed a few races back in 2017 when he stood in for Pascal Wehrlein. We also get to see the return of Robert Kubica who last raced back in 2010. Sadly this season Channel 4 only have highlights for all the races, barring one which is the British Grand Prix, I imagine this will make viewing figures fall as free to air (live F1 at least) is at a bare minimum in 2019.

So what is everyone predicting for 2019? As much as I want to see Vettel lift a WDC and WCC at Ferrari I just don’t see Mercedes faltering, if they do win the WDC it’ll certainly be Hamilton lifting a 6th WDC rather than Bottas getting his first (unless he finally challenges Hamiltons lead position in the team with a string of strong performances at the start of the season).

I actually think LecLerc will prove a good challenge for Vettel as well, weather he’ll be allowed to fight for the WDC is another question though, Seb may have one more solo crack at it before they let both drivers fight it out if they have a capable car.

There will be a lot of good teammate fights as well, one I’m particularly looking forward to is Hulkenberg vs Ricciardo, Hulkenberg has a very good chance to show just how good he is against Ricciardo, a proven race winner.

Has anyone been watching any other forms of motorsports in the off season? Formula E has recently started up again and I have to say the second race was fantastic. I’m also looking forward to the WEC getting back underway and I try to watch the WRC highlights when I get chance (although sadly that’s not too much), that’s starting back at the end of January in Monaco. Moto GP is also back on March 10th, I tried to watch a bit of this last season but it never really grabbed my attention as much as the 4 wheel alternatives :)

If I’ve missed anything please feel free to post and I’ll edit when I get chance, Think that’s about all for now, so discuss! (If you want, not going to force anyone)

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PostRe: The official Formula 1 and general motorsport thread for 2019
by Jam-Master Jay » Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:03 pm

I'm all for other motorsport being discussed in here. :wub:

I have been enjoying Formula E since they introduced the Gen 2 car and ditched the mid-race car swaps although Attack Mode is another gimmick I could have done without.

Confirmed dates for car reveals so far.

Renault - February 12
Racing Point - February 13
McLaren - February 14
Ferrari - February 15
Sauber - February 18

As much as I hate it, I reckon Hamilton and Mercedes will win the double yet again. I'm most interested in seeing how Leclerc fares at Ferrari and getting to see more of the rookies as I only casually followed F2 last year.

Hopefully McLaren will finally get their house in order now that they've done lots of restructuring and made a few big hires.

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PostRe: The official Formula 1 and general motorsport thread for 2019
by captain red dog » Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:48 pm

Unless Merc significantly drop the ball it should be their season again. Since there are no major regulation changes, Ferrari will need to improve even more than they did between 2017 and 2018 as I believe Hamilton won with a bigger margin. Their main weakness is development, so hopefully the managerial changes can see them rectify that.

It remains to be seen if any pressure from Leclerc on Vettel will hamper them. Vettel doesn't deal well under pressure so I could see that being counter productive. I'd also like to see Renault beat out Red Bull as a bit of justice for Horners behaviour towards them and Danny Ric deserves a good car.

As for McLaren, if they don't make significant progress they might want to look at getting Big Ron back.

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PostRe: The official Formula 1 and general motorsport thread for 2019
by BOR » Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:31 pm

I think it’s a good idea to have general chat about motorsport in this thread.

I’ll wait until Mick Schumacher comes in F1 8-)

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PostRe: The official Formula 1 and general motorsport thread for 2019
by Victor Mildew » Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:37 pm

The best part of the season is approaching, car reveals where you get to see the tricks The teams have come up with.

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PostRe: The official Formula 1 and general motorsport thread for 2019
by Vermilion » Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:42 pm

I'm just grateful C4 have highlights, as otherwise i would not have been able to watch at all (sky is too bloody expensive).

On a separate note...

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/14115 ... e-in-china

Liberty want a second race in China, i didn't think they could attract enough people to one event let alone two.

Ad7 wrote:The best part of the season is approaching, car reveals where you get to see the tricks The teams have come up with.


If it's anything like last year, the only noticeable differences between the cars will be the colour schemes.

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PostRe: The official Formula 1 and general motorsport thread for 2019
by Victor Mildew » Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:46 pm

Nah there's loads of cool details to see, Ted's notebook in testing is brilliant for it, especially development corner :wub:

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PostRe: The official Formula 1 and general motorsport thread for 2019
by Robbo-92 » Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:32 pm

Yeah Ted’s notebook/development corner is really good, especially on the last day of the first test when he gets loads of high res pics up on his laptop and goes through the small details each team have gone for on different areas of their cars :wub:

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PostRe: The official Formula 1 and general motorsport thread for 2019
by Curls » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:31 pm

Will Hamilton wipe the floor with it again? I think he will to be honest.

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PostRe: The official Formula 1 and general motorsport thread for 2019
by floydfreak » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:52 pm

Daytona 24 hours is this weekend with, Alonso, Alex Zanardi, Rubens Barrichello, Montoya all taking part this year.


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PostRe: The official Formula 1 and general motorsport thread for 2019
by Robbo-92 » Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:15 am

Lot of motorsport on this weekend then, WRC in Monaco starting today till Sunday, Formula E on Saturday and Daytona 24 hours as well.

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PostRe: The official Formula 1 and general motorsport thread for 2019
by Jam-Master Jay » Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:37 pm

2 hours to go and Alosno is showing his class in these ridiculous conditions. :wub: :datass:

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PostRe: The official Formula 1 and general motorsport thread for 2019
by Peter Crisp » Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:46 pm

I wonder if they've ever considered a relegation system for teams between F1 and F2?
It could add a bit of spice to the back of the pack battles.

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PostRe: The official Formula 1 and general motorsport thread for 2019
by Robbo-92 » Sun Jan 27, 2019 6:01 pm

Jam-Master Jay wrote:2 hours to go and Alosno is showing his class in these ridiculous conditions. :wub: :datass:


Yeah, just a crying shame he saw out his F1 career (well the first part of it, he might fancy coming back if he can get a top seat or McLaren produce a race winning car) in a massively uncompetitive series of McLaren cars.

Peter Crisp wrote:I wonder if they've ever considered a relegation system for teams between F1 and F2?
It could add a bit of spice to the back of the pack battles.


Never say never but I can never see this happening. Running a F2 team must cost a fair chunk even with the spec car but F1 must be on another level when it comes to finances so even heavily subsidised I don’t see how any of the current F2 teams could compete with any of the F1 teams, we could see an even bigger field spread while for racing purposes we want (and need) a close field.

I won’t lie though, it would add an extra level of tension going into the latter parts of the season and would mean the teams near the rear had to push on development to stop themselves from getting relegated down to F2 for a season.

Only way I could see this working is if a lot of the parts of an F1 car were standardised, so the teams only had to worry about making (or sourcing) a power unit and making their own aerodynamic packages, thus with the (hopefully) impeding cost cap the idea has a lot more merit if the governing body gave newly promoted teams a substantial financial boost for their first season, alongside making F1 a much more cost effective series (if it ever could be considered cost effective) to compete in.

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PostRe: The official Formula 1 and general motorsport thread for 2019
by floydfreak » Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:45 pm

damp wet end to the 24 hours of Daytona. Well done to Alonso and Wayne Taylor Racing.



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PostRe: The official Formula 1 and general motorsport thread for 2019
by Vermilion » Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:57 am

Maldonado won his class eh, nice!

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PostRe: The official Formula 1 and general motorsport thread for 2019
by floydfreak » Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:59 am



pretty much zero visibility

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PostRe: The official Formula 1 and general motorsport thread for 2019
by Robbo-92 » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:53 pm

Vermilion wrote:Maldonado won his class eh, nice!


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PostRe: The official Formula 1 and general motorsport thread for 2019
by Victor Mildew » Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:14 pm

Robbo-92 wrote:
Vermilion wrote:Maldonado won his class eh, nice!


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You can't lose if you take out all the competition

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PostRe: The official Formula 1 and general motorsport thread for 2019
by Vermilion » Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:42 pm

The man deserved a much longer F1 career.


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